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ueharaa
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posted September 21, 2012 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought it would be very interesting to know what you think your defaults are and at the same time what you blame it on (sign? aspects? house placements?)
It could be a great way to learn more about the "darker" maybe less evolved side of each sign and the drawbacks of some aspects.


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posted September 21, 2012 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Defaults as in...behaviours you inherently have? Unfiltered desires and wants that you naturally contain, unworked and "unevolved"?

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posted September 21, 2012 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ueharaa
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posted September 21, 2012 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"default" as what is commonly seen as a bad characteristics to have. (yes, it is sort of subjective, a same personality trait could be both a quality and a default).
So yes I guess what you said was what I was referring to.

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posted September 21, 2012 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh goodie I have a ton of demons! Man, I have a Virgo rising, but I ain't no saint. AND, I'm completely unafraid to admit it too. I think we all have demons and flaws (whoever says they're without them is an utter liar), and if your opinion changes on me, I'm more than welcome to that. Saves you the heart ache later.

I have the desire to be really mean at times. Once I decide that someone is pathetic, I have urges to poke and prod and stick 'em with needles when they aren't looking - and even sometimes when they are looking. Why? Because I can; it's made too easy.

Let's see, another one...I can be so unfeeling when I want to. If I decide that you aren't deserving of my emotions, you'll get simple, straight, cold responses. Repeated responses too. If I'm tired of you, I'll continually tell you, "go away." "stop talking to me." "I don't like you."

And last one! If you notice in the above to, it's me passing judgement on others. I'm deciding you're pathetic or undeserving. So vanity! Self-righteousness. A vain glorious nature. I lavish in attention, control, and being thought of as being better than the rest.

So in case one, sounds totally Scorpio. The second one reminds me of my Capricorn Moon. Then the last, probably a combination Virgo Rising, Leo Mars, with a dash of Scorpio sun.

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posted September 21, 2012 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here are mines:
I am very stubborn. I'll never listen to any advice. I mean I'll probably listen to it but I won't follow it. And I absolutely abhor when someone gives me order. Chances are hat if I'm told "do this, or do that" and feel obliged to it because I am overpowered, I just won't.
This has gotten me in some serious trouble with authority figures. I didn't butt head with them and argue loudly, but I had a very passive aggressive behavior towards them, which didn't serve me at all. I think this is mainly the manifestation of my sun / uranus conjunction in capricorn, and maybe my aries mc ?

I can turn very bitter once I consider myself hurt (and my pride can get hurt). I then turn into someone really vindictive and will give the culprit a dose of his own medicine X 1000. Then I will cut them out. Completely. And just destroy every bit of feeling I ever had towards them. So it's one of those characteristic that is good to have for it makes one strong and know where your limits are but it is somehow an unevolved behavior. I'm not really sure I forgive but I sure don't forget. Oddly enough the only explanation I can find for this is my capricorn moon. Maybe the fact that it is in the scorpio duad plays a part int his too. This or the wide sextile to pluto in scorpio. Because I've never heard of capricorns being vengeful.

I have a huge amount of pride and an inner need for power and control, ugh, I guess that what comes with being a cap sun/moon/mercury and having a lot of cardinal in my chart.

I tend to lie (at least I admit to it ) it's nothing bad or ugly though. I mean sometimes I don't even consider myself lying but simply hiding the truth to protect myself, so I make up stories to fill in the blank when I don't others to know. Yes I can be a little paranoid like this. I don't trust people in real life and am rather secretive about my life. I don't even tell the truth to some family members.. I think the only place where I've always been rather open to talk about my own issues is the internet, and strangers.

And last, I have very high expectations of everyone including myself. And if someone fails to measure up, then I become very disdainful towards them. Of course, it's worse when I am the one who don't follow my expectations; then a great personal crisis ensue.

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posted September 21, 2012 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Oh goodie I have a ton of demons! Man, I have a Virgo rising, but I ain't no saint. AND, I'm completely unafraid to admit it too. I think we all have demons and flaws (whoever says they're without them is an utter liar), and if your opinion changes on me, I'm more than welcome to that. Saves you the heart ache later.

I have the desire to be really mean at times. Once I decide that someone is pathetic, I have urges to poke and prod and stick 'em with needles when they aren't looking - and even sometimes when they are looking. Why? Because I can; it's made too easy.

Let's see, another one...I can be so unfeeling when I want to. If I decide that you aren't deserving of my emotions, you'll get simple, straight, cold responses. Repeated responses too. If I'm tired of you, I'll continually tell you, "go away." "stop talking to me." "I don't like you."

