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ail221
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posted September 08, 2012 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you consider to be a unconventional relationship personally? What may be unconventional to you may be the norm to others etc ex. Long distance, cross-cultural/IR Relationships, different socio-economic statuses, trans-gender, polygamous, different religions, minor- major age gaps, and different political beliefs.

1)Name what "YOU" consider unconventional personally. Or why none of these are unconventional to you personally because of your environment.
2) Astrological placements that make what you stated unconventional for yourself.

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posted September 08, 2012 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unconventional relationships is Venus-Uranus.

I'm not getting off into that can of worms of what I personally consider unconventional; that will just turn the entire thread into a debate and really I feel like everybody's individual ideas of what an 'unconventional' relationship is, are really astrologically irrelevant.

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posted September 08, 2012 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A can of worms is open here daily, just speak your mind. Uranus touching any luminary add an rebellious or unconventional side to said luminary, that's basic astrology. Just answer the question.

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posted September 08, 2012 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
A can of worms is open here daily, just speak your mind. Uranus touching any luminary add an rebellious or unconventional side to said luminary, that's basic astrology. Just answer the question.

We're talking about relationships specifically, and love is a venus thing; uranus is the unusual. Hence venus-uranus.

And no I'm not going to answer the question in terms of my personal opinions, I'm sticking strictly to astrology and not going off into a tangent that will just lead to people splitting hairs over what is or isn't 'unconventional', especially when coming to a consensus is futile because it's ultimately subjective anyway, and more likely than not that path of conversation will just lead to arguing and hostility.

It's like bringing up sex, politics or religion in a group of random people. You'll just end up with a shouting match at the end. I'm not willing to play that game.

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posted September 08, 2012 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus Conjunct Uranus in Synastry and Venus Sextile Uranus in Composite in the 7th House too. Inter-racial marriage of totally different ethnicities, history and culture, from polar opposite sides of Earth.

I'm a Chinese guy born on a small island nation in South-East Asia, educated in Asia and the UK. She is a Southern girl from small country town in the US who has Anglo-French-Spaniard heritage. We meet in the largest metropolis in the US. We live in New England, which has a culture different from where we both grew up. When it was noon where she was born, it was midnight where I was born. So, it was literally on opposite sides of Earth. When I met her, I was drinking English Earl Grey tea out of a teacup. She was drinking Jasmine tea out of an Asian clay teapot. I spoke with a slight Brit accent She spoke with a Tennesse/Carolinian accent. We were both raised Southern Baptists though. Strange huh.

Married for 19 years. Getting married in 11 weeks is unusual too. Getting married against parents wishes isn't unusual, but flipping the middle finger to four parents is unconventional.

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posted September 08, 2012 08:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1)Name what "YOU" consider unconventional personally. Or why none of these are unconventional to you personally because of your environment.
2) Astrological placements that make what you stated unconventional for yourself.

I don't feel set on anything or any kind of standard really. My boundary would be people falling in love and wanting to marry their animals. If you want a mail order bride - fine. Assuming everything is done legally and both parties are willing!!! That has to be a factor otherwise I won't go for it. However, I have a wide tolerance for all types of relationships that others like having. I don't "get" open relationships or marriages myself but if someone I know had one it isn't like I would picket them.

I grew up with my parents married, and during my later years my dad commuted back and forth from state to state. I grew up with a gay second cousin, and a gay best friend, and straight best friends and others' divorced parents. I'm just used to unconventionality. I feel like what kind of relationships people want are their business, and don't really care one way or another.

When it comes to MY relationship however, I always expect the man to make the move, and approach the topic of relationships. I feel pushy if I do, and I don't feel as wanted. I would never have an open relationship ever. And I hate old men hitting on me or seeing old men with much, much younger women (I think mainly because it reminds me of my own disgust when they hit on me.)

Astrological aspects:

Moon trine Uranus (pretty comfortable, dare I say gravitates towards the unconventional)
Moon trine Neptune (compassion, people like what they gonna like)
Venus in Aries in the 11th
Uranus and Neptune in the 7th house

For ME:

Moon in Taurus
Moon trine Saturn
Moon opp. Pluto
Sun and Venus square Saturn, which I suppose gives me a hint of submissiveness out of self-loathing.

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posted September 08, 2012 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Poly relationships are generally what I see as unconventional, but I'm not against them because in my opinion it's better than dating numerous people at a time and they are unaware of each other. Being fire dominant I am a fan of honesty.

Long distance is not really unconventional. I don't see anything weird about same sex or trans. Different political beliefs and religions is a little strange, I wonder how that would play out in the intimacy, lmao. But why it would strike me as strange is because people who are religious are VERY tied to their religion, and I know many who would NOT marry outside of their religious belief. I have my strongly Christian colleagues in mind. They view any other religion than their own as fundamentally wrong, and I can't see them marrying or even seriously dating a Muslim or Athiest, or even an Agnostic...but maybe more likely the latter. Differing political views may be more workable, now that I think about it.

