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Ami Anne
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posted October 06, 2012 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If so, please tell me what it was like.
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posted October 06, 2012 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I experienced this once and wrote about it briefly on a past thread. The attraction was very magnetic, we crossed paths briefly in junior and high school.

He was very magnetic, a charismatic boy with heavy Pluto/Uranus energy. The type who isn't the best looking, but knows how to make everyone feel special. He was very popular but also a bit of a rebel in true Aquarian style.

We didn't hook up back then as we ran with different social circles. A few years after graduation, a mutual friend gave me his number, stating he always had a thing for me. We started talking on the phone, and the connection was instant. I felt love after a few weeks, despite not having seen him in a couple years.

When we finally saw each other in person, it was perfect and magical. I can honestly say this was the only time in which my usual Sagittarrian elusive games went out the window.

I felt he could read me and know my soul as no one else could. He said things were beautiful, and opened up his soul in a way which is not usual for Uranian folks. He read me the poems he'd written about me, and spoke of how he found me to be his particular fae princess.

Things were beautiful and passionate, a deep soul connection. However many barriers were in the way, biggest being my recent divorce. He was ready to settle down and start a family, I was in the middle of recovering from my family being broken in two.

Having married as a teen and divorced before being of legal drinking age, I wasn't ready to settle into something serious. I loved him very much, but the timing was way off.

During this time, Pluto was also hitting my Sun/Asc/Neptune, deep and crazy transformations were taking place. Everything was too intense and unreal, things were falling apart and being rebuilt.

I was casting away the old childhood self and coming into my own as a young woman. I wanted to explore the world, know myself outside of my old marital role, experience freedom for the first time.

He did what was best, and let me go. He left to the military and returned after a year. Losing him was a dark time, it took much time to get past him, almost four years. I dated casually, without giving my heart, more as a distraction.

He returned and looked for me again, and I didn't know what to say. There was much to be said, but now my defense mechanisms were up with the fear of being hurt again. I gave him a stupid answer, and he left again thinking my life goal was to be a free spirit forever free of any emotional commitment.

The girlfriend he dated before me, seized the opportunity and got in touch with him. They moved in and married a few weeks later.

According to mutual friends, she continues to despise me very much after all these years and periodically fights with him over the relationship we had.

When we run into each other, she tugs on his shoulder and he refuses to look me in the eye.To summarize, very plutonic it was in that the whole experience changed both of our paths and is something that will def remain forever in memory.

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posted October 06, 2012 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. I have the exact conjunction with my current love interest. It's been one hell of an emotional roller coaster, let me tell you that. It falls in his 4th, my 12th - intense indeed. I shake up his normal, stable environment, have encouraged him to break outside his walls and push him from his comfort zone; he arouses inner feelings of possession, obsession and intense sexuality I try to bury deep inside of me at times.

We started out with a difficult, on again off again and quite unclear relationship, slightly codependent. It was all so intense so quickly. The sexual attraction from Moon-Mars conjunct too was SO present, and the Plutonian obsession I felt was quite apparent. It really freaked him out at times since I liked him /that/ much - and I just felt drawn to him like a magnet was pulling me there. He seemed uncomfortable yet intrigued by all the attention I was suddenly giving him, how we'd contact each other all the time... how it just felt natural to /need/ to physically be with one another.

Eventually I broke down his walls and boundaries and the obsession/pull factor began to drift his way too. He started exhibiting some slight but present manipulative and jealous behaviors towards me I chose to ignore since they didn't get out of hand. He constantly texts me all the time especially about daily things. We always miss one another genuinely. We have the weird intense, maternal comfort-obsession and closeness thing going on.... the type of attraction that can be fiery sexually but also so right just holding one another so tightly in the silence, in this weird nurturing way.

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posted October 06, 2012 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Phoenix and Sweet. Could you tell which side of it you were and how you feel it differed based on if you were the Pluto or Moon.

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posted October 06, 2012 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SweetScorpion, who is the Moon in the relationship? I was Pluto, he was the Moon.

