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sweet-scorpion
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posted September 22, 2012 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm quite stubborn, Taurus SN in the 5th house. I can be a bit self-centered without meaning to be at times. Sometimes I'm demanding that people appreciate my creativity without understanding not everyone will appreciate it.

I'm sometimes obsessive compulsive in love. I have Venus in Scorpio and Mars in the 8th, trine Pluto. I don't mean to be, but I crave emotional submersion too much, and also have a tendency to put my partner on a pedestal and expect much from them... even harmonious Venus-Neptune does this to me.

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MadameButterfly
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posted September 22, 2012 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MadameButterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am highly critical of myself. People may fear Virgos being too critical of others, but I really have always believed we are our own worst critics first and foremost.

Whatever I do or start, I have to immediately excell at it or else I get very frustrated and find an excuse to make myself believe I can't achieve it. For example, when I first picked up electric guitar, I jumped head first into intricate solo passages and I'd fumble around the frets and it'd sound terrible (of course it would, I was still learning) But I'd get really mad at myself because I couldn't execute Van Halen's Eruption, or something at first try! I was really hard on myself.
I think I even at one point compared myself to Eddie Van Halen and wondered why I wasn't as good as him....

"Rome wasn't built in a day" is a phrase I'm still learning to take to heart.

Virgo Sun and Mars Con. MC
Mercury Sq. Jupiter, Neptune, Uranus, Saturn

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aquaguy91
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posted September 22, 2012 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i can be irresponsible and careless at times ( sun opposite jupiter). I also have an extremely volatile temper, I have to work really hard to keep it under control( moon at 16° degrees taurus opposite pluto, this degree is associated with having a physically violent nature). I can be cynical and negative to a fault ( sun conjunct saturn).

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sand
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posted September 22, 2012 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^lol that's where my sun is. I'm not violent but I would kill a person under the right circumstances. Usually never a he said she said thing. Maybe if they stole from me. Dead.

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Aeline
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posted September 22, 2012 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm typical Libra.

Indecisiveness. And too much emphasis on justice, lol. I can't stand injustice. And if it is touching something i root for, i can't stand it literally, i feel like i'm going to explode. I turn into an Aries (:d) and go an argue my opinionю

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RegardesPlatero
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posted September 22, 2012 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
--I can be overly people pleasing at times, and in the past have been dishonest by omission. However, I've been trying to work on assertiveness over the last few months.

--I can be gossipy and catty when upset. I give myself permission sometimes to be that way when I feel like a person has hurt me or been mean to me. The only thing that really remedies that is going directly to the person and talking to them, admitting that I've been that way, expressing how I misunderstood the situation, asking for their side, listening, and apologizing. Sometimes, though, I don't get a chance to go to the person.

--One of my biggest pet peeves is when I don't get a response and would like one from someone. I tend to go into the gossipy/mean mode that I just described when that happens because I assume the worst. I create a lot of assumptions in my head, and they aren't kind.

--I can be really indecisive.

--I can be selfish and spoiled, and a bit snobby.

--When I'm in a very negative intense emotional state, I can say things that are really mean and hurtful; only way to remedy that is to walk away.

--I'm often very anxious.

--I can be very hard-working and dedicated, but can also be very apathetic and lazy sometimes.

--I'm trying to get better with money, but sometimes I can be wasteful.

--I can be overwhelming; I love to talk and am very intense.

--I don't always love myself or feel good about myself. I'm always apologizing for being intense, for one thing (which has led to a lot of resentfulness towards others on my part, as I've gotten aggravated with feeling like I have to please them by denying/repressing my natural expressiveness and intensity). I'm trying to get to a point of balance where I don't drive people crazy, but, at the same time, I don't drive me crazy either.

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ueharaa
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posted September 25, 2012 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone for sharing with such honesty .

I didn't realize how it could be difficult and somewhat makes one feel down to take a critical look at oneself, back when I started the thread
That's mainly because I don't think that one characteristics can only be negative (aside from a few but still), it always comes down to a matter of perception and situation. I believe we should acknowledge and embrace our imperfections, without forgetting that we tend to be our worst critics.

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ueharaa
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posted September 25, 2012 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I sometimes overestimate my mental abilities and other times I feel like I'm not smart enough.

moody
resentful
cold-hearted
self-pitying
careless



I can really identify with some of these. Do you have any hard aspects from saturn to your personal planets? Or maybe any 6th house planets?

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ueharaa
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posted September 25, 2012 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
I can fake a lot of things like intimacy and emotions. Neptune sextile asc.

I also have a good feel of what to say, when to say it, and how. Cancer mc ruler Leo moon conj it.


This is really interesting! I would have never guessed that Neptune aspecting the ascendant could give this ability.
Do you think it also has to do with your Moon on your MC? My sister has this and she also tends to be like this. To her, it's a way of being more socially pleasing, attractive and thus "accepted".

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ueharaa
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posted September 25, 2012 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
Self-pitying and very arrogant at the same time. Pluto in the 12th house.

