posted September 04, 2012 03:00 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
some days when i jog everyone is leaving work and i enjoy watching them, looking at their clothes, their walk, the look on their faces.. regular/ normal life.. i have 6 retro planets and that's how i feel about it like i'm on a different wave.

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posted September 04, 2012 03:34 AM            

my mars is the only personal planet i have retro.

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Mars in the natal chart represents anger, initiative, and desire. Its condition describes how men and women express their masculine energy, and the type of man a woman is attracted to. When natal Mars is retrograde (reversed) the game changes. Its energy is expressed differently from the cultural norm.
If you have Mars retrograde in your chart, it appeared to be moving backwards at the time of your birth. Its energy is internalized. Think about what Mars stands for: moving forward, being aggressive, starting something. This is true no matter what sign it’s in. If there is an internal focus, you’re going to express its energy very differently. You’re rebelling, but it’s an internal rebellion. A common misconception is that Mars retrograde is weak. This is simply not true; its energy is redirected.

Men with Mars Retrograde: Struggling with Masculinity
If you’re a man with Mars retrograde, you’ll likely experience a struggle with the way you express your masculinity. You probably learned early on that you weren’t like the other boys. For example, maybe you weren’t comfortable with competitive sports. As you got older and became aware of your sexuality, expressing your desires was a problem. When should you make the first move? When should you hold back? Mars retrograde is never sure, and sometimes you may have been too aggressive, or not aggressive enough. But this certainly doesn’t mean that your male energy is weakened.
Mikhail Baryshnikov, a famous Russian ballet dancer and choreographer, has Mars retrograde (also in Virgo, although the house position is not known). He used Mars’ internalized energy to produce precise, disciplined (Virgo) athleticism in his own unique way. He expressed his masculine energy through an art form that’s usually associated with women, but most people would agree that his dancing is incredibly powerful.
Mars Retrograde and Suppression
For both sexes, Mars retrograde can mean difficulties expressing anger and assertion. You may suppress everything until it comes out as a passive-aggressive jab, or a (seemingly) unprovoked explosion. For the partner of a Mars retrograde person, this can be mystifying because they have no idea where the hostility is coming from. The key is understanding that direct expression will never be easy. Because you’re banging a different drum than everyone else, it’s not just a matter of learning to be direct. You’ll have to identify the strengths (defined by Mars’ sign) of your Mars retrograde, and work with them. Strategy works better for you than charging forward.
For example, Mars retrograde in Gemini can be expressed through strategic, indirect communication. Taking time to write down your thoughts or anger can reveal some surprising (and unusually effective) insights. Mars retrograde in Cancer gives you more access than most to empathy and protective nurturing. Use your heightened feelings (and passion) to respond to your partner instead of reacting. Mars retrograde in Taurus can make you fiercely determined, especially when it comes to supporting your partner. You may be obsessively focused on gaining (or losing) resources. Leave the future planning and foresight to your partner; you can move mountains if you focus on the here and now.
The house position and planetary aspects Mars makes will give you more information to work with. Also, at some point your natal Mars retrograde will probably turn direct, by progression. Progressed planets show the development of natal potential, and this can help immensely when it comes to expressing your Mars. You’ll still have to deal with the retrograde energy, but you’ll experience a “click” (when it goes direct), and the energy becomes easier to work with.
If you take one thing away from this article, let it be the understanding that natal Mars retrograde equals intensified energy. It’s not compromised; it’s refocused. Admittedly, there are challenges that arise when Yang energy goes Yin, but it’s all part of the process of discovering what this internal rebellion stirs up.

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posted September 04, 2012 03:41 AM            

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"When should you make the first move? When should you hold back? Mars retrograde is never sure, and sometimes you may have been too aggressive, or not aggressive enough."

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^this is pretty true. i always had a problem with when. like a girl once asked me about a moment we apparently had one night where she wanted a kiss. i was like "what moment?! when u were all looking weird and sleepy?" ahahaha! same girl swatted my hand away too a few weeks back. I blame the absinthe i tried that night.

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"You’ll have to identify the strengths (defined by Mars’ sign) of your Mars retrograde, and work with them. Strategy works better for you than charging forward."

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posted September 04, 2012 06:44 AM            

I think once I read here in lindaland that retrograde planets just have a hard time fully expressing themselves.

posted September 04, 2012 07:30 AM            

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.I have mercury retrogade in pisces and most of the time I feel like I am from a different planet,people dont understand what I am saying

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Me too!! Merc rx in pisces in my 8th house.. I have a tendency to wander in conversation. And I've noticed that I end a lot of my explanations/stories/recountings with: "do you know what I mean?" because I'm really not ever sure if I got my true point across.

posted September 04, 2012 07:39 AM            

how does that interpretation feel to you as a whole though?
I agree with RedScorp that it's a little hit and miss. A lot of the things that are attributed to retrograde planets are explainable by other aspects in a natal chart I would bet.

The theory of having difficulties expressing the energies of retrograde planets sounds plausible. As I said before I Have a little trouble being understood when I speak or formulating words on a whim to share with other people (IMO, idk how others really feel about this), but that could just be because of the placement itself in pisces AND my 8th house, and have nothing to do with the retrograde... I wish I could tell the difference.

posted September 04, 2012 07:53 AM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
I have both Mercury and Pluto Retrograde and I feel a little ignorant not knowing what this means seeing as how it's in my own chart.
I guess my question is how is the energy from planets effecting those born during a retrograde? Not just for my planets, but for all?

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Mercury Retro, I have, as well as Saturn, Neptune and Chiron.

