posted September 16, 2012 05:52 PM            

I can say for sure that my Vertex is very important in my own chart. It is at an anaretic degree (Libra 29) and conjunct Uranus at 3 degrees Scorpio. I know it's not an über-tight conjunction but when my Vertex is activated things begin and end very suddenly so I know that my Uranus is involved to some degree (no pun intended).

Since my Vertex is ruled by Venus and is trine to my Sun/Venus conjunction in Cancer, that is another connection. Also, my Sun and Venus are in the 2nd house which is one of Venus' natural houses.

I don't exactly have a theory per se, but I was thinking about the Vertex as an alternate DSC and the fact that it is in Libra. I can say that I am very concerned with finding a partnership which is balanced and equal and feel very uncomfortable when this is not the case. the only other planet I have in Libra is Pluto and the only planet in my 7th is Neptune (which I can assure you has nothing to do with balance and equality in my experience )

Later on this year Venus will be passing by my Vertex as usual and I am thinking that perhaps I will be paying far more attention then I normally do. I definitely notice Saturn transiting my Vertex (and I am up for round 3 of this on September 25th which gives me the willies) but I think I usually ignore Venus.

Does anyone else notice any action in regards to their Vertex when the ruler of your Vertex makes a hard aspect to it by transit? Or, do you notice that the ruler of your Vertex has any bearing on your choice of partner and/or the way you like to operate in a relationship?

posted September 16, 2012 06:22 PM            

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posted September 16, 2012 07:27 PM            

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posted September 16, 2012 07:51 PM            

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Does anyone else notice any action in regards to their Vertex when the ruler of your Vertex makes a hard aspect to it by transit? Or, do you notice that the ruler of your Vertex has any bearing on your choice of partner and/or the way you like to operate in a relationship?

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No, not really.

Not that either.

posted September 16, 2012 08:01 PM            

Gray, And what is your DSC natally? I suppose with all those midpoints there it would make for a challenge in figuring out anything that was related to Vertex attraction, except for the fact that you have Venus conjuncting it. In my experience, any planet conjunct Vertex has an impact. In the example I gave from my chart, I have Uranus conjunct it and so when I had a couple transits from Saturn, stuff happened Very suddenly (Uranus) and karmic (Saturn) in nature.

posted September 16, 2012 08:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
Sand, What is your DSC? Do you find that you are attracted to Uranian people?

Gray, And what is your DSC natally? I suppose with all those midpoints there it would make for a challenge in figuring out anything that was related to Vertex attraction, except for the fact that you have Venus conjuncting it. In my experience, any planet conjunct Vertex has an impact. In the example I gave from my chart, I have Uranus conjunct it and so when I had a couple transit from Saturn, stuff happened Very suddenly (Uranus) and karmic (Saturn) in nature.

Curious about your Venus

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posted September 16, 2012 08:15 PM            

Well my Vertex is in Libra so I crave a relationship which feels balanced and am attracted to people with whom I feel I can find that balance. Maybe with Vertex in Aqua, you might be more comfortable with, say, a long distance relationship, an open relationship, a relationship with someone of a different cultural background, etc. Something which would defy the norm. Whereas the DSC is about the energy of the person we are attracted to, I am wondering if the Vertex might be more about the style of relating that we are looking for.

posted September 16, 2012 08:24 PM            

Ah! I see what you mean about the conjunction being wide between your Venus and Vertex. I'm not sure I'd count it past 5 degrees. Seeing that it's in Virgo, however, would you say that your relationships themselves reflect Virgoan traits at all? Do they tend towards the mental/intellectual at all? Or maybe do you find yourself compartmentalizing your relationships away from other parts of your life?

posted September 16, 2012 08:29 PM            

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ali, My Vertex is in my 6th as well. Seeing as yours is in Libra, do you find, as I do, that when you are in a relationship that you feel it must be a balanced one between both partners?

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posted September 16, 2012 08:31 PM            

I don't know your whole chart, of course, and so there may be other aspects to it which point to that but I still think it's another aspect of astrology which deserves more attention.

posted September 16, 2012 08:34 PM            

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Balanced in which way; as in at the same point emotionally or at the same point in life or a equal partnership in general ?

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posted September 16, 2012 08:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
Gray,

Ah! I see what you mean about the conjunction being wide between your Venus and Vertex. I'm not sure I'd count it past 5 degrees. Seeing that it's in Virgo, however, would you say that your relationships themselves reflect Virgoan traits at all? Do they tend towards the mental/intellectual at all? Or maybe do you find yourself compartmentalizing your relationships away from other parts of your life?

PS. On a side note, I noticed quite a few conjunctions between our charts

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posted September 16, 2012 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
DEFINITELY, I need mutual respect in a relationship especially after the "honeymoon phase" I don't like being overly cuddled, or them having some sort of dominance over me. it irritates me.

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posted September 17, 2012 12:51 AM            

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posted September 18, 2012 03:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreamweaver:
I think the vertex point is very important. I have mine in Libra, also in 6th house (like ail221). I find myself more attracted to Libran qualities than Scorpio qualities (which are on my descendant). However ruler of the planet on the descendant (Pluto) is also in Libra, so I'm not sure whether its vertex influence alone. Hard to categorize, but I think for me, I need to be in a relationship & that relationship - on an emotional level - needs to be a model of trust, harmony & respect. BUT physically, I actually like to be in intense situations & to be dominated. I did not post in the other thread about being submissive as I don't see it as such, but I guess physically I like the qualities that are represented by the Scorpio descendant. Does that make sense?? I have never really noticed the transits to the vertex, but I have read that people and places can also trigger the vertex point. For me, once, a few years ago, I felt an intensely strong connection to a male acquaintance whose sun fell directly on my vertex. We only ever touched once (shook hands in church) & we both looked up and felt like we'd been struck by lightning. It was so weird. Unfortunately he read a lot more into the situation & tried to pursue me & left his wife. But I did not go there & we did not stay friends. I have to say however that I felt his presence strongly & I actually hope it does not happen again!! In my relationship, my husband's vertex is right on my venus (in Pisces) & I would say that it acts as an alternative descendant for him. His descendant is in aquarius but I think he admires Pisces traits more in a partner (likes a little bit of submission...)

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