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Ami Anne
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posted September 09, 2012 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am fascinated by the Angles (ASC, IC, DSC and MC)

I KNOW that no part of the chart can be taken separately, and it is an artificial way to deal with the chart, but we must for learning purposes.

Hence, I want to pose some things about the Angles, for discussion.

We did a thread on the DSC, which seems to be the traits we admire in a partner(others) but not the sign to which you are attracted, per se(often)

So, with the IC, was that the feeling of your childhood home and the MC is how you face the world?

I know we have had this discussion before, often started by me

However, I think this subject has endless fascination, so here it is, again, for all who care to comment.

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Dreaming111
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posted September 09, 2012 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, what do you think of Venus sextile someone's Ascendant?

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Ami Anne
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posted September 09, 2012 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In natal or synastry?

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posted September 09, 2012 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GirlinSeattle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would also like to add that I'm fascinated with the angles. Is the Midheaven more of a public image versus the IC, a private image?

Also, what do you guys think of the interaction between two individual natal charts that have focused planets in opposite angles? For example, one natal chart has planets concentrated near the IC and the other natal chart concentrated near the MC interacting with the other? This goes the same for ASC/DSC. Would these two tend to do a balancing act?

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posted September 09, 2012 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
In natal or synastry?


Synastry

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Ami Anne
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posted September 09, 2012 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They would find each other to be each others "type" imo

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posted September 09, 2012 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am fascinated by the Angles (ASC, IC, DSC and MC)

I KNOW that no part of the chart can be taken separately, and it is an artificial way to deal with the chart, but we must for learning purposes.

Hence, I want to pose some things about the Angles, for discussion.

We did a thread on the DSC, which seems to be the traits we admire in a partner(others) but not the sign to which you are attracted, per se(often)

So, with the IC, was that the feeling of your childhood home and the MC is how you face the world?

I know we have had this discussion before, often started by me

However, I think this subject has endless fascination, so here it is, again, for all who care to comment.



The ascendant is the face you present in the world. The MC is the career.

IC is the home and the 'roots' so to speak.

Also it isn't necessarily true that you have a thing for the sign on your descendant OR the traits attributed to it, as you've said. My descendant is Leo and I don't like Leo guys or men who are Leonine in any way.

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posted September 09, 2012 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Synastry

Positive, but minor - not enough to write home about.

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posted September 09, 2012 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in Aries conjunct the IC. This seems like a very powerful point in my chart. I feel like since I was a child I've always gone with the beat of my own drum.

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posted September 09, 2012 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about someone's Moon conjunct the IC in synastry? Since the IC is associated with the 4th house, how would that play out?

Also, what about in synastry angle conjuncts. In any combination? I did read in a Liz Greene book that when a planet hits an angle, it *fills* that particular angle. But what if it's angle to angle then?

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posted September 09, 2012 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
What about someone's Moon conjunct the IC in synastry? Since the IC is associated with the 4th house, how would that play out?

Also, what about in synastry angle conjuncts. In any combination? I did read in a Liz Greene book that when a planet hits an angle, it *fills* that particular angle. But what if it's angle to angle then?



Angles are very personal points to each person, in the natal chart. If someone touches your angle, they come in "close" to you. You feel it. They do, too.

Angle to Angle is the same as far as a feeling of familiarity.

If someone's moon hit your IC, you would feel very close to their deepest heart( moon). They would feel close to your most vulnerable angle, the IC, as it represents your childhood self i.e. your inner child, perhaps.

What do you all think?

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posted September 09, 2012 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My DC is in Sagittarius.
The ones I know yeah they can be attractive. And have very interesting things to say and interesting opinions. Though, total know it all at times! haha The ones I know are not the settling down type. So I end up thinking of them as a friend and nothing more, cause I enjoy their company.

I notice too. Whenever I see a girl and get those 'I must become her friend' voice in my head they are usually a Sagittarius or something in sag.

The guy I'm with has nothing in Sag, but my Juno is in Scorpio and he has a lot of that going on.

My guy has his DC in Taurus. I wonder how he could possibly like me, when his Juno is in Libra, and I have nothing there.
But my Mercury is in Taurus one degree away from his DC.