I love Merc Retro but I had to come to accept that I learn differently. Info must go deep, but then I retain it deeply. I get glitches in learning such as I can't do mirror images when someone will be teaching me to dance, for example. I can't do mirror images, if someone is showing me something on the guitar. I have to be facing the same direction

However, I love it because it forces deep thinking and it is something that is really special imo

For you Pluto Retro will make you examine your primal feelings before you can deal with them i.e use them, in your life.

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posted September 04, 2012 08:01 AM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
@sand

how does that interpretation feel to you as a whole though?
I agree with RedScorp that it's a little hit and miss. A lot of the things that are attributed to retrograde planets are explainable by other aspects in a natal chart I would bet.

The theory of having difficulties expressing the energies of retrograde planets sounds plausible. As I said before I Have a little trouble being understood when I speak or formulating words on a whim to share with other people (IMO, idk how others really feel about this), but that could just be because of the placement itself in pisces AND my 8th house, and have nothing to do with the retrograde... I wish I could tell the difference.

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i like it. obviously i was able to pick out parts i could relate to more than other articles. love ballet too lol! if actually were into dancing it would be the one i would have picked.

i have merc in aries/ mars in house 1 so the anger expression is not new to me but IMO that's not me angry at all. it would go much deeper than that for me.

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posted September 04, 2012 10:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
What does it mean to have your north node be rx?

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posted September 04, 2012 02:56 PM            

@sand
I actually planned on picking up books on this subject, but at the same time, those books were written doing the same thing I am: gathering experiences/feelings/interpretations of others and using the author's intuition/judgement to decide what factors are caused by retrograde and what factors are caused by planet/house placements. I wasn't trying to belittle the article you posted, I really appreciated the response I was just saying that it seemed like some of the things being attributed to the retrograde planet could be explained by other pieces of the chart

posted September 04, 2012 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
It means that - "you failed to learn your NN life lesson" - in your previous life... it's the same lesson you have right now - might be the 2'nd time you're at it... or, who knows...

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Hmm I don't believe in past lives, myself, but anything Retro makes one go much deeper to learn the lesson, so that makes sense!

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posted September 04, 2012 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
@AmiAnne
Thanks for the feedback! For me with the learning thing it's that I have to personalize it or internalize the lesson/experience for me personally. Like reading for instance: when I was a kid in school I always had a reading/comprehension level WAY higher than anyone else in my class, but if I had to read aloud I struggled to retain any of the information. Like my mouth and brain weren't connected or something lol

@sand
I actually planned on picking up books on this subject, but at the same time, those books were written doing the same thing I am: gathering experiences/feelings/interpretations of others and using the author's intuition/judgement to decide what factors are caused by retrograde and what factors are caused by planet/house placements. I wasn't trying to belittle the article you posted, I really appreciated the response I was just saying that it seemed like some of the things being attributed to the retrograde planet could be explained by other pieces of the chart

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You are very welcome Lionfish
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posted September 04, 2012 04:11 PM            

- most are based on some books anyway - but i prefer the ones that release their interpretations and are interested in feedback - being Astrologers - even use their clients experiences...

From what I understand - a planet in retrograde works inward for the one with such placement - and so far, that reminds me of House 12 which can affect a planetary placement in a similar way - but there might be more that with retrogrades - like "past lives karma" emancipated in current life... personally - i have 5 planets in retrograde (+3 other placement) and from my own experience - i can relate with the "inward perspective" - as for past life karma - that's complicated... i need to hear more stories on that one - and see if i can relate with others from this point of view...

For starters - this article seems interesting: http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/retrograde-planets-lecture-notes - it also comes with some feedback

- wile this source offers more detailed info (even transits): http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/retrogradeplanets.htm#satrx

... and I'd really some feedback from others, it's best way to confirm the accuracy of those articles.

- and here's also a karmic perspective: http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/astrology/lesson5.html - beyond the ones similar to those above...

posted September 04, 2012 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
@AmiAnne
I'm not sure how to relate to the Pluto Rx. Which is odd considering it's almost conjunct my SN and I should be "familiar" with it at least on a psychic level, no? Or could that placement be indicating that I need to examine, accept and move on from my primal needs/desires to be successful/happy in this life? That doesn't sound very fun..And I thought having a taurean midheaven meant that I was supposed to embrace and learn to indulge wants/needs/desires (they aren't "primal" things ruled by taurus though so I guess that would be the difference)? I'm so confused..

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If Pluto conjuncts your SN, you should be comfortable with all things Pluto which are primal emotions and passions.

The Retro is how one "processes" the area of the planet. One must go very deep into the nature of the planet and learn at a very deep level before one can utilize the planet.

So, for Pluto, you would really have to face your primal self, in all it's nooks and crannies and with great depth, in order to be in touch with your primal self. Does that make sense?

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posted September 04, 2012 08:10 PM            

@AmiAnne
Yes that makes perfect sense! Especially mixed with the feedback that I read in the first reference 7thGuardian posted

posted September 04, 2012 08:11 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
My Mercury is Retrograde. Does this mean that I have messed up thinking or I'm ADD/ADHD? lol :P

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Mine is Retro. I don't have ADD but I am high strung as heck. Does that count

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posted September 04, 2012 11:01 PM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
I wasn't trying to belittle the article you posted, I really appreciated the response I was just saying that it seemed like some of the things being attributed to the retrograde planet could be explained by other pieces of the chart

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oh don't worry you can belittle all u want i'm not sensitive lol! kidding i didn't get that vibe from what u said at all. just talking..