posted September 09, 2012 02:21 PM            

--polyamory and "open" relationships (I am against them and believe in monogamy)

--same-sex relationships aren't conventional, but I have no problem with them at all and believe that same-sex couples should be able to marry

--not going to get into non-consensual relationships, as (a) I'll get too angry and (b) they disgust me too much

--age gap relationships are somewhat non-conventional, though it's fairly common for an older man to be with a younger woman

as for what I think of that, for me it depends on the integrity and intentions of the couple, as well as how big the gap is and the age/maturity of the younger person (I think it better when the younger person is at least 30, 25 at the bare minimum)

I don't get why people have a problem with them, to be honest, as long as both really love each other, no one is taking advantage of the other, both have good intentions, etc.

posted September 09, 2012 04:35 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
- this for example: [b]Unconventional Relationship
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posted September 09, 2012 07:43 PM            

The institution of marriage acting as a stand-in for legal prostitution. Or any relationship where a partner trades sexual favors under the guise of 'love' in return for financial reward. I don't consider any of the examples you stated as unconventional, I guess because I don't see them as very big bridges to cross if the two are in love.

2) Astrological placements that make what you stated unconventional for yourself.

posted September 09, 2012 07:57 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Your love story would make a great movie, I think

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Platero,

You are fully welcomed to find me on FB if you like. You'll see a ton of photos. You know my name, and I don't know yours, so it's much easier for you to find me.

posted September 09, 2012 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
1)Name what "YOU" consider unconventional personally. Or why none of these are unconventional to you personally because of your environment.

The institution of marriage acting as a stand-in for legal prostitution. Or any relationship where a partner trades sexual favors under the guise of 'love' in return for financial reward. I don't consider any of the examples you stated as unconventional, I guess because I don't see them as very big bridges to cross if the two are in love.

2) Astrological placements that make what you stated unconventional for yourself.

Venus in Capricorn? Responsible in relationships, etc. I have much more respect for outright hookers (legit transaction) than for housewives. I can also understand the male argument for not wanting to get married; they see it too and some are saying "I'm done"; so they're screwing around and that's the end of it.

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posted September 10, 2012 01:20 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
As for unconventional:

--same-sex relationships

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i know it's quite common but i think this is what is still unconventional for me

posted September 10, 2012 01:26 AM            

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Originally posted by ShadowLeo:
I meant grandmothers in general, not yours and mine, in particular.

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our poor grandmothers (which were all in that situation)

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Mine are included here ^ methinks (!) under "all."

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And, yes, back in the day there were a lot more housewives than now

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posted September 10, 2012 09:04 AM            

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Originally posted by ShadowLeo:
Ooooh, but your grandmothers are included in there just like I am included in the "worse than hookers" category (no matter that I have 2 little kids that were never left with babysitters or relatives or put in daycare, I cook every day, clean, do everything around the house - including shoveling the snow in the winter and other stuff men usually do - while my husband does nothing but go to work and has days off and vacations that I never have, since a mother's job never ends until the kids grow up; meanwhile, I'm not a big spender, I do my own nails/hair and barely buy any clothes ever - so I guess I can be considered worse than a cheap hooker, smh). Or you're the only one who can generalise? LOL
The level of disrespect, rudeness and immaturity on this forum is staggering, and even coming from moderators. Don't bother reporting me, I've already asked for my account to be deleted, I liked this forum a lot more when I was just bumping into it occasionaly, while searching for info.

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To be fair, though, moms who have kids in daycare or babysitters aren't bad moms. Some of them have to work to make ends meet. Some are single parents, or else have a partner far away (like in the military, for example). Others honestly enjoy working and the self-confidence it gives them, as well as the job itself if it's a passion of theirs, and because it makes them feel happy and fulfilled. Others want to keep their skills updated so that they can always be independent and self-sufficient should something happen to their partner. Still others may simply need a break from the stresses of family life. Just because a parent doesn't stay home doesn't mean that they don't love their kids.

I also don't consider it bad if the working parent doesn't do as much of the housework, because (a) he's not the one at home and (b) his job keeps the family afloat--without that job, unless someone is independently wealthy, the family couldn't survive. Some jobs, too, are very stressful, and even less-stressful jobs can still be tiring/have some stress. So, I do think that it's only fair if one person stays at home and the other works that the person at home does more of the housework, since they're there. That's not to say that this gives the working one the carte blanche to be a total slob, but my point is that they aren't lazy or selfish for working--they keep the family financially secure, and that takes as much out of them as staying at home takes out of the non-working partner. Plus, they would have the anxiety and burden on their shoulders of having to worry about losing their job and subsequently losing everything the family has, so they likely feel a lot of pressure to do well at work, which also is on top of any work stress. They may have a less interactive role in the family, but their role is also very important in keeping the family afloat and surviving, even if it means that they aren't home as much as the non-working parent.

And, too, there are also women who choose to both work and stay at home (i.e., women who stay at home for a few years and then go back when the kids are older, or else work from home).