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posted September 09, 2012 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump!

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Dreaming111
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posted September 09, 2012 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I had this scenario:

My Mc conjunct his Asc
My Asc conjunct his IC
My Ic conjunct his Dsc
My Dsc conjunct his MC

What do you guys think?

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Ami Anne
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posted September 09, 2012 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dreaming111:

I had this scenario:

My Mc conjunct his Asc
My Asc conjunct his IC
My Ic conjunct his Dsc
My Dsc conjunct his MC

What do you guys think?



You felt super close to each other! xx

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posted September 09, 2012 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was my first time feeling that close to someone, so I'm not sure if this was the norm or not. But it definitely wasn't stable nor strong enough to keep us together. I used to think that angles were especially important but I guess not. I'm now leaning more toward the transit effects on natal charts and progressed synastry. Maybe that's where it lies.

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posted September 10, 2012 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
It was my first time feeling that close to someone, so I'm not sure if this was the norm or not. But it definitely wasn't stable nor strong enough to keep us together. I used to think that angles were especially important but I guess not. I'm now leaning more toward the transit effects on natal charts and progressed synastry. Maybe that's where it lies.


Yes, that feeling of real closeness is from the angles, imo
However, of course, the chart has many facets, so one must look at the whole chart, always

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posted September 17, 2012 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, that feeling of real closeness is from the angles, imo
However, of course, the chart has many facets, so one must look at the whole chart, always


That's very true.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 17, 2012 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, one natal chart takes me 5 days to do. That is why I really can do just one per week, tops. The chart is such an incredibly complex entity.

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posted September 17, 2012 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asc-Taurus
DSC-Scorpio
IC- Leo
MC- Aquarius

IC- Leo, at home my relationship with my mother was literally like a mama lion with her lion cub either being carried in her mouth or trailing behind her. She was always a very strong woman, unabashedly confidant it doesn't even occur to her in any shape or form to restrain her ego in order to make other people feel secure or comfortable with their own weaknesses. Because of this she's taught me to never be intimidated by people with power or influence. More often as a child I have been lectured about learning to trust me gut and to be more self-assured and independent. Another part of my childhood revolves around a focus in creative expression,music or art, entering art shows, taking art classes, etc. as a way of expressing my emotions without physically verbalizing them, my mercury in leo has a tenacity of being miss-understood.

MC- Aquarius, how the world sees me sure. Unconventional in the sense that I hate routines within work, and I am never satisfied with the status quota in my environment. Lastly I am still trying to figure mine out.

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posted September 17, 2012 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like planets elevated above the IC, either close to the MC from the 9th, on the MC or close to the MC from the 10th are what we could not as easily express in childhood... our it's what we reach for as we grow older, what we want to show others versus hide and keep to ourselves. The opposite of Cancer is Capricorn, the sign of practicality and production. We want to WORK on these planets, shape them, present them at their best. We want to display these planets and will inevitably display them as we work with them in the outside world.

Cancer, the IC, begs us to keep things secluded, safe and private... if we have our Moon in the 4th, we do not involve our emotions and deep rooted, Cancerian feelings of home and the heart out for the world. We do all we can to shelter it and keep it to ourselves. Cancer is the crab and the crab has a shell in which it hides. 4th house planets tend to be deeply rooted and not for purposes in the world of practicality, travels, our professions and worldly achievements.

I have no 4th house planets. I do not have anything to hide from the world. I have the Moon close to my MC from the 9th w/ Chiron and the Sun close to the MC from the 10th. My Sun-Moon MP is my MC. I feel deeply and strongly about making a difference in society through poetry, astrology, my writing and my art. I feel these gifts MUST be shared with the world and are not appreciated enough at home. I also have a personal theory that planets elevated near, or on the MC are what we feel were not as appreciated at home, not as vital at home or in the childhood.... it would make sense in my case. I always felt like people did like my artistic talent, and my writing, but were so superficial about it. I also felt like no one ever stood my heart [my Moon] and the true depth of my feelings, so I want to share that with the world.

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