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a_may_gemini
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posted September 16, 2012 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for a_may_gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aeline:
To find your previous previous life. So you make a chart with the exact placement of your draconic Pluto and then do the same for that chart.

Like a previous life for that new chart.


I couldn't find the date with all the exact placements but i found a date that came pretty close: Feb 8, 1904 and got the draconic chart of Leo Taurus Sagittarius with Sagittarius 20 Pluto Rx.

Sag Pluto was from 1746-62 EEWWWWWW I would have been alive during Reign of Terror!!! Oddly enough, a psychic once told me I was the girl who stabbed a major figure responsible for the Reign of Terror. YUCKKKK

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Aeline
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posted September 16, 2012 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's funny, how even the synastrical connections are repeating themselves.

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posted November 18, 2012 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Draconic Pluto is in Cancer..

Pluto was in Cancer, for everyone on Earth, from July 1913 to June 1939, the first time since the 1600s.

So either I was living around the 1913 - 1939 era or I was living in the 1600s

LOL!

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KarkaQueen
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posted November 18, 2012 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dang thats no far how come im born in the great depression time where everyone was lame.

is that why I feel such a connection and nostaglia to those times? no seriously this is crazy!

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KarkaQueen
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posted November 18, 2012 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently I had Gemini Sun and Capricorn Moon... no different than Cancer Sun and Taurus Moon.. apparently I just went up one sign and got a better Moon sign
and I was born around June 6-7 (my little brother's birthday)
weird... D:

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posted November 18, 2012 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for earthypisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If this is true, I was a Cancer sun/mercury with a Taurus moon, Libra ascendant, Gemini venus, and Capricorn mars born in 1844, since my Pluto is in Aries. I like my chart, but it sounds like it was a pretty boring time to be alive.

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posted November 19, 2012 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aeline:
SO, a theory!

1) Find the degree and minutes, and seconds of your Draconic Pluto;
2) Find the last time when Tr. Pluto was conjunct it. The last time Tr.Pluto made a transit to Dr.one, was always direct. But there are people with retro ones too, lol. So we take the 2 last dates and choose which one applies most. I mean, we have to have some major connections to our own chart for this to happen.
3) Take that date, make up a chart. And this is when the seconds come in - correct our birth time in that chart until you get perfect Pluto placement from your Draconic.


And guess what? It turns out, i would be a Sagitarius in that life. Funny is this, because my Draconic Sun is .. in Saggy.


Okay, I finally did what you suggested.

I don't relate much to the new chart, but there are a couple of similarities worth mentioning:

Sun/Venus conjunction in both charts.
Moon ruled by Venus in both chart.
North Node in same sign and exactly same degree!!!!!

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posted February 17, 2013 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My past life chart has Venus in Gemini at 28 degrees like my current one, seems like my view on love and affection never evolved, I was a Gemini Sun which doesnt seem unlikely, and an Aquarius Rising too!!!

Capricorn Moon and Mars Taurus are fall/detriment, my emotional nature improved but my drive didnt.. haha

both earth North Nodes too

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posted February 17, 2013 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both Earth Moons as usual


I have Venus-Pluto in this one too.

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posted February 17, 2013 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for piscesfishgoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Interesting, my Draco Pluto is in Capricorn as well (28 Cappy conjunct my secondary Moon/POF).


"hroughout much of the 42 to 60 period, Claudius reigned (for further info, see "I, Claudius")."
Yes very much drawn to this period. In fact I believe that "draw" to be the reason why I studied Latin, and why it came so easily to me to learn the language in the first place. It has always felt like we were a "natural fit", the language and me.

When I was reading the book "I, Claudius", it was similiar to the experience I had when reading "Gone with the wind", it was more than just vivid imagination, fuelled by the words coming to life, it was like I was "re-experiencing" the scenes, complete with visuals, the audio, down to a certain smell I remembered.
As an interesting note, even though I know the Roman empire existed after that, it "feels" (for me) like it ended with Vespasian`s reign.


