posted September 18, 2012 04:53 PM            

Planets I think influence Virgo and why:

Pluto: In the myth Persephone(one of the goddesses to represent Virgo) was abducted by Hades and taken into the underworld and became queen of the underworld. If Hades is Pluto & Persephone is his queen then that directly should give pluto some influence over Virgo. The difference between scorpio's plutonian influence and virgo's is that pluto's energy isn't repressed in scorpio. it's exhualted and fueled by the some say co ruler Mars. With Virgo I think it would influence it with it's dark & sexual side which all virgos have that is repressed until it is bought out.transformation and death and rebirth is also something for pluto...summer changes into autumn in virgo. also fertility..the season of virgo is when all the crops are ripe

Moon: The moon in mythology is represented as the mother goddess. Virgo is always seen as that. Like Isis, or the Virgin Mary. isis also a moon goddess. the moon does symbolize many virgoan traits. feminine energy, shyness which virgos usually are, changable (virgos are a mutable sign) and all of the goddess that represent the moon go with virgo. the moon also represent wisdom which virgos have.

posted September 18, 2012 05:14 PM            

I'm such a curious nature, that's why I always keep pondering about different ways in which Astrology will evolve. There will be a day in which the right softwares will be able to exactly combine the right astrological keywords and associations by eliminating precisely what is unclear and uncertain, thus generating new types of reports that will be serious challenges to all astrologers.

There will be human-computer astrological 'matches'.

posted September 18, 2012 05:21 PM            

I have asked this same question myself, more than once.

I, too have gone through the planets, wondering and searching for a better "ruler."

Perhaps Earth, herself, would be a candidate?

Kinda just kidding, but kinda not!

My Pisces soul is so etheral, so not grounded and my opposite is Virgo SO the opposite so why not "earth" rule a very, earth bound mundane energy~

Just a crazy thought in my crazy mind!

posted September 18, 2012 05:49 PM            

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Originally posted by hippichick:

My Pisces soul is so etheral, so not grounded and my opposite is Virgo SO the opposite so why not "earth" rule a very, earth bound mundane energy~

Just a crazy thought in my crazy mind!

t~~~

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Oh, yeah - like, totally. Cuz when you ask anybody to describe a Virgo first thing out of their mouths is how earthy and mundane they are.

*thinks about it* ...No actually, I think it's just you who thinks that Pisces somehow has a monopoly on being 'etheral', to use your rather...interesting spelling.

As far as the actual topic goes - I think Mercury is probably the right ruler for it. Virgo has plenty of Mercurial qualities to it if you've ever been around anyone Virgoan for any length of time.

I don't really contest or try to debate the sign rulership system because as it is, it's more than proven itself over all the centuries its been in existence. Actually centuries is probably an understatement because wasn't some form of astrology in existence even as far back as Ancient Egypt? And probably further back than that too. I'm not going to try and rewrite the rules of a system that has been time-tested and proven itself because I don't like certain aspects of my chart and want to reinterpret them to appease my own ego.

But if this is about just playing along and throwing other theories out there, I've seen Ceres associated with Virgo rulership before, which if you think about it, makes some degree of sense and is probably the next best possibility after Mercury itself.

posted September 18, 2012 06:18 PM            

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posted September 18, 2012 07:22 PM            

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I don't really contest or try to debate the sign rulership system because as it is, it's more than proven itself over all the centuries its been in existence. Actually centuries is probably an understatement because wasn't some form of astrology in existence even as far back as Ancient Egypt? And probably further back than that too. I'm not going to try and rewrite the rules of a system that has been time-tested and proven itself because I don't like certain aspects of my chart and want to reinterpret them to appease my own ego"

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You are making valid points, Gray. Astrologers must always be mindful of not functioning from an ego perspective.

posted September 18, 2012 08:03 PM            

That is my opinion.

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posted September 18, 2012 08:31 PM            

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Originally posted by hippichick:
In my ponderings upon Virgo, since I have so many of them in my life ( )

I have asked this same question myself, more than once.