Jealous of anybody who receives more love and attention than I do, or who is all around more intelligent, popular and attractive than me. Irrationally jealous in general, secretly competitive. Leo Mercury and Venus in the 8th square Pluto, opposite Saturn in Aquarius. Fire is the most dominant element in my chart. Supposed to be too confident to be jealous, right?

Needs an inhuman amount of love and attention and no human being on this earth has the time or energy to give it. Each fire sign in my Sun, Moon and rising. But I never seek it out, too proud and isolated with Leo sun Aries moon.

Emotionally unstable when stressed or feel put upon. This annoys a lot of people and it comes off as weakness. Sun square Moon. Cancer-Leo cusp are known for their famous mood swings. Only a few people see this side of me, it's not like I have a tantrum in the grocery store. On a side note, I am too proud to seek emotional support.

I always think people who talk or brag too much are liars. Low air, Saturn in Aqua is my only Air planet and besides it is conjunct my 3rd house cusp, all my other houses are empty.

I am too trustworthy and automatically assume most people are honest and have integrity like I do. I am too generous. This is why I've been used a few times. Leo Sun, Venus conjunct Chiron and Mercury.

I repress a lot of self-absorption and most of these tendencies I mention. I don't know, I can never get away with selfishness like other fire signs can.


Yes a lot of fire in a chart would make someone very competitive, and I guess jealousy comes along with competitiveness. But it's not that bad of a default (though it does get a very bad name) if it is channeled correctly (used a a motor to actually achieve things and not transformed into pure hatred).
I have the "need an inhuman amount of love and attention" issue too. It got so bad during my teen worse that i had to brainwash myself into simply gaining happiness from loving people and not asking anything in return. Sure it didn't work that well and overall I always have the feeling that I will never get enough love. I also don't seek it out.
Being trustworthy and generous are great qualities to have , but yes they can sometimes act against you.

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ueharaa
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posted September 25, 2012 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MadameButterfly:
I am highly critical of myself. People may fear Virgos being too critical of others, but I really have always believed we are our own worst critics first and foremost.

Whatever I do or start, I have to immediately excell at it or else I get very frustrated and find an excuse to make myself believe I can't achieve it. For example, when I first picked up electric guitar, I jumped head first into intricate solo passages and I'd fumble around the frets and it'd sound terrible (of course it would, I was still learning) But I'd get really mad at myself because I couldn't execute Van Halen's Eruption, or something at first try! I was really hard on myself.
I think I even at one point compared myself to Eddie Van Halen and wondered why I wasn't as good as him....

"Rome wasn't built in a day" is a phrase I'm still learning to take to heart.

Virgo Sun and Mars Con. MC
Mercury Sq. Jupiter, Neptune, Uranus, Saturn


You've just described me. I can relate to a hundred per cent to what you said. Whenever I take up a new activity or subject I want to be "top best" at it right away. I guess that must be my 6th house stellium giving virgo influence.

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RedScorp
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posted September 25, 2012 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ueharaa
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posted September 25, 2012 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
--I can be overly people pleasing at times, and in the past have been dishonest by omission. However, I've been trying to work on assertiveness over the last few months.

--I can be gossipy and catty when upset. I give myself permission sometimes to be that way when I feel like a person has hurt me or been mean to me. The only thing that really remedies that is going directly to the person and talking to them, admitting that I've been that way, expressing how I misunderstood the situation, asking for their side, listening, and apologizing. Sometimes, though, I don't get a chance to go to the person.

--One of my biggest pet peeves is when I don't get a response and would like one from someone. I tend to go into the gossipy/mean mode that I just described when that happens because I assume the worst. I create a lot of assumptions in my head, and they aren't kind.

--I can be really indecisive.

--I can be selfish and spoiled, and a bit snobby.

--When I'm in a very negative intense emotional state, I can say things that are really mean and hurtful; only way to remedy that is to walk away.

--I'm often very anxious.

--I can be very hard-working and dedicated, but can also be very apathetic and lazy sometimes.

--I'm trying to get better with money, but sometimes I can be wasteful.

--I can be overwhelming; I love to talk and am very intense.

--I don't always love myself or feel good about myself. I'm always apologizing for being intense, for one thing (which has led to a lot of resentfulness towards others on my part, as I've gotten aggravated with feeling like I have to please them by denying/repressing my natural expressiveness and intensity). I'm trying to get to a point of balance where I don't drive people crazy, but, at the same time, I don't drive me crazy either.


It's really great that you're working on each thing that you think are not so good about yourself (I would't think so for some of those you listed)
As for apologizing to others for who you are, you really shouldn't have to go through this. Being intense is a part of who you are, people should either accept you with it or they wouldn't be worth of your attention. Besides I am sure they are many persons that are more comfortable around intense people like you.
Then I am only saying this because I think there's nothing more hurtful than try and repress a part of our identity, and mold it like it's commonly expected to be.

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