posted October 17, 2012 04:33 AM            

We have the same Sun/Ascendant/Moon combo!

posted October 17, 2012 04:44 AM            

@ Lionfish

posted October 17, 2012 05:25 AM              

What I mean is to be always aware what each Persona chart means.
For example the NN in a Venus persona chart might be descriptive of the path/direction/purpose, but ONLY in relation to Venus-related things (relationships for example). It won`t tell you anything about your job or calling or career (unless Venus rules the MC maybe).

To be honest I was sceptical when IQ was comparing the Persona charts to each other, esp. Moon and Saturn. I thought they HAVE to be related back to the natal chart.
But I tried it out with some long standing couples myself, and the results were mindboggling. Not just in asteroids terms, but especially in terms of connections between the luminaries, nodal axis, ASC, MC and Moon and Saturn itself.
I haven`t deepened that research yet, but maybe I should

posted October 17, 2012 05:30 AM              

1. Moon Persona chart (esp in relation to natal chart, especially since the natal chart is the Sun Persona chart, and Moon and Sun clearly are a pair)
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2. comparision Moon-Saturn

3. comparision Venus-Mars

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possibly
4. DESC-ASC charts
5. NN - SN charts

These are already a LOT of charts.

Maybe if there is an emphasis or more telling configurations in one chart as opposed to the others, it might tell where the emphasis in the relationship lies.

For example:
Mindboggling aspects in the VENus-Mars-comparision might occur more often in affairs or relationships, that are based on sexual or romantic attraction; while an emphasis on Moon to Sun or Saturn might occur more often in relationships, that are based of sharing their lives and an emotional as well as practical (in the case of Saturn - for me he represents the "art of the possible" -) connection.

Apart from that I also agree that a different approach could be what the "inner workings" (love that term!) of a certain aspect are.

I guess with a synastric Venus-Pluto aspect we chould check A`s Venus chart against B`s Pluto chart to see how it manifests.
Though of course Pluto is generational.
one degree of difference in thPluto position equals one day difference in the persona charts, which is not much. Not much will have changed by then.
With Pluto being so slow moving I would pay the most attention to the near to exact aspects to angles, Sun, Moon, Venus.

Personally I probably would only use Persona charts up to Saturn.

posted October 17, 2012 06:44 AM            

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@ Lionfish
We have the same Sun/Ascendant/Moon combo!

Nice to meet another LionFish-Bull ;-D

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You're the first I've met!!
Finally! somebody who understands how amazing it is to be me

posted October 17, 2012 06:47 AM              

so like, im plutonian in my asc-square-pluto and mars -sextile-pluto natal, but i can also be plutionian even more because my moon persona makes mars and venus-square-pluto?

eh.

how can anyone be more of one thing or another if they have almost every astrological possibility a part of them to explain it or discredit or contradict it?

posted October 17, 2012 07:04 AM              

2. you have got to have your astrological priorities in order. First you have to really understand the natal chart and its pattern(s).
And all aspects and placements are not equal.

3. in terms of Persona charts, you have to relate every aspect back to the planet the persona chart is created from. It is ONLY relevant in terms of that planet, nothing else.

http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/07/15/aspect-orbs-an-emergency-posting/
http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/06/28/synastry-studies-prioritizing-aspects/

posted October 20, 2012 10:27 AM            

for people activating certain houses in your natal chart , do you feel you deal with them in the same manner your persona chart of the planet that is naturally ruling that house would suggest?

for example ... there 's a guy whose sun and mercury conjuncts in my 4H, I feel I act with him - and he views me - in a manner that resembles my moon persona chart ...

posted September 27, 2018 07:45 AM            

I'm still getting through this thread, and playing around myself with these personae charts..

I'm not exactly sure how they are calculated but I am hoping that somehow they are weighted? So, each personae is taken from the chart and weighted (somehow) and then assigned their own chart.

So, for each planet you think of them acting as a person... sort of.

So much fun and insight. And really interesting with synastry

posted September 27, 2018 09:05 AM            

Meaning, the signs and aspects may differ a bit,but they are the same THEME.

For ex. I have Gemini moon Opposite Saturn, Uranus and conj chiron and Mars.

In Persona chart, my moon is in Sagg, Conjunct Uranus and Saturn, oppo Sun and Chiron. See, same theme, and same stress aspects!

Its tells the same story, from different perspective but same ingredients.

Found the same thing in friends and families charts aswell. I tried on Mercury and Venus too. In Natal Venus is for ex in Aries. In Persona,its Trine Mars. Same themes.

posted September 28, 2018 07:16 AM            

So, if it's a Venus persona chart, the Sun of that persona chart will be in the same position as your Venus is in, in your normal (Sun) chart.

The rest though I'm still figuring out, lol. The aspects, the rising, the house placement, and what all the other planets mean I am not sure yet, exactly.

I mean, if the Sun becomes the that planet in the chart, as it would, as the center of the chart, what's the Venus then supposed to mean in a Venus persona chart (if the sun is already representing that energy)?

I'm not sure how it is calculated either?

It seems that the outer planets stay in the same position. But what about the rest? In my Moon persona chart (for example), The Sun (representing my Moon) is it's Libra place. My Venus though, in my natal is in Cap .. how does it end up in Libra in my Moon persona chart? Again, how are these persona charts calculated?

posted September 28, 2018 08:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Wow! That was unexpected!

Playing around with persona charts.
And did - by accident- the persona chart of my name in someone else`s chart.

And in his CERI persona the ASC is EXACTLY conjunct my natal chartruler.

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Ceridwen.. what did you do here? Can you maybe explain what you mean (or anyone)?