I love interracial and intercultural relationships. Sometimes age gaps are strange, but mainly the +15 year difference ones. Anything under that I don't bat an eye at.

Moon in Aries
Venus in Leo (opposite Saturn and square Pluto by a wide orb)
Ruler of the 7th in the 9th
Jupiter in the 9th
Sag asc/Gemini dsc

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posted September 08, 2012 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I have Venus Conjunct Uranus in Synastry and Venus Sextile Uranus in Composite in the 7th House too. Inter-racial marriage of totally different ethnicities, history and culture, from polar opposite sides of Earth.

I'm a Chinese guy born on a small island nation in South-East Asia, educated in Asia and the UK. She is a Southern girl from small country town in the US who has Anglo-French-Spaniard heritage. We meet in the largest metropolis in the US. We live in New England, which has a culture different from where we both grew up. When it was noon where she was born, it was midnight where I was born. So, it was literally on opposite sides of Earth. When I met her, I was drinking English Earl Grey tea out of a teacup. She was drinking Jasmine tea out of an Asian clay teapot. I spoke with a slight Brit accent She spoke with a Tennesse/Carolinian accent. We were both raised Southern Baptists though. Strange huh.

Married for 19 years. Getting married in 11 weeks is unusual too. Getting married against parents wishes isn't unusual, but flipping the middle finger to four parents is unconventional.


Nope doesn't sound strange at all to me, it sounds like a cute love story.

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posted September 08, 2012 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bet shaggy and velma had an awkward sexual experience.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I bet shaggy and velma had an awkward sexual experience.

You read my thoughts, EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I bet shaggy and velma had an awkward sexual experience.

Lol

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posted September 08, 2012 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
You read my thoughts, EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!

haha we must be soulmates then or something like that.

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posted September 08, 2012 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
1)Name what "YOU" consider unconventional personally. Or why none of these are unconventional to you personally because of your environment.
2) Astrological placements that make what you stated unconventional for yourself.

I don't feel set on anything or any kind of standard really. My boundary would be people falling in love and wanting to marry their animals. If you want a mail order bride - fine. Assuming everything is done legally and both parties are willing!!! That has to be a factor otherwise I won't go for it. However, I have a wide tolerance for all types of relationships that others like having. I don't "get" open relationships or marriages myself but if someone I know had one it isn't like I would picket them.

I grew up with my parents married, and during my later years my dad commuted back and forth from state to state. I grew up with a gay second cousin, and a gay best friend, and straight best friends and others' divorced parents. I'm just used to unconventionality. I feel like what kind of relationships people want are their business, and don't really care one way or another.

When it comes to MY relationship however, I always expect the man to make the move, and approach the topic of relationships. I feel pushy if I do, and I don't feel as wanted. I would never have an open relationship ever. And I hate old men hitting on me or seeing old men with much, much younger women (I think mainly because it reminds me of my own disgust when they hit on me.)

Astrological aspects:

Moon trine Uranus (pretty comfortable, dare I say gravitates towards the unconventional)
Moon trine Neptune (compassion, people like what they gonna like)
Venus in Aries in the 11th
Uranus and Neptune in the 7th house

For ME:

Moon in Taurus
Moon trine Saturn
Moon opp. Pluto
Sun and Venus square Saturn, which I suppose gives me a hint of submissiveness out of self-loathing.


Yeah animals please don't touch the animals thats kinda odd to me. :/. I don't understand open marriages either but hey for some people it works.

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posted September 08, 2012 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
Poly relationships are generally what I see as unconventional, but I'm not against them because in my opinion it's better than dating numerous people at a time and they are unaware of each other. Being fire dominant I am a fan of honesty.

Long distance is not really unconventional. I don't see anything weird about same sex or trans. Different political beliefs and religions is a little strange, I wonder how that would play out in the intimacy, lmao. But why it would strike me as strange is because people who are religious are VERY tied to their religion, and I know many who would NOT marry outside of their religious belief. I have my strongly Christian colleagues in mind. They view any other religion than their own as fundamentally wrong, and I can't see them marrying or even seriously dating a Muslim or Athiest, or even an Agnostic...but maybe more likely the latter. Differing political views may be more workable, now that I think about it.

I love interracial and intercultural relationships. Sometimes age gaps are strange, but mainly the +15 year difference ones. Anything under that I don't bat an eye at.