And last one! If you notice in the above to, it's me passing judgement on others. I'm deciding you're pathetic or undeserving. So vanity! Self-righteousness. A vain glorious nature. I lavish in attention, control, and being thought of as being better than the rest.

So in case one, sounds totally Scorpio. The second one reminds me of my Capricorn Moon. Then the last, probably a combination Virgo Rising, Leo Mars, with a dash of Scorpio sun.


I could guess the scorpio, capricorn and leo influence even before you stated your signs !
Is it just me, or is it easier to spot a sign through their "bad" sides ?

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posted September 21, 2012 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ueharaa; I already like and respect you so much for being open about it. So many people try to down play it or justify it or make up for it or hide it...like give it a rest! I can see it plain as day, there's no need to hide it...Part of Scorpio is limits and depths, an exploring and pushing both. I love the "dark" side of human nature because it's there, in everyone, and everyone is so afraid or ashamed of it. I say to embrace it.

But yes, if you can pick up on the negative side of things, it's still a way of picking up on things. If you can guess signs through negative traits, all to you! I'm not great at guessing signs, positive or negative. Do you have any Cancer...?

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posted September 21, 2012 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
ueharaa; I already like and respect you so much for being open about it. So many people try to down play it or justify it or make up for it or hide it...like give it a rest! I can see it plain as day, there's no need to hide it...Part of Scorpio is limits and depths, an exploring and pushing both. I love the "dark" side of human nature because it's there, in everyone, and everyone is so afraid or ashamed of it. I say to embrace it.

But yes, if you can pick up on the negative side of things, it's still a way of picking up on things. If you can guess signs through negative traits, all to you! I'm not great at guessing signs, positive or negative. Do you have any Cancer...?


Thank you . I couldn't agree more with you about simply embracing our less evolved, raw side! It's true that some people always try to downplay it but I don't understand the point. They're only denying a part of themselves and it won't prevent them from acting it out, or prevent others to know better.
And yes, I am a cancer ascendant

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posted September 21, 2012 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a superiority complex. afflicted leo moon in h10. apex to a t-square between mercury pluto and another one with venus pluto. xin metal daymaster..

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"Xin Metal is represented by fine jewellery, small knives, diamonds and glittering gold. Think Cartier, Bulgari and Swiss Army knife and you're not far off. Xin Metal people are inherently talkative and attention seeking. Wallflower is the consummate opposite of the Xin Metal person - indeed, if you're dating a quiet Xin Metal, then something's wrong with them! All Xin Metal's exhibit some measure of vanity, be it intellectual,or physical. The Xin Metal person is always thinking and their mind needs constant stimulation and occupation. They come in-born with a superiority complex, and can be quite bourgeois in their ways, loving the fine things in life."

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posted September 21, 2012 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Is that it, Ands? I kid.

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And yes, I am a cancer ascendant

Hm! Maybe I don't give myself enough credit, hahaha!

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posted September 21, 2012 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
haha i was afraid the thread would glitch if i did everything at once

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posted September 21, 2012 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man, frick the thread! Stuff that mother up, and I guarantee, the thread will take it like a B

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posted September 21, 2012 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The second one reminds me of my Capricorn Moon

True. I can relate to the second!! I do that exactly.

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posted September 21, 2012 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Odette, you're such royalty, I imagine it's deserved. Sometimes I do it when I don't care to try to work out issues.

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posted September 21, 2012 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My feelings are really strong.I can love/hate a person so much that it drains me.Creating another world in my own mind to escape reality has been my trait since birth.Even when I was a child I could eat food that I didnt like by imagining it as a delicious food,those imagination felt so real,almost altering the reality.This I would blame upon all my pisces placements(Sun,saturn,mercury,venus) particularly mercury in pisces.I have always wanted to be famous,make people acknowledge my existence,make people worship me and have some sort of power over people:Leo MC.I have a big ego,have never said sorry in my whole life,I seem to be unable to admit my own mistakes,might is right:jupiter in first house.I have a tendency to get really obsessed with things,when I desire certain things I become unable to get them out of my mind until I get them and I want to get them by any means possible.I also analyze myself alot,it makes me feel unworthy.I am a loner,never had any friend until I was around 9,people come and go,never gave any importance to friendship.I am unable to trust people until they have been around for a long time,: pluto squares sun,mercury,mars,saturn/sun conjunct saturn.

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posted September 21, 2012 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anonymidarkness, I'm clapping for you, very good! I can honestly say there are a few people I want to see post in this thread. I doubt they will, though.

