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ueharaa
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posted September 13, 2012 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Men have a knack at driving me crazy in every way. If I'm in love, I can be the epitome of "crazy in love" but I don't show it which makes for a lot of bottled up intensity.
And then any bulls**t men do, I can get really mad at. Any little thing they do that appears disrespectful to me annoys me.

I am usually quiet, tries to be diplomatic, but when the limits are crossed, I can seriously get frightening and scream in a don't mess with me way. And I seem to always find myself in such situations, with men who try to abuse their power over me and I ave to stand up and fight for myself 'or fellow women). I don't argue much with women though.

Anyone can relate?

I also have a very hard time relating with the opposite sex. To me men just don't make sense.

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posted September 13, 2012 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
amen to that! women make no sense to me either. I have an afflicted venus.

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posted September 13, 2012 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
which aspects do you have to your venus?

If the conjunction qualifies to make a planet afflicted I have a rather afflicted sun

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posted September 13, 2012 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have venus square mars, venus square moon, venus square pluto, venus semisquare uranus exact, venus quoncunx chiron exact, and venus square asteroid swindle exact. so yeah women make me so angry sometimes I want to pull my hair out and scream.lol

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posted September 13, 2012 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I have venus square mars, venus square moon, venus square pluto, venus semisquare uranus exact, venus quoncunx chiron exact, and venus square asteroid swindle exact. so yeah women make me so angry sometimes I want to pull my hair out and scream.lol


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posted September 13, 2012 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robin Goodfellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Find someone you are compatable with, will that be difficult?

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posted September 13, 2012 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quinqunxes apparently. Also, lots of Saturn aspects.

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posted September 13, 2012 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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have venus square mars, venus square moon, venus square pluto, venus semisquare uranus exact, venus quoncunx chiron exact, and venus square asteroid swindle exact. so yeah women make me so angry sometimes I want to pull my hair out and scream.lol

ouch, it must be hard as a man, not to be able to take your anger out on one of them.
At least, because I am supposedly weaker than them I don't hesitate to make them aware that I actually am not. So I always take my anger out on the man who deserves it (though it always leaves some bad prejudice against those who haven' done anything yet).
I have sun conjunct uranus and neptune, opposed jupiter, and widely conjunct saturn
My mars is at 8-9° sag, it quincunx jupiter and conjunct fixed star Antares.

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posted September 13, 2012 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ouch, it must be hard as a man, not to be able to take your anger out on one of them.
At least, because I am supposedly weaker than them I don't hesitate to make them aware that I actually am not. So I always take my anger out on the man who deserves it (though it always leaves some bad prejudice against those who haven' done anything yet).
I have sun conjunct uranus and neptune, opposed jupiter, and widely conjunct saturn
My mars is at 8-9° sag, it quincunx jupiter and conjunct fixed star Antares.

i agree. as a man it is politically incorrect to express anger towards women, i know because when i vent i'm automatically labeled as a sexist and woman hater, but thats just not true. Just because you get frustrated with people doesnt mean you hate them, i mean think about it, most people argue with their families but at the end of the day they love them more then anything.

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posted September 13, 2012 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, men have it harder when it comes to women/men conflicts. They're easily labelled as being verbally abusive or physically abusive, when sometimes women can be just as abusive as them, if not more because it is not socially assumed that women can be so.

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posted September 13, 2012 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have been really commited lately to distancing myself from the type of women who make me angry/frustrated, because my anger/frustration has frankly reached a boiling point.the women who make me frustrated are the ones who cry and complain about how bad men treat them and how they want a decent man, but yet when a decent man shows up they push him away and choose another deadbeat and they still complain about men. in the past i tried to help these women but they werent having it, they failed to see that their choices were the problem, not men. because if they continue putting up with a man's bs its their own fault. i have learned that i cant help them they have to deal with those issues themselves.

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posted September 13, 2012 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see, they were the type of women who put themselves in such a situation where they end up suffering, yet won't actually chose to do things another way, but still will complain about it. Sure, I believe that when it comes to this, no one can save them from their own undoing, unless they actually acknowledge their behavior pattern and try to change it. It's really wise of you to actually stay away from them since bottled up anger and frustration kept to oneself only ends up hurting you.