Moon in Aries
Venus in Leo (opposite Saturn and square Pluto by a wide orb)
Ruler of the 7th in the 9th
Jupiter in the 9th
Sag asc/Gemini dsc


Interestingly sometimes different religions work in my friend's parents case; Her parents, one Bengali, muslim democrat and her husband Jewish ethnic ties & Religious ties and a republican.
My parents Christian and Muslim.

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posted September 08, 2012 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
Interestingly sometimes different religions work in my friend's parents case; Her parents, one Bengali, muslim democrat and her husband Jewish ethnic ties & Religious ties and a republican.
My parents Christian and Muslim.

Wow, that's interesting...I've never experienced that before where I'm from but it seems in those examples they make it work. I do know a democrat and republican couple, though. I just never heard of a inter-religious marriage unless one person had to switch over. Cool cool.

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posted September 08, 2012 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
his venus conjuncts my uranus.

he doesn't like any labels like relationship, dating, seeing each other, etc.

okay

well that gets awkward sometimes, explaining my situation

people probably think I'm with some tool. But he treats me so right.

He says he is against marriage too. I wonder why, but I feel like it's too soon to ask. And I might freak him out. ha

But I'm just wondering, cause he is very smart and has some interesting opinions.

I wonder if it has anything to do with his parents divorcing. And his ex girl getting an abortion and not telling him until after.

he says how he feels putting a label on it ruins it.

And he can't stand it when girls go "so does this mean we are bf and gf now?"

I don't do that.

Honestly after what I've been though. I'm fine with not rushing and being all official right away, but forever? I don't know...time will tell if I will always be happy that way.

Sometimes I wonder what I'm doing, but it feels right and stable.

I'd say that we have been "anti labeling" for almost half a year now.

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posted September 08, 2012 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An unconventional relationship to my standards is an open relationship or dating more than one person at once.

I have Venus opposite Saturn.... And I'm triple fixed with Leo/Taurus/Scorpio so that's probably why I wanted full commitment when dating

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I should also add I get sketchy and afraid with formalities in dating. I like "casual commitment." where it's a friendship and then you just kind of fall into a relationship, but of course you're madly in love too.

My Venus doesn't make any aspects to Uranus in the 7th house though. My Sun and Venus are in the 11th, both aspecting Mars in Gemini in the 12th though.

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posted September 08, 2012 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pisces moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are some kinds of relationships I wouldn't be involved with myself but as long as everyone is a consenting adult, I say more power.

I'd say the top of my list of unconventional would be commitments to multiple partners. I but could never share like that. Hell no. It's me or the door, know what I mean? But it works for some people and like I said, more power to them.

Virgo is the sixth house cusp. Venus is Libra in the sixth house
Uranus is Virgo in the sixth house-they conjunct. Uranus also conjuncts pluto. Opposes moon, trine midheaven and sextile neptune.

I don't know if this has anything to do with anything but my fifth house has leo on the cusp and mars is in leo there. Then the virgo sun and jupiter conjunct also in the house

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posted September 09, 2012 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CRCRINCON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have what some would call an unconvetional marriage for a few reasons. Gonna be a long post! lol

I am white (I was born and raised in US) but my mom is from England and I am first generation to the US. My husband is Mexican. He was born here but is First generation to US. Our cultural upbringings were very different let alone the interracial component. But we make it work and are very very much inlove after 8 years. We are truly soulmates.

BUT, I was married once before to who I will call M when I first met my now husband who I will call T. I was married to M for just 6 months as he was physially and emotionally abusive. I got out as soon as I realzied he was abusive. Anyway, I met T while we both were working as counselors at a high school working with at risk youth. There was an immediate romance and chemistry between us. Neither of us acted on it since I was married. Nor did we even mention what we were feeling until after we finally started dated and talked about all the feelings that had been going on. Okay so I felt horrible guilt after I met T because I couldn't stop thinking about him. I just kept thinking it was because I was in this aweful marriage. However, the moment I left M, T and I became close friends and it quickly turned romantic and it never stopped!

But all of this was quite a shock for both of us. My ASC in Cap and I have Saturn in the 7th. So having feelings so quickly like I did for T was overwhelming. It was electric, forbidden, and everything I had ever dreamed of. Just his physical appearance alone was what I had alwayed envisioned as my "ideal." And just being in his presence was overwhelming. And this was all before we even started dating. When we finally did start to date we kept it secret as we didn't want my ex to harass me anymore than he already had been. This is a very unconventional way to start to have feelings for someone and to start dating...secretive, while still legally married (filed papers but that takes 6months for fomalize)

To make this all more interesting for nearly two years, T did not believe in marriage and told me he would only be with me in a committed relationship (he has Venus Square Uranus). He said, there would be no marriage. But eventually something happened to him (Saturn in 4th conjunct my Saturn in 7th??? Or that Taurus Moon???) and of course changed and we are now married and have been married for going on 4 year. Together 8.

