posted September 29, 2012 07:51 PM            

This is what I believe because it seems very true for my chart. (Because the sun conjunct my ascendent only a year or 2 ago, I'm 21 now, and was born around 27 degrees in capricorn, and my sun is at 17 degrees)

Meanwhile other people believe that your chart progresses by the positions of the planets following the day you were born per year.

I wouldn't say that's true for me. Because then half of my planets would be in a different sign. And I don't feel like all my planets are in another sign. It would be a huge change if that were so... Plus that would mean that your ascendent would change 12 times in a year.

***Anyway if you believe that this is true, then to find your progressed chart, first open up a natal chart calculator. Count your age and add it to the degree of the ascendent you were born and find the new degree. So for example if you were born with 13 degrees In pisces as your ascendent and you are now 25, then count the degrees up from the ascendent to find the new degree which would in this case be 8 degrees in Aries. (30 - 13 = 17. 17 degrees left to count in pisces. 25 - 17 = 8 degrees)

posted September 29, 2012 08:06 PM            

For anyone wondering: http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/progressed.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html

posted September 29, 2012 08:31 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
Well everybody is different and we all unwrap our minds in different ways im sure. But I do not believe my progression has moved as much as 2 degrees per year.

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posted September 29, 2012 08:59 PM            

I didn't know about this kind of progression. But the progression I am talking about is different. The one I'm talking about is like a new natal chart being calculated each year, 1 degree over, and is much more powerful and prominant then these other secondary progressions you are talking about.

For example, my jupiter has recently progressed into the 6th house, my mars from the 5th house to the 4th, and neptune+uranus into the 11th house. And now I feel like a different person than I did a few years ago because I could feel the progressions happening. I am no longer always creating things as I was when I was younger (from mars in 5th). Instead with 2 planets in the 11th for the first time I feel like I am taking in peoples personalities more. So I am recieving instead of giving now. And with my jupiter in the 6th house instead of the house of friends, I am less concerned with 1 on 1 relationships and more concerned with helping the world and charity. These are things i've observed in my self.

posted September 29, 2012 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
I'm confused as to why you *think* that progressed charts are calculated as to how one thinks it works for them... Seriously, have you even looked into it or tried reading a book on the subject?

For anyone wondering: http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/progressed.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html

Also, if *anyone* would like more proof, look into any retrograde planets in your progressed that wasn't already rx in your natal then look at the chart for that day (based on your age) accordingly.

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posted September 29, 2012 11:36 PM            

The thing is that the moment we are born our brain is adapting and learning at its fastest pace, and those are the most vital and important moments of our being I'd say. We are taking in incredibly amounts of information and the planetary affects on us are very strong from birth. That is how we get our astrological imprints. They stick with us for our whole lives. But if 10 minutes after you are born, or even an hour, your ascendent changes to another sign, or a planet changes a house position, you are going to feel its influence and from now on you're brain will be adapting to the new planet position.

So the very first moments of our conception are the most important and imprinted into our brains, but as we get older I guess we kind of *slip* into the later layers of brain development. This is just theory. And we slip at a rate of about 1 degree per year.

If you wanted me to calculate how many degrees does the sun change per day in your secondary natal chart, well all I can say is it doesnt matter. Because unless the sun changed signs within several hours that you were born, it isnt going to have a major affect on your horoscope. Well it will, but not as deep as an affect as it would be if it were in your first few hours of life.

posted September 30, 2012 12:36 AM            

Some AC's progress quicker than others too.

The moon moves signs every 2 years or so. How are you calculating your p. moon?

The progressed chart doesn't have the outer planets move much because it's only been a short time period in the progressed chart.

Solar arc outer planets move quicker than progressed. Progressed hardly move at all.

posted September 30, 2012 01:32 AM            

Secondary progressions Also called A-day-for-a-year progression, Major progression and Secondary direction. This progression involves moving the natal chart forward one day for each year of a person's life. So for example, a person born on April 2, 1982 would have a progressed chart for 2007 drawn up based on the position of the planets on April 27, 1982 (i.e. 25 days for 25 years). The patterns formed 25 days after the person's birth are considered to be symbolic of the person's 25th year of life, and indicate potential tendencies and trends for the year. Secondary progressions are considered by the majority of astrologers to be the most important form of progression.

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posted September 30, 2012 02:04 AM            

but did saturn change a degree that day? maybe it moved 0.01 degree that day, but not enough to make a big difference. the only big differences that are happening, is the planets placement in the sky as it moves into different houses.