It's great that you brought the point of "women complaining about men though". I don't do so (at least I don't think so) because, I don't let that happen. My main issue is that I am very wary of men. I always somehow suspect them to want to use me in some way. I completely fail to see men as loving and caring and willing to give without expecting anything in return. I basically fail to see them as outwardly emotional creature that would do things based on genuine feelings. So whenever they do a tiny thing that confirms this, that's it.

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posted September 13, 2012 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I see, they were the type of women who put themselves in such a situation where they end up suffering, yet won't actually chose to do things another way, but still will complain about it. Sure, I believe that when it comes to this, no one can save them from their own undoing, unless they actually acknowledge their behavior pattern and try to change it. It's really wise of you to actually stay away from them since bottled up anger and frustration kept to oneself only ends up hurting you.

It's great that you brought the point of "women complaining about men though". I don't do so (at least I don't think so) because, I don't let that happen. My main issue is that I am very wary of men. I always somehow suspect them to want to use me in some way. I completely fail to see men as loving and caring and willing to give without expecting anything in return. I basically fail to see them as outwardly emotional creature that would do things based on genuine feelings. So whenever they do a tiny thing that confirms this, that's it.


honestly that bugs me too lol. it irks me how some women are so jaded that they automatically think nice guys are manipulative pricks. i'm not denying that this doesnt happen but believe it or not alot of guys are genuinely kind. i have heard some women go so far as to say they like a**holes because atleast they are honest about being that way, they say nice guys hide their manipulative/mean side,which again i'll agree some guys are that way but there are good guys out there. having that view of men is not gonna help women find a good relationship.

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posted September 13, 2012 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think of it as the nice guy/a**holes conflict. I think it's too easy to categorize people as such. A guy can be really nice to another girl, treating her well, that wouldn't stop him from being an a** to me, and the reverse could be true. I tend to think that people act towards other according to the feelings they have for this person. Aside from the basic rules of politeness of course. At least that's what I do with women,. I always know where I stand with them. If they don't like me or feel competitive etc.. then I know it and I act accordingly, I can pick up the "I am just pretending to be nice to you" vibe from them and the same applies when they are genuine and appreciate my company. With men it a whole another story though, they just seem to not act on their feelings which is why they don't make sense to me. Now maybe it is my own experiences with men that cause me to think like this, but whether they be kind or a**holes or anything else, I've always found there is always an ulterior motive to their actions.

And all of this also relates to my anger because I don't like it when I can't explain people's behavior. And I hate not being able to read people or being led astray by them.

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posted September 13, 2012 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't think of it as the nice guy/a**holes conflict. I think it's too easy to categorize people as such. A guy can be really nice to another girl, treating her well, that wouldn't stop him from being an a** to me, and the reverse could be true. I tend to think that people act towards other according to the feelings they have for this person. Aside from the basic rules of politeness of course. At least that's what I do with women,. I always know where I stand with them. If they don't like me or feel competitive etc.. then I know it and I act accordingly, I can pick up the "I am just pretending to be nice to you" vibe from them and the same applies when they are genuine and appreciate my company. With men it a whole another story though, they just seem to not act on their feelings which is why they don't make sense to me. Now maybe it is my own experiences with men that cause me to think like this, but whether they be kind or a**holes or anything else, I've always found there is always an ulterior motive to their actions.
I really think the nice guy/bad boy thing has truth to it whether people want to admit it or not, there's just too much evidence to believe otherwise.that's what I have seen anyways. but what do you mean by ulterior motives? if you really wanted to you could put everybody in that category.I have been accused of this because I have gotten angry at girls for ditching me for some guy they just met, after I had been putting in quality time and they just go and drop their panties for some random guy, yea that ****** me off, people can interpret that however they wish. I have had women tell me I wasn't really a good guy and that I was just ****** because I wasn't the guy getting laid, which isn't true they can think that if they want, I don't care. thats not how it is though,i'm really nice to people because thats just how i am, its not that i'm trying to manipulate people lol.and yes i have gotten angry when girls have ditched me or push me away for some guy who turned out to be a major douchebag,but only because these girls have talked a big game about wanting a serious relationship with a good guy then their actions completely contradict that because they ditch me for some douchebag and bang him right off the bat,how is that gonna lead to a good relationship? so yes i do get angry at stuff like this,but its not because i'm ****** at the fact my manipulation didnt work, i'm ****** because i was led on and had my time wasted.