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posted September 21, 2012 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being a know it all, I guess. It's never bothered me, but it has bothered some of my, let's say, ditzier friends. If they're wrong about something, I'll point it out. I don't usually do it in a pedantic way, though, but if it's the main point of what they're saying or something that affects the main point, I'll point it out. I don't normally do grammar or any of that horsesh*t. I don't like it when people base opinions or ideas on incorrect facts.

I'm an Aqua. My ex is an Aqua too but he gets really pedantic about things. For instance, the other day I was trying to get him to donate money to one of my friend's causes and he kept getting caught up on the fact that I said "for free" instead of "free" which has little to do with the main point (and what's the point of even correcting someone if you know what they're trying to say clearly).

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posted September 21, 2012 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robin Goodfellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My default would be disliking some people, I mean almost like hate but I dont show it but this is my default I think, like right now I am hating on someone cant get it out of my head. I'm a gemini

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posted September 21, 2012 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jealousy. Biased opinions. Hasty judgements. Sometimes I am not very respectful of people, if what they say/do annoys me or irritates me. I can be irrational, over-emotional, blunt and paranoid, but at the same time try to come across as logical and reasonable. I sometimes overestimate my mental abilities and other times I feel like I'm not smart enough.

moody
resentful
cold-hearted
self-pitying
careless


Yep, so that's me at my worst.
Woo!


Scorp Sun
Virgo Moon
Gem ASC

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posted September 21, 2012 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can be a showoff. Sometimes when I'm dating someone, I will be like "oh, this person said xxxx great thing about me" or "this person loves me" and it's only my inherent behavior to show off. But I don't mean to try to make them jealous. It's not my intention. Rather my intention is like "look how great i am. youre so great, youre the one i like"

I'm assuming it's my Leo.

I also can be kind of snobby - or selective in people I'll talk to. Distant rather than welcoming to strangers in some cases. I think that's a combination of the Leo and my Scorpio Ascendant.

I also need a lot of communication from a romantic interest. Bordering on too much. I assume this is my Gemini Venus. Another thing about my Venus (opposite saturn, uranus and neptune) is that I will 100% be interested in someone but if things don't go well, I can move on rather quickly. Which can hurt someone and they can feel I was only toying with them to begin with. I am always true to my emotions though.

And I'm incredibly stubborn seeing how I am triple fixed.

Again this is stuff I don't like. And actively want to correct.

^^^Yikes to reading the bad qualities at one time.

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posted September 21, 2012 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can fake a lot of things like intimacy and emotions. Neptune sextile asc.

I also have a good feel of what to say, when to say it, and how. Cancer mc ruler Leo moon conj it.

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posted September 21, 2012 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Self-pitying and very arrogant at the same time. Pluto in the 12th house.

Jealous of anybody who receives more love and attention than I do, or who is all around more intelligent, popular and attractive than me. Irrationally jealous in general, secretly competitive. Leo Mercury and Venus in the 8th square Pluto, opposite Saturn in Aquarius. Fire is the most dominant element in my chart. Supposed to be too confident to be jealous, right?

Needs an inhuman amount of love and attention and no human being on this earth has the time or energy to give it. Each fire sign in my Sun, Moon and rising. But I never seek it out, too proud and isolated with Leo sun Aries moon.

Emotionally unstable when stressed or feel put upon. This annoys a lot of people and it comes off as weakness. Sun square Moon. Cancer-Leo cusp are known for their famous mood swings. Only a few people see this side of me, it's not like I have a tantrum in the grocery store. On a side note, I am too proud to seek emotional support.

I always think people who talk or brag too much are liars. Low air, Saturn in Aqua is my only Air planet and besides it is conjunct my 3rd house cusp, all my other houses are empty.

I am too trustworthy and automatically assume most people are honest and have integrity like I do. I am too generous. This is why I've been used a few times. Leo Sun, Venus conjunct Chiron and Mercury.

I repress a lot of self-absorption and most of these tendencies I mention. I don't know, I can never get away with selfishness like other fire signs can.

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posted September 21, 2012 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are my defaults?

Well I constantly over analyze what I'm going to say.


I judge people right away - I don't like bossy or pushy people. And whenever I encounter those types I kinda cancel them out as people.

Also I try really hard for people to like me and they usually do but I am so tired of being deemed the "shy" girl. I'm not shy I'm introverted.

And you'd never guess... but I'm a Leo Sun.

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posted September 21, 2012 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My negative defaults:

I can be spiteful and manipulative, uses other's emotions against them. A bit arrogant, once someone gets on my bad side. Too fiercely independent, which isn't necessarily a good thing.

Over five cardinal planets
Mercury square Mars and Pluto
Mars trine Uranus and Neptune
Sun square Mars.

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