"In the 1270 to 1287 period When Pluto entered Capricorn in 1270 Marco Polo went to China"
oh my God, yes, yes, yes. Just last year or so, I suddenly was starting to dream of Samarkand again, after so many years.

However, I do feel this "draw" also in terms of the late 19th century and the 1920`s.


And then there are of course the times far far far back in time, Mesopotamia especially and England/Ireland at Druidan times.

BTW Pluto rules my 12th house natally and my Draconic 8th house.


so you are saying that you were Claudius?

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posted February 17, 2013 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for piscesfishgoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember 9 past lives. I have proved them to be true as well. My last past life, I was a black maid.

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posted February 17, 2013 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thundered     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm either very tired or very blonde because I can't work it out :-/

My drac pluto is in Libra 28'06

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posted February 17, 2013 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by piscesfishgoddess:
so you are saying that you were Claudius?

Not at all.

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Pisces Adonis
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posted February 17, 2013 04:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do I calculate Pluto?None of the chart online shows the Pluto.

My Pluto in this life is inS corpio.

Draconic Chart says I'm a Gemini with Moon in Scorpio and Aquarius Rising.

Need help!!!

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posted February 17, 2013 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're only supposed to look at the sign your Pluto falls in within your Draconic chart, and trace the ephermeris for it to the previous times it was in that sign.

<- dPluto in Leo "Baby Boomers" 1939~ still around today~

earlier Pluto in Leo generations included~ 1694~ 1448~
(etc)

it's not that difficult. >.>;

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posted February 17, 2013 05:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
You're only supposed to look at the sign your Pluto falls in within your Draconic chart, and trace the ephermeris for it to the previous times it was in that sign.

<- dPluto in Leo "Baby Boomers" 1939~ still around today~

earlier Pluto in Leo generations included~ 1694~ 1448~
(etc)

it's not that difficult. >.>;



But online Calculators don't show the Pluto placements for Draconic Charts >.>.

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posted February 17, 2013 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astro ephermis show Pluto placements back into 1400

Ephemeris

that's what you use for up until that year, calculate the other years by the orbit length in the signs.

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anno_lucis
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posted February 17, 2013 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dr pluto in virgo which is between 1710-1725
some ottoman empire shiz was transpiring and apparently the tulip era lol. kinda vague but i do feel an affinity with holland. esp since seeing the fields of tulips for myself. and i have an obscure flemish surname but it's only been traced as far back to my great grandad leonard, so yeah.

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posted February 17, 2013 06:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do I find birth of date to use for Draconic Chart?

The online calculator I use doesn't specify a past date other than my birthdate.


Planetary Position Comparison
Sun 26 Pis 19 21 Gem 26
Moon 25 Leo 47 20 Sco 55
Mercury 11 Ari 23 06 Can 31
Venus 03 Pis 16 28 Tau 23
Mars 21 Aqu 12 16 Tau 19
Jupiter 07 Vir 39 02 Sag 46
Saturn 14 Aqu 30 09 Tau 37
North Node 04 Cap 52 25 Gem 07
South Node 04 Can 52 00 Lib 00
Asc 14 Sco 51 09 Aqu 59


The left is my chart the Right is Draconic Chart.

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posted February 17, 2013 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you take the PLUTO position only

my draco pluto is in leo (like sands), we have Pluto natally in the 1st decan, so our draco Plutos are in the later degrees of the 3rd decan of LEO in DRACO charts...

you look at times when pluto was previously in that sign... (for us it is Leo, for anno_lucis and ail Virgo) it depends on where your Pluto is natally~ to draconic~

you want to draw out a previous life chart such as aeline and the others have demonstrated, you have to use what resonates with you and make a fair number of guesstimates... if you've had past life regressions, dreams, memories~ it would aid you infinitely in drawing out a chart... but, mostly there is no clear method for coming about the exact date or time or place where that lifetime was based on this science (or any other as of yet, that I'm aware of at least)...

you still haven't said which sign your draconic pluto is, which is why I can't really be of any help to you... pluto is shown on the draco chart at astro too... I'm guessing yours is draco Virgo... in which case, ail has listed those years/ephemeris on the other page here...

maybe ceri or aeline can help you figure this stuff out...