So you have for some unconventional ways:
-Interracial and intercultural marraige
-forbidden and secretive beginning to relationship
-He didn't believe in marriage initially

I have:
Sun Virgo/Venus 8th. My Sun is Parallel Uranus (Acts as a conjunction). Uranus is conjunct MC.
Sun square my Sag Neptune in the 11th.
In my 9th I have Mercury, Mars (Virgo) and Libra (uranus,Pluto). Mercury and Mars are opposed to Jupiter in the 2nd house.
I have Gemini in both 5/6th house.
Moon in Aquarius (1st) sextile Neptune (11th), trine Pluto (in 9th).

My husband T: Sun in Gemini in 3rd opposed to his Neptune in 9th in Sag. Jupiter in 1st Trine his Neptune. 7th house is Uranus and Pluto. He also has Uranus Sqaure Venus. Venus trine Neptune.

Our synastry:
His Sun trine Uranus
Mercury trine Uranus
Venus Square Uranus
Jupiter Opposed to Uranus
Saturn Square Uranus
Neptune Semi Square Uranus
Uranus Opposed to chiron
MC sextile Uranus

My moon Square Uranus
Venus quintile Uranus
Chiron opposed to Uranus
ASC quintile Uranus
MC conjunct Uranus
Jupiter Semi square Uranus

Composite:
Sun Square Uranus
Moon inconjunct Uranus
Mars trine Uranus
ASC trine Uranus
Of course (Chiron opposed Uranus)

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posted September 09, 2012 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unconventional to me is wide age gaps between two people, staying with someone for monetary support and getting married haha just kidding...

Poly-amory weirds me out. When I'm in a relationship I only have eyes for that person. I get the appeal of poly-amory but someone always gets hurt in those situations.

I may have Venus in Gemini opposite Sagittarius Uranus, but I'd say I'm pretty conventional in that I'm straight and into monogamous relationships.

But I'm not getting married until same-sex marriage is legal in this country.

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posted September 09, 2012 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ONLY relationships I see unconventional :

1.incestuous (extremely appalling and horrid)
2.homosexual.


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posted September 09, 2012 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
- this for example: Unconventional Relationship

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posted September 09, 2012 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I have Venus Conjunct Uranus in Synastry and Venus Sextile Uranus in Composite in the 7th House too. Inter-racial marriage of totally different ethnicities, history and culture, from polar opposite sides of Earth.

I'm a Chinese guy born on a small island nation in South-East Asia, educated in Asia and the UK. She is a Southern girl from small country town in the US who has Anglo-French-Spaniard heritage. We meet in the largest metropolis in the US. We live in New England, which has a culture different from where we both grew up. When it was noon where she was born, it was midnight where I was born. So, it was literally on opposite sides of Earth. When I met her, I was drinking English Earl Grey tea out of a teacup. She was drinking Jasmine tea out of an Asian clay teapot. I spoke with a slight Brit accent She spoke with a Tennesse/Carolinian accent. We were both raised Southern Baptists though. Strange huh.

Married for 19 years. Getting married in 11 weeks is unusual too. Getting married against parents wishes isn't unusual, but flipping the middle finger to four parents is unconventional.


Your love story would make a great movie, I think

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posted September 09, 2012 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
Poly relationships are generally what I see as unconventional, but I'm not against them because in my opinion it's better than dating numerous people at a time and they are unaware of each other. Being fire dominant I am a fan of honesty.

Long distance is not really unconventional. I don't see anything weird about same sex or trans. Different political beliefs and religions is a little strange, I wonder how that would play out in the intimacy, lmao. But why it would strike me as strange is because people who are religious are VERY tied to their religion, and I know many who would NOT marry outside of their religious belief. I have my strongly Christian colleagues in mind. They view any other religion than their own as fundamentally wrong, and I can't see them marrying or even seriously dating a Muslim or Athiest, or even an Agnostic...but maybe more likely the latter. Differing political views may be more workable, now that I think about it.

I love interracial and intercultural relationships. Sometimes age gaps are strange, but mainly the +15 year difference ones. Anything under that I don't bat an eye at.

Moon in Aries
Venus in Leo (opposite Saturn and square Pluto by a wide orb)
Ruler of the 7th in the 9th
Jupiter in the 9th
Sag asc/Gemini dsc


I personally would not date certain religions, but it isn't because they are not of my same faith that I would not date them.

I would not date some religions because our values are so incompatible that it would be hard to build and sustain a happy, life-long marriage with those differences. I feel the same way about certain political views.

There are many denominations even within Christianity that I would not date.

On top of that, some religions do not allow intermarriage, and won't perform the ceremony within a religious setting, so in those cases, it's more a matter of 'cannot' than 'would not'.

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