posted September 11, 2012 10:49 AM            

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When I express those emotions in the only way I know how - animatedly, breathlessly, with lots of passion, I get the "chill out" comment.

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Aii I hate getting such a comment.
Maybe Im fixed enough to often see it as a result of a robotized society in which people conditioned to wipe human emotions off as if they're just falling out of nowhere. It feels as an escape for the confrontation if we just need to press that button in our brain to stop.

And yes, the only one who could handle me was also a Scorp-Sun/Venus/Mercury and that's about 20 years ago (my longest relationship)

Although I was glad we broke up I couldn't help comparing him to any guy after for years.
Well I was used to let's say the *confrontation* which isn't much of a problem for scorp.

posted September 11, 2012 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:

I get that all the time--that I'm "too intense".

I have to I have to constantly bury my expressiveness and be a perfect little Stepford robot because people refuse to face their emotions and deal with intensity. I resent it, highly.

I have Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio, in the 12th. Also have an 8th house moon, and a grand trine in water.

FML.

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Venus Conjunct Pluto in Scorpio. My IV house. Very few people have seen it. I would say its tough for me. If you think about something of pure emotion with the energy of the sun and compact it into a much smaller space. When it even trickles through it is blinding. People don't want to see that side of me.

posted September 11, 2012 03:49 PM            

"The problem is that intensity is what makes me feel alive. Why would anyone want to live any other way? People tell me that I need to chill. I say: Why not live, burn, feel, express, desire?"

posted September 11, 2012 04:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Yin:
The problem is that intensity is what makes me feel alive. Why would anyone want to live any other way? People tell me that I need to chill. I say: Why not live, burn, feel, express, desire?

Hence my original question: Who can handle this? Plutonians only? Why is it so unbearable to be intense?

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posted September 14, 2012 12:18 PM            

Actually I am really fearing for the upcoming Saturn-square to my Moon (on 17 Aquarius). It is so strange, I can take any Pluto-square or conjunction (Haven´t experienced the opposition) - as a matter of fact the time when Tr Pluto was squaring my Moon was one of the most intense and yet upbeat, carefree and cheerful periods (I do think this had to do more with Tr Uranus on my Venus and Tr Jupiter opposing my Venus though. lol).

Anyway, really, I gladly take any Pluto or Uranus transit (Tr Uranus squaring my Sun, while pr Sun was in Aquarius squaring my natal Uranus was a BLAST. I Had the time of my life! Tr Uranus conjunct Moon was scary at first, but once I was risking the leap of faith, it was really great), but please please please spare me these Saturn -transits! Those Saturn-transits to Venus are okay, I never experience them as bad as others (but my Venus is in Capricorn).
But Saturn transits to Moon, Sun/Mercury or even worse Neptune/NN (including ASC and Jupiter) were just so catastrophic.
I hate `em, hate `em, hate `em. (spoken in "Anna Christie"-voice).

Yeah I know how important they are for growing up and growing and growing, but they are NO fun, they also scare the crap out of me.

"So, Pluto always stands by me, helping me with the passion but when I try to express my very strong current Saturn transit, I scare people off. (Doesn't help that Saturn is strong in my chart as well.)"
It is the very "All-or-nothing" vibe that is especially strong if you have Pluto and Saturn coupled with each other. Saturn is focused and determined, and Pluto is very "Black or white". People are scared by this, because it is like there are no other options left. Either you are my friend or my fiend. There is not much middle ground. (and if you`re not my friend, you`ve got no place in my life anymore).
At least that is what people sense about this.

Of course it also means that you can be totally devoted, submersed in something or someone.
All or nothing. Heaven or hell. Life or death.
Nothing lukewarm. Nothing in between.

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I think only people with a lot of confidence, faith and the courage to plunge into the depth of their own souls can really handle that.
If someone`s afraid of the shadows Saturn/Pluto is not for them.

On the other hand sugarcoated-candy-pink-fluff romance probably definitely is not made for you.

posted September 14, 2012 04:06 PM            

Mars in the 8th. These people are sexually and emotionally intense. ESPECIALLY if Mars is already in a water sign, Scorpio itself or Cancer or Pisces. Cancer is the worst since it makes the sex drive move with the tides, e.g., the emotional nature, and for more emotionally balanced people or aloof people such a sex drive can be confusing and bizarre, or just too 'weepy'. But despite this, any 8H Mars person is going to carry some serious big time sensuality, and sexual intensity. They are seductive and know how to be without shame. You can also say 8H Venus but I feel that since Mars is our actual sexuality, the package that Venus is selling, its twice as important.

Venus-Pluto and Scorpio Venus. Do we need an explanation for this one? These people are so sexually intense, obsessive, bittersweet, siren-seductive and can also be ashamed of how it comes out so suddenly. But they are the most sexual Venus placement but also the most easily ashamed of this sexuality, confused by it or controlling with it.

Mars-Uranus has an electric and surprising sexuality. These people depending on the placements of the planets and other aspects, can like sexual surprises or be sexually intense and surprising to their partner.

posted September 14, 2012 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
hmmm! how do you pursue someone you are interested in considering you have your ven sq sat?

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I go full force ahead with pursuing as if I were the guy. Not sure it's a good strategy, LOL.

posted September 14, 2012 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
Im sorry for asking so many questions but do you tend to push your object of affection away, if so what makes you feel comfortable in their presence?

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No, I don't push them away. I pursue them. LOL. But I think that's my Mars talking.

I have body image issues but am never afraid to go after the objects of my affection.

Compliments usually work wonders for my comfort level.

posted September 15, 2012 09:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Yin:
In all of my relationships, I've always been accused of being "too intense". What aspects in the chart could indicate that?
In the chart, where my asc is at the degree as time remembered by my mom, I have 3 planets and my NN in the 8th house.
In my rectified chart, I have a Sco MC.
Which one is more likely to contribute to the intensity?
Are there aspects in one's chart who makes that person intense? I'm often told that "I don't miss anything" Is that Pluto? Saturn?

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My cousin is pretty intense in relationships she has Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio

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Sun in Virgo conjunct Venus ( 11th House )
Moon in Libra
Rising sign Libra

Honesty is Confidence - Hoodie Allen

posted September 15, 2012 09:07 AM            

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Sun in Virgo conjunct Venus ( 11th House )
Moon in Libra
Rising sign Libra

Honesty is Confidence - Hoodie Allen