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Gabby
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posted October 16, 2012 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been looking, but so far i don't have enough ppl to investigate to see any patterns....Anyone seen possibilities for it through patterns in birth charts?

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Gemini planets in square or opposition to Uranus? Mercury in harsh aspects...I can't think of any particular patterns off the top of my head but I would look also to 3rd house.

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posted October 16, 2012 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm thinking mutable signs, afflicted I guess? Possibly S-turn or the Moon.

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posted October 16, 2012 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars conjunct/square Mercury
Mars (Action) fires up the mind (Mercury)

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posted October 17, 2012 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does this sound like anything, this is the only connector ive seen consistently in the very few ppl ive looked at...parvati close conjunct mercury in mutable sign closely squared by vesta....

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posted October 17, 2012 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, just had someone blow that theory...but their parvati is in gemini and it squares her siva which is ying and yang energy out of balance...hmmm...idk, im still looking for connection to create an out of balance energy in the mind.....checking psyche now

Psyche, parvati, vesta square in the girls chart that blew my theory

The other thing im seeing is child always tightly conjunct saturn, ac, moon, vertex or dna?

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posted October 17, 2012 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, this is my little sweetpea's chart. She has level 4 ADHD. I love my little girl's personality but its necessary that she receives help so she can stay focused in school.

She is 6.

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posted October 17, 2012 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Mars conjunct/square Mercury
Mars (Action) fires up the mind (Mercury)