Do you get what I mean now? i am not talking about the sun moving 1 degree over, i am talking about my ascendent moving to a new sign roughly 2 hours after i was born. so im saying it moves around 30 degrees in around 2 hours....

so you get a new house placement for all your planets in at least 2 hours after you were born, which has great affects on your mind... do you understand what i mean? do you not think that on your first day is the main day that you are having your biggest imprints, way bigger than the second, and 3rd and 4th days? sure the whole first week has a strong imprint, but im talking about the first few hours of life that is the biggest....... so im saying this is a major progression of the planets into new houses, way bigger of an impression than the secondary progressions you guys are talking about.

I think im talking about the solar arc, but the definition on wiki seems to be wrong or they dont know how it works..

now you dont have to keep reading, but i just want to tackle this definition from wiki:

Solar arc progressions
Also called A-degree-for-a-year progression, and Solar arc direction. This form of progression involves the whole natal chart being moved forward one degree for each year. So, for 2007, a person born on April 2, 1982 would have a progressed chart drawn up based on the position of the planets moved forward 25 degrees from their position on that birth date (it is important to note that this creates a chart of planetary positions that never existed in real life). The name 'solar arc progression' derives from the fact that the sun moves about one degree a day, so the rest of the planets in this method are in a sense 'made to follow' the sun. In other words, the planets are made to move the same distance as was travelled by the sun in secondary progression. Those astrologers who use solar arc progression usually regard it as an additional source of information, to be used in combination with secondary progression .

IN brackets it says when you move your chart forward by 1 degree per year that it creates planetary positions that never existed.. then how the hell is that gonna tell you about yourself? First of all.. in my method anyway, you just move all the house positions forward, and all the planets stay in roughly the same degree of each zodiac sign they are in.. so the planetary positions did exist

oh and heres a good reason why i call ******** on your guys so called 'day for a year' secondary positions......... because as you are born, you brain is rapidly working and rapidly adjusting to the environment. your brain is basically making a mold to reality and it is also adapting to the planetary energy (or maybe magnetism?) that it is recieving. your brain is rapidly developing, and there is no way in hell that your brain is adapting as quick to the planetary energy as you are when you are 20 years old to as when you were a baby.

im saying you soak in the energies and your brain locks to those specific energies as you are born and slowly stops adapting as much as time moves forward. so there is no way that each day passing the day you are born is leaving as strong as an imprint as the first day you were born. infact i'd say each day following the day you are born is leaving less and less of an affect on you in comparison. so there is no way that the progressions made on your 30th day of life have the same imprint as your 2nd day of life. i think it is wayy significantly less.

posted September 30, 2012 08:45 AM            

For starters, this isn't something that is calculated or done based on what we "believe"..

Wikipedia is typed up by users everywhere who know what they're talking about.. If and when there was ever a mistake, some would quickly flag it or correct it.

That fact that you're stating wikipedia doesn't know what it's talking about, is insulting to those who typed it because more than likely they do and it is YOU who's having a hard time understanding.

If you are indeed talking about progressions, there is a method that has been in place for forever. Another user also brought it up. If it's Tertiary, the same goes; day for a MONTH.

If you have no idea what you're talking about, then ASK. It's not wise to go around shouting that what you "believe" in is correct especially when we've made it more than clear that this is not something we suddenly we decided to "believe" in and are now imposing that on you...

posted September 30, 2012 10:05 AM            

my theory is based on the planetary positions that actually existed. like seriously, can no one relate to me? i'm sure Lily can..... but seriouslythe time when you are born is when you get your biggest astrological imprint. your ascendent is changing every 2-3 hours after you are born..... each planet is moving into the next house every 2-3 hours..... so as a baby, in your vital hours of learning and adaption, when a planet moves into a new house for the first time, it has a huge effect on you. im saying the first several hours that you are alive will reflect your astrology for the rest of your life time.

because on the 30th day you are born, your ascendent has already shifted 348 times.... and that is supposed to reflect your astrology on your 30th year? i believe your ascendent only changes up to 3 times in a life time... depending on how old you live to be... not 348 times by age 30.

and how do you even know that each specific day corresponds to a specific year of life? it just seems rediculous that you guys think that the 4th day would magically correspond to the 4th year of life.

posted September 30, 2012 10:07 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
well i think i might be some kind of genious

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