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posted September 13, 2012 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In which category did they put you? I don't think there's anything wrong with being angry at women for this.

I don't buy the nice guy/bad boy stereotype because it is supposedly assumed that because a guy is strong and fierce and independent, then he is mean. While if he is more introverted and somehow shy then he is nice. To be honest I don't even understand how niceness, genuineness and meanness, being an a** relates to this.

By ulterior motive I mean that there has always been some hidden reason that would serve their interest to whatever they did. For example, I just realized that the one guy I've known for about 12 years and thought was the nicest I had ever met, actually befriended me back in the day only to get through a friend of mine. I didn't even love him, he was just a friend, but I thought he was a genuine one. Well I was wrong.

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posted September 13, 2012 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In which category did they put you? I don't think there's anything wrong with being angry at women for this.

I don't buy the nice guy/bad boy stereotype because it is supposedly assumed that because a guy is strong and fierce and independent, then he is mean. While if he is more introverted and somehow shy then he is nice. To be honest I don't even understand how niceness, genuineness and meanness, being an a** relates to this.

By ulterior motive I mean that there has always been some hidden reason that would serve their interest to whatever they did. For example, I just realized that the one guy I've known for about 12 years and thought was the nicest I had ever met, actually befriended me back in the day only to get through a friend of mine. I didn't even love him, he was just a friend, but I thought he was a genuine one. Well I was wrong.



i completely agree with everything you said. but the bad boy/nice guy thing isnt about all that, it has to do with how the guys handle relationships. if he lies and cheats and is noncommital he is a bad boy, if he seeks out genuine connections he is a a nice guy. the way i see it, women who go for the bad boys and shuns the nice guys are consciously or unconsciously afraid of commitment themselves.

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posted September 13, 2012 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In which category did they put you?

i've been accused of being manipulative because i get angry at the sort of stuff i have been mentioning. they say i was just nice because i was trying to manipulate the girl lol, and i tell them they can think that way if they wish.

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posted September 13, 2012 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get along soooo well with the opposite sex! Most of my friends are female and it's real easy to relate to them, idk. I have mars square sun, sun conjunct venus.

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posted September 13, 2012 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ueharaa:
[b]In which category did they put you?


i've been accused of being manipulative because i get angry at the sort of stuff i have been mentioning. they say i was just nice because i was trying to manipulate the girl lol, and i tell them they can think that way if they wish.[/B][/QUOTE]

So they don't realize you're being angry because they are the ones who play around ?
As for women going for cheaters and other "bad" guys, I think it relates more to their own need to be that "special one" he will change for than actually appreciating the fact that he is a "bad guy" . I haven't studied enough psychology to know to what type of early life experience this relates, but it would also be interesting to know how this would manifest in a natal chart.

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posted September 13, 2012 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I get along soooo well with the opposite sex! Most of my friends are female and it's real easy to relate to them, idk. I have mars square sun, sun conjunct venus.

sun conjunct venus ! for sure
Is your moon well aspected too?

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posted September 13, 2012 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The opposite sex doesn't drive me crazy, I know how to turn off my emotions and rile theirs up.

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posted September 13, 2012 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I get along soooo well with the opposite sex! Most of my friends are female and it's real easy to relate to them, idk. I have mars square sun, sun conjunct venus.

I have no squares to my venus but an opposed jupiter....my problem is my conjunct pluto and AC, then my generation, anyone from 7years older to 7 years younger has a pluto that conjuncts either my moon, Ac, pluto or venus and usually its more than just one they conjunct so i have pluto issue!! I like intense relationships, but they can get a bit overwhelming and end badly! But they are kind of fun? ESP making up!

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posted September 13, 2012 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Is your moon well aspected too?

Conjunct to Neptune and Uranus, sextile Jupiter, wide square to Mercury. It's in Capricorn.

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I like intense relationships, but they can get a bit overwhelming and end badly! But they are kind of fun? ESP making up!

SnAP! I have an array of Scorpio planets, so people who are older than me will likely have Pluto conjuncts. The degrees are 7 Venus, 15 Sun, 23 Jupiter, 27 Pluto - so basically all fo Scorpio lol!

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posted September 13, 2012 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think they do but in a good way. i don't claim to understand them and i would never want to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUg7G3CPos0&feature=related

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