posted September 15, 2012 10:38 AM            

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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
It's cleaner there.

There aren't germs on the rails in the house unless we've put em there, ourselves. Our bathroom's are personalized and clean, we cook our own food so there's no surprise hair or spit in our meals. We get to decide the amt of fat and oil we use. No one there with a crazy aura field spewing their junk into our atmosphere. Our air is contained and sealed., there are no car fumes or bad breath blasting their gunk down our nostrils.... The question is: "why not?"

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My bfriend would NEVER let me cook for him, tho born and bread in the midwest, me as he and he craved some home cooking food, and I am a darn good cook... he stated he didnt eat food others cooked...but he LIVED on McDonalds, etc....(and still does now that he is home with his mama)

In my experience, alot with both, Virgo men and Virgo women are very different, why I dont post on Pisces male threads, cause I am Pisces female and I dont really get the boy kind of fish

Ofcourse there is a basic quality, if you will, a non gender description of Virgo, but Virgo has to be either male or female which colors the "generic" quality of any sun sign.

Virgos, atleast the male version are pretty simple, perhaps cause I swim so deep and come up to spend time with the landleggers from time to time, I see simplicity in the Virgo.

Why, sometimes I think they cant deal with anything traumatic, dramatic, etc. My mother lost her dog in a terrible fashion a coupla years ago, but tho she desperately wants another, she just cant with the thing eventually dying.

posted September 15, 2012 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by hippichick:
thats just the thing about Virgos, there is no such thing as "perfect" and they know it, mostly unconciously. SO they spend their lives looking for that perfect ideal, which never exists, hence depression often and always projection of their dissatisfaction with themselves onto others.

My bfriend ALWAYS takes things and switches them up so they are my fault, somehow.

They can not deal with the ugliness of this sometimes very ugly world. I my mother is a Virgo, my former mother in law and sister in law...I have had my FILL of Virgos, dont know why I had the audacity to fall for one.

His lack of compassion toward me, from his inabliity to handle stress or drama is certainly killing this Pisces/Virgo relationship

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posted September 15, 2012 11:10 AM            

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
I think everyone should talk for themselves here. I am a really impressionable person. I see "perfection" in others alot. And if I love someone they can do no wrong. Their faults are somehow their strengths too.
The thing is that I don't see Virgos as being perfectionists. We are too realistic for that. Perfection somehow is an idealistic idea.
What I'd like to see in others is critical self-reflection. Working on yourself, being aware of your potential in every way. And I am not only talking about work related insecurities. There are interpersonal issues that a lot of people aren't willing to work on. How often have I heard from people to accept their bulls-t because it is part of "who they are". To a certain degree that might be true but if you see it and are not willing to work on things and grow as a person I don't have anymore time for you.
Okay listen... I try to understand everyone and I know where you're coming from.
But understand this: The world is ugly and we know. We can deal with it pretty well. I had tragic stuff happening in my life and I have been trough a lot. I just choose to remove the "ugliness" from my life if I can. And if that means that I have to walk away from a person I care about - I will.
I don't like to wallow in drama or self-pity for longer than necessary.
This post sounds harsher than I wanted. But I thought I should just clarify some things from my perspective.

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Well I am speaking from 50 years of experience with a Virgo mother who was never there for me, always out looking for something else, she is now, she finally realizes where heart is. I am speaking from experience of 35 years of a Virgo mother in law, whose son killed himself 11 years ago and still sugar coats her depressed, violent, alcoholic son who destroyed his family, she still is looking for perfection where he was concerned, and she was never there for him either. I am speaking for the past 18 months with a Virgo male who told me himself, he has "issues" issues with things that happened to him in childhood and he will run me off way before I run him off, he told me his seeking "perfection" has everything to do with him and not me.

That is why I said they are seeking an ideal, a falsity that does not exist. Me for instance a silly Pisces is always seeking a dream...an ideal of a dream that doesnt exist...

My bfriend is an artist of wallowing is self pity as is my mother...they "poor me" me to death, but it is cause I listen, again silly Pisces.

Funny my bfriend cant handle my "drama" which I have a very challenging life and I dont share much with him cause I know he cant handle it, dont share much with my mother, dont want her worrying about me. But my bfriend seems to place himself and draw himself to situations of drama constantly.

Funny thing~

posted September 15, 2012 11:50 AM            

Like I said, me as a Pisces gets lost in the illusion of a dream, not that I am seeking any tangible "dream" but, again for no better word the ideal of a dream, from my experience with Virgos they are seeking the ideal of perfection, not that they get up each and every day and aim for a perfect life, but they symbolism of Virgo lends itself to a human coming into the form of a perfect, untainted symbol and having to deal, once earthbound with the sometimes "ugliness" of the human experience while the symbolic Virgin is anything but "ugly"

Better shut up now, I am getting lost in my own thoughts, but I am at work..might have something to do with it!

posted September 15, 2012 11:54 AM            

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Originally posted by hippichick:
Well I am speaking from 50 years of experience with a Virgo mother who was never there for me, always out looking for something else, she is now, she finally realizes where heart is. I am speaking from experience of 35 years of a Virgo mother in law, whose son killed himself 11 years ago and still sugar coats her depressed, violent, alcoholic son who destroyed his family, she still is looking for perfection where he was concerned, and she was never there for him either. I am speaking for the past 18 months with a Virgo male who told me himself, he has "issues" issues with things that happened to him in childhood and he will run me off way before I run him off, he told me his seeking "perfection" has everything to do with him and not me.

That is why I said they are seeking an ideal, a falsity that does not exist. Me for instance a silly Pisces is always seeking a dream...an ideal of a dream that doesnt exist...

My bfriend is an artist of wallowing is self pity as is my mother...they "poor me" me to death, but it is cause I listen, again silly Pisces.

Funny my bfriend cant handle my "drama" which I have a very challenging life and I dont share much with him cause I know he cant handle it, dont share much with my mother, dont want her worrying about me. But my bfriend seems to place himself and draw himself to situations of drama constantly.

Funny thing~

terri~

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posted September 15, 2012 12:12 PM            

well said, I hear ya!

Truth be told I have not really met a Pisces I like much either!

Isnt it funny how so many Virgos and Pisces seem to naturally come together?

I figured my many interactions with the Virgos in my life were to heal wounds from my mother, and how she "wounded" me.

I dont think, nor did I mean to group you or anyother Virgos negatively within a group. Merely stating my experiences.

With my Scorp rising, I am always trying to figure out the human psyche. I am always trying to investigate, much of what brought me to LL years ago. Trying to figure out an Aqua.

I think, unfortunately, we are largely a negative world. Look at media, for instance, the negativism that is broadcast compared to the positives is phenominal. So when we speak of qualities of individuals, perhaps the negatives tend to come to fore front.

I do love the way Virgos ground me, since I tend to walk around 3 feet off of the ground anyway, but sometimes they overground me and I begin to feel like I am stuck in a quagmire, water and earth are not always good bedfellows.

You seem to have some very positive Virgo qualities, perhaps the Virgos in my life will let me see part of you someday...

Always hope!

posted September 15, 2012 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
It's cleaner there.

There aren't germs on the rails in the house unless we've put em there, ourselves. Our bathroom's are personalized and clean, we cook our own food so there's no surprise hair or spit in our meals. We get to decide the amt of fat and oil we use. No one there with a crazy aura field spewing their junk into our atmosphere. Our air is contained and sealed., there are no car fumes or bad breath blasting their gunk down our nostrils.... The question is: "why not?"

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Haha a true virgo has spoken.