</3 we have squared Mercuries (and probably a lot of other placements)~ communication difficulty... ^^; cute as you are, mon ami. I can't really help you, though I try~! (7h/Dsc Pisces, heh....)

I just don't get what you are after here... the draconic chart uses only your current natal chart to give the nodal positions... and this method only takes the pluto where it is in that chart and the year of your choice to determine your past life natal chart (and then draconic using that)... either way you have to fill in the banks... it's fairly simple... if you have a time period from the draco pluto placements - you look at events during that time period to find out which area of the world you feel drawn too/like you have been there before/you have memory of... whatever, and then you have your location, you guesstimate the date of whatever seems familiar/rings with your experience/regression/dreams/interest... and see how that looks...

@___@ *talking in circles now* lol keep at it... you'll get it

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posted February 17, 2013 07:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
you take the PLUTO position only

my draco pluto is in leo (like sands), we have Pluto natally in the 1st decan, so our draco Plutos are in the later degrees of the 3rd decan of LEO in DRACO charts...

you look at times when pluto was previously in that sign... (for us it is Leo, for anno_lucis and ail Virgo) it depends on where your Pluto is natally~ to draconic~

you want to draw out a previous life chart such as aeline and the others have demonstrated, you have to use what resonates with you and make a fair number of guesstimates... if you've had past life regressions, dreams, memories~ it would aid you infinitely in drawing out a chart... but, mostly there is no clear method for coming about the exact date or time or place where that lifetime was based on this science (or any other as of yet, that I'm aware of at least)...

you still haven't said which sign your draconic pluto is, which is why I can't really be of any help to you... pluto is shown on the draco chart at astro too... I'm guessing yours is draco Virgo... in which case, ail has listed those years/ephemeris on the other page here...

maybe ceri or aeline can help you figure this stuff out...

</3 we have squared Mercuries (and probably a lot of other placements)~ communication difficulty... ^^; cute as you are, mon ami. I can't really help you, though I try~! (7h/Dsc Pisces, heh....)

I just don't get what you are after here... the draconic chart uses only your current natal chart to give the nodal positions... and this method only takes the pluto where it is in that chart and the year of your choice to determine your past life natal chart (and then draconic using that)... either way you have to fill in the banks... it's fairly simple... if you have a time period from the draco pluto placements - you look at events during that time period to find out which area of the world you feel drawn too/like you have been there before/you have memory of... whatever, and then you have your location, you guesstimate the date of whatever seems familiar/rings with your experience/regression/dreams/interest... and see how that looks...

@___@ *talking in circles now* lol keep at it... you'll get it :thumbssup:


Thatst he problem the online calculators don't list Draconic Pluto chart, just ignores it completely.

I don't know much about my past life except my mother once told me I was probably thr reincarnation of a King or something like that........which shocked me as hell when I read the description for past life for Moon in Leo..........

Also if it doesn't help, I have Aristocratic Blood in my veins.........

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posted February 17, 2013 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for piscesfishgoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, I used to be a leo moon, so I was a king/goddess/actor/painter/demigod/savior/best musician of our time/ being, who was really totaly awesome and amazing. This life? Oh well, I am still ahem, trying to figure out what i want to do and stuff, you know, while working at the grocery store as a bagger.

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posted February 17, 2013 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haven't had any past life revelations so can't say that I buy into it. Yet. I may one day then again I may never.
Pluto draconic takes me back to the late 19-teens. Don't feel tied to that era, but there is something I find romantic about the great depression 29 onward however I think that's from my afflicted Cap Moon.

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posted February 17, 2013 09:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edgar cayce past life report

http://grupovenus.com/main.htm

When u click link go to free astrological reports.

Click calculate for instant results.

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posted February 18, 2013 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dr pluto is rx at 15'09 closest i could get was 15'12, which is same day and time but narrowed down to a year - 1719. i lost the will to live trying to get a date/time. asc deg wouldnt change much even if it was mainland eu. chart looks interesting, even if wildly inaccurate. i have an awesome cappy mars.

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