Fortunately, there are many more choices today than in the past for women, and women today have more of a say in their lives than did women in the past.

I don't mean to personally attack you or anything, but I just wanted to be fair and point out the other side, and offer some insight into another point of view. I hope that I haven't made you feel as you described feeling in that earlier post about not feeling comfortable here, as that isn't my intent. I do hope that you'll give LL another chance.

posted September 10, 2012 10:00 AM            

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What do you consider to be a unconventional relationship personally? What may be unconventional to you may be the norm to others etc ex. Long distance, cross-cultural/IR Relationships, different socio-economic statuses, trans-gender, polygamous, different religions, minor- major age gaps, and different political beliefs.

1)Name what "YOU" consider unconventional personally. Or why none of these are unconventional to you personally because of your environment.
2) Astrological placements that make what you stated unconventional for yourself.

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1) almost of my ex- and my bf are not from the same country but I think this is "normal" .
2) I have venus square uranus, 7th House ruler is Neptune , in 3rd House.

posted September 10, 2012 10:53 AM            

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Originally posted by ShadowLeo:
Ooooh, but your grandmothers are included in there just like I am included in the "worse than hookers" category (no matter that I have 2 little kids that were never left with babysitters or relatives or put in daycare, I cook every day, clean, do everything around the house - including shoveling the snow in the winter and other stuff men usually do - while my husband does nothing but go to work and has days off and vacations that I never have, since a mother's job never ends until the kids grow up; meanwhile, I'm not a big spender, I do my own nails/hair and barely buy any clothes ever - so I guess I can be considered worse than a cheap hooker, smh). Or you're the only one who can generalise? LOL
The level of disrespect, rudeness and immaturity on this forum is staggering, and even coming from moderators. Don't bother reporting me, I've already asked for my account to be deleted, I liked this forum a lot more when I was just bumping into it occasionaly, while searching for info.

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posted September 10, 2012 11:44 AM            

Scorpio rising
Aquarius decan of gemini
mars opposition uranus
venus opposition uranus for me.

posted September 15, 2012 12:49 AM            

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Originally posted by ShadowLeo:
I've said "our grandmothers" talking about an entire generation (which even you agreed that it consisted much more of housewives than the generations today) and you took it personally

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Next time don't use "all" and I won't have to bother.

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I'm not trying to change your mind at all, judging by how judgemental (pardon the redundancy) you are towards people whose choices/lifestyles don't resonate with yours

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all I want is to get the heck outta here as soon as possible!

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posted March 12, 2019 09:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow:
I have a strong desire to have kids with different women, they can be black or white but lots of kids! If i am successful then this behavior is unconventional, this kind of personal cogitation about this liking itself is abberant. So where could this have arisen from?......it could be due to many effects from the personal placements

Scorpio rising
Aquarius decan of gemini
mars opposition uranus
venus opposition uranus for me.

All kinds of small squeakies!

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posted March 12, 2019 09:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Sag moon, uranus 9th and venus-neptuner.
Highly unconventional would be categorized polygamous, that's bcuz I'm not exposed to it often. Everything else totally depends on the individual. Live & let live.

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posted March 13, 2019 07:47 AM            

No one of the 3 wanted something like that actually but due to mental, emotional and spiritual compabillity none of us could end it (them being highly Saturnian lol). Even Aquarians when I tell them about it think I'm crazy/weirdo (that's probably why they like me lol). I've never heard of anyone having these kind of relationships (my shortest being a 1.5 years and longest 2.5 years).

Someone say it's immature but I actually find it the most genuine and mature compared to having sex which means nothing to most people these days anyway.

I never saw long distant/different ethnicities/color/religion/status relationships as something unconventional but I think people in my country are highly racists. To me the most unbelievable is the racism with black people. I won't ever be able to see black people like some "different" kind of people from the rest of us. I understand the difficulties which may come with different statous/religions etc but skin color doesn't show any difference between 2 people other than the skin color which is absolutely superficial.

• I don't think of anything as really unconvetional now that I'm thinking about it. Except of the kind of asexual relationships just because I can't find them.
At this point I won't be surpised even if someones wants to marry an animal or even an object.

One thing I couldn't ever be able to do is polyamorous relationship.
I personally believe that someone doesn't love you (at least not enough for me personally) when he/she wants that kind of relationship. Faithfullness is something I will give and I deserve to get back otherwise I will end the relationship no matter what.

However when I was super attracted to a man sexually, mentally and spiritually (not emotionally enough though) I didn't care about him having others. So with someone like him I could have a polyamorous relationship but I would never enter a relationship with someone I didn't have feelings for. I don't even see the reason. Which gets me back to the "if someone really loves you he doesn't want this kind of relationship".
I don't find it unconventional, I'm just saying that I couldn't be in such a relationship with someone I love.

I have:

• Uranus, Neptune, North Node conjuct 7th H all in Cap
• Saturn (ruler of the 7th H) in Aquarius in 8th H.
• Pluto Scorpio in 5th H square Venus, Mars and Jup.