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posted October 06, 2012 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I have! Funny because I asked about this aspect a few months ago in trying to understand it.

His moon was conjunct my pluto, and in my opinion I was the more intense one. He cared, but I cared a LOT. He wanted to make small talk and see what I was up to, I wanted to have a deep and meaningful conversation.

I imagine it like a book. He is the Moon and is a chapter of the book, but I am Pluto so I am the front, back the prologue and epilogue, the foreword, bibliography and everything in between.

I also found myself becoming unusually possessive of him for a short while too.

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posted October 06, 2012 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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SweetScorpion, who is the Moon in the relationship? I was Pluto, he was the Moon.

I'm sorry, I totally forgot to add this important factor.

I am Pluto. He is the Moon. It changes quite a bit for us. I was the one drawn in and totally obsessed after speaking to him for just 1 or 2 days. After that he literally became the object my my fantasy or imagination, I was always thinking about him, my heart was always racing about him, it wasn't lust or a crush but this bizarre sense of just needing him, just desiring him almost in a possessive way.

Did it go the same for you since we have the same scenario?

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posted October 06, 2012 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you Phoenix and Sweet. Could you tell which side of it you were and how you feel it differed based on if you were the Pluto or Moon.


I'm Pluto and he is the Moon.

I explained a little above how it played out. I like hanna am sometimes way too into where he is, what's he's doing, and talking about ex's is a definite NO.

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posted October 06, 2012 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is kind of weird when the woman is the Pluto. Do you agree? In this case, the woman is the Pluto, too.

I think who is whom in any aspect is of paramount importance. Do you, all, agree?

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posted October 06, 2012 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, being Pluto was really hard as the feelings were so obsessive. I felt like I'd go to the end of the world and back to stay with him forever. When he was gone, it took so long to get over it.

Even after I had fallen in love again and remarried, he'd still come into my thoughts/dreams from time to time. I can honestly say it probably took about five years total for thoughts of him to no longer have an impact.

The emotions were just too raw and intense, like being on a drug. I did stupid things for him that I'd normally never do. Felt weak and vulnerable, out of control. I love writing, especially diaries and poems. Well in the whole time we were together, wrote stacks of journal entries and poems. The feelings were just always there, and I became lost in the relationship.

The time we were together just coincided with all the heavy Pluto transits to my personal planets, that it felt like the Elliot Smith son, "Between the Bars". To make it all worse, we also experienced the loss of a pregnancy in the second trimester, and he was kicking a drug habit. Very traumatic and very Pluto.

Now I am so thankful that the whole thing is def resolved in the past, despite all the pain and loss. Now whenever he does come to mind, think of him more like the Gotye song "Somebody I used to know"

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posted October 07, 2012 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is kind of weird when the woman is the Pluto. Do you agree? In this case, the woman is the Pluto, too.

I think who is whom in any aspect is of paramount importance. Do you, all, agree?


Very weird! It feels somewhat like role reversal.

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posted October 07, 2012 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is kind of weird when the woman is the Pluto. Do you agree? In this case, the woman is the Pluto, too.

I think who is whom in any aspect is of paramount importance. Do you, all, agree?


Do you think the mans pluto being on the womans Ac is less intense?

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posted October 07, 2012 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karmic Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After looking at the charts of me and a few of my ex-love interests, it turns out that I DID have this aspect once - and I guess you could say it was a bit weird & intense.

It was with a guy that I had known since I was in high school, but he wasn't someone I knew well at all. Acquaintences, if that, with some mutual friends. We also worked together for a brief time, although he was married at the time, and we didn't have much interaction then.

After his divorce, we got to talking at a bar one night, got reacquainted, and we ended up hooking up. While we did have a connection, I decided to give in and allow him to be a one-night stand since we both were not in the greatest of places in our lives. We exchanged numbers, but neither of us ever called.

Fast forward to a year later, and somehow we ended up coming into contact again. And that's when things started to go a little crazy. We hooked up again...um, repeatedly, and this went on for a couple of years, even after I had moved out of state and 7 hours away.