I, too have gone through the planets, wondering and searching for a better "ruler."

Perhaps Earth, herself, would be a candidate?

Kinda just kidding, but kinda not!

My Pisces soul is so etheral, so not grounded and my opposite is Virgo SO the opposite so why not "earth" rule a very, earth bound mundane energy~

Just a crazy thought in my crazy mind!

t~~~

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I like this theory! It makes sense to my Virgo ASC... lol

posted September 19, 2012 09:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Gray:

Oh, yeah - like, totally. Cuz when you ask anybody to describe a Virgo first thing out of their mouths is how earthy and mundane they are.

*thinks about it* ...No actually, I think it's just you who thinks that Pisces somehow has a monopoly on being 'etheral', to use your rather...interesting spelling.

As far as the actual topic goes - I think Mercury is probably the right ruler for it. Virgo has plenty of Mercurial qualities to it if you've ever been around anyone Virgoan for any length of time.

I don't really contest or try to debate the sign rulership system because as it is, it's more than proven itself over all the centuries its been in existence. Actually centuries is probably an understatement because wasn't some form of astrology in existence even as far back as Ancient Egypt? And probably further back than that too. I'm not going to try and rewrite the rules of a system that has been time-tested and proven itself because I don't like certain aspects of my chart and want to reinterpret them to appease my own ego.

But if this is about just playing along and throwing other theories out there, I've seen Ceres associated with Virgo rulership before, which if you think about it, makes some degree of sense and is probably the next best possibility after Mercury itself.

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So defensive are we? And yes I have been around Virgos for 50 years and 6 months and 9 days, we wont go into the minutes and and seconds

Raised by a Virgo mom, well, kinda of raised me tho I did most of the raising myself, a Virgo mother in law, cant believe I still call her that when I should have given that term away 11 years ago when her son shot himself in the head...yea, he had to raise himself too, she was there, but very abusive...o and, hmmm, lets see, 36 years she be in my life. And her daughter another Virgo, my sisterinlaw. And I had, with all of my problems with Virgos in my life fall in love with a VERY Virgo man.

Your sarcasm and defensiveness are so Virgoan, from what I have seen anyway, from Virgos anyway.

And my "rather...interesting spelling" comes from my imperfections...yea, I have them~

blessins!

posted September 19, 2012 09:58 AM            

I have been thinking alot about what you said in the other Virgo thread.

You are unlike anyother Virgo I have enountered and, I must admit, quite refreshing.

A half a century of a very negative Virgo mother will have consequences on a very sensitive Pisces soul.

You have very valid points, and I will respect any future opinions I read of yours.

posted September 19, 2012 10:06 AM            

I just have to wonder as The God Mercury is portrayed as the winged footed one, swift on his feet, of mental things...

Then I have my VERY Virgo boyfriend and my Virgo mother BOTH telling me slow my talking down (Mercury, Juipter and Mars closely conjunct In Aqua opposite Uranus, closely and again, makes 3 very tight tsquares with my Taurus moon)...anyway these two are the most mentally grounded folks I have ever encountered.

I know my high Aqua influence probably makes me faster than lightening, where mental things are concerned anyway (o and my Aqua stellium resides in my 3rd house), but it does make me wonder why these two particluar Virgos, the ones that give me the most "problems" in life, and nobody else has a problem with my speed of speech?

posted September 19, 2012 10:18 AM            

My bfriend has Sun, Moon, Mercury and Venus in Virgo...

I cant have a discussion with him about, say ghosts, meditation, spiritual healing, things of this nature cause it is all hogwash to him.

He knows me and I dont hide my ecclectic side from him at all, just have to tone it down.

But he is all about work, working on something, tangible, yard, house, etc. he is not open to new experiences, to the more wild side of life and to the the ether~ I have to spell things out to him in black and white, cant get poetic and dreamy or I loose him quickly.

Again, he and my mother are the only two people who cant keep up with me.