Again, there was definitely a connection. And looking back, especially when I pulled up our synastry/composite, we had what it takes to make a pretty great relationship...except that for whatever reason(s), we were both complete morons, lol! (Another potentially great relationship lost to bad timing.)

I think we ended up making almost every idiotic cliche blunder in the book. I wondered if this was a fated relationship. I wondered if because we kept popping in & out of each other's lives, if we were meant to be. I remember feeling like I was outside of my body watching myself become something I despised. He played the bad boy role, and I just started acting like the girl that was getting played. I ate it up. Only I wasn't getting played because I knew the score & saw what was happening (sometimes before it happened). I allowed the relationship to become quite toxic, and I remember wondering why the hell I was acting that way! I allowed things to slide that I would've called anyone else out on! I also saw myself turning into an obsessive g/f type. I started to not like myself because of it.

We eventually ended up breaking things off for good, and although the opportunity has come around, I don't think we've spoken since. That was almost ten years ago. Looking back, reasons other than our charts can explain most of why we were the way we were, and I truly think that if we met now, things would play out much differently. But, yeah, I guess it was pretty intense for a while...

Oh, by the way - it was his Moon in the 6th that was conjunct my 2nd house Pluto. Bad Pluto, bad! Hahaha.

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posted October 07, 2012 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Do you think the mans pluto being on the womans Ac is less intense?


YES that would be a balance, for sure.

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posted October 07, 2012 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much, Sweet friends

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posted October 07, 2012 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Do you think the mans pluto being on the womans Ac is less intense?
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YES that would be a balance, for sure



Lol, I had my answer ready (on Gabby's question) and would have said; NO! (hope I've said enough )

Well, maybe there is more balance but I can't speak for it as I never experienced being Pluto in this particular conjunction.

I'm the Moon conj. his Pluto but the orb is a bit wider (2,5) and I agree with many things said here. Also in that other thread recently about the Moon with all her crazy emotions not being rejected by Pluto in a wider sense (well, and let's be honest, is there anything better than that? )
Great & True Read! (you see, still in mind)


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Oopz I did read (in the question) *Moon* .. but now I read 'Ac' (ascendant?) .. never mind, i've said my thing

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posted October 07, 2012 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mir

I am bumping this, so people will see it and respond, hopefully!

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posted October 07, 2012 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi karmic soul,

I loved reading your post, so interesting you also experienced meeting up w a past person and connecting later in life. Also the bad timing factor. I wonder if the purpose of these relationships is to unsettle us so we transform as Pluto is all about change?

For Ami, yes the role reversal w being Pluto as a female was awful. I'd never do it again if I had the choice. I'm used to maintaining my space, identity and even the upper hand in my relationships. I despise feeling needy and clingy, which is how it felt.

His moon conj Pluto fell in my 10th house of libra, my Pluto fell in his 12th house not good at all. We also had my moon Quinx his Pluto, his Venus square my Pluto, his sun/mars trine my Pluto and my sag stellium sextile his pluto. His Scorpio rising also in conj w my Venus. Ugh just way too much Pluto, the beauty of soul connection was too high a price.

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posted October 07, 2012 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive dated a guy with his moon exact on my Ac and pluto exact my pluto...but we broke up and i havent given him another thought...

Then ive dated a a guy with my venus right in between his pluto/uranus/moon we broke up because of his lies! It was a very hard relationship, took awhile to recover. I lost his baby in 4th month, wed been together over a year...then a month later found out he wasnt "technically" divorced from his wife only seperated...funny thing is him and i got along like two lil peas in a pod, we never argued or disagreed, we were like long lost best buddies from the moment we met, we were cracking up and smiling every moment we were together, but the situations that he and a relationship with him dragged into my life was bad and very painful! It was like he brought with him a dark cloud of pain, and i was the one who always got rained on! He lied way to much just to get to be with me, i always wondered why didnt he just do what he needed to do, to make it ok and then be with me...but he just never did and chose to lie instead! Now he's went and made it right...but im over it now, and hes angry at me for it!

But the guy im interested in right now has his pluto 2 degrees from my AC, his moon is right in there to but i dont have his birthtime to know exactly how close it is. I didnt notice him at first, until i became aware i was always being watched.
He broke of a relationship with someone a few days after we met...and thats about the same time i noticed he started watching me all the time. his scorpio mars/venus?
I feel a very deep bond, almost scary in a way...so i don't mind that we arent jumping into anything to fast, i wouldnt want to feel the crash and burn from this, so slow is nice! He hasnt made any serious moves, just flirt a lil here and there, put his arm around my waste and when he has to text me he calls me sweety and honey...we text briefly but always keep it professional...he's very slowly building up to something...when he'll get there, i don't know but we have in our birthcharts alone about 11 conjuctions, not including the conjunctions to my AC....his pluto is literally on top of my karma asteroid a couple degrees from my AC.
I cant wait to find out if his moon is on my pluto or AC, or maybe my karma?...or it might even be on my moon in my 12th? Ugh...wish he would hurry and get his birthtime for me!

He probably has a natal pluto/moon conjunction to my natal pluto/venus conjunction...all on my Ac...this should be interesting! He also has a mars/venus conjunction in scorpio...talk about alot of pluto energy here!

Also i had a guy whos pluto wasnt exact, about 5 degrees from my moon...in my 12th house, our relationship was life changing and took me about 4 years to get over and i still think about him sometimes!
I'd be scared to find an exact conjunction...if 5 degrees had such a profound affect on me! Maybe it was the 12th house conjunction that made it so powerful?

Wish i had more exact conjunctions for you, but even with the wider orbs, all this pluto has been very hard hitting for me....maybe because my pluto is so active in my chart? It is the connection between my AC-pluto- venus conjunction...its an exact sextile to my neptune, neptune is in a stellium with sun/mer, it opposes my jupiter on DC, jupiter conjuncts my chiron and vertex...i doubt any other kind of relationship would due for me anymore, theres just not any excitement.
Maybe the more active pluto is for you creates opportunity for there pluto to touch you? Like if someone had a pretty mellow pluto, anothers pluto wouldnt be felt so much because the particular energy just wasn't a big deal in their chart? IDK?
Ill let you know if his moon touches exact my pluto!

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posted October 07, 2012 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Gabby, Sweetie

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posted October 07, 2012 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks Gabby, Sweetie


Ill let you know if his moon is on my pluto...from what im reading about everyone elses experiences with that and being the female, UGH!! Im kind of hoping it isnt!
That doesnt sound fun at all!

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posted October 07, 2012 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Gabby.. I can see how you attract all that Pluto-energy with your natal Pluto-Venus-Ascendant conjunction! Must be like a moth to a flame.. I can only imagine the energy radiating with such placements..
Interesting read!

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posted October 07, 2012 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow Gabby.. I can see how you attract all that Pluto-energy with your natal Pluto-Venus-Ascendant conjunction! Must be like a moth to a flame.. I can only imagine the energy radiating with such placements..
Interesting read!

"Moth to a flame gets burned by the fire(VERY FITTING)Love is not blind can't you see my desire"...
WOW, Mir, i'm thinking you just came up with the theme phrase for AC-pluto-venus!
Thanks!!

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posted October 07, 2012 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it is a DW, I guess it would balance itself out but the exact conj of Pluto/Moon would be the strongest. Is it super rare to find an exact conjunction of these two planets in synastry?

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If it is a DW, I guess it would balance itself out but the exact conj of Pluto/Moon would be the strongest. Is it super rare to find an exact conjunction of these two planets in synastry?


I've had many close conjunction to my pluto...but never an exact...and i dont think ive had anything but pluto relationships! Im going to go double check tho!
I've had 2 pluto venus exact conjunctions...it hurt to leave but the moon/pluto wide orb was much harder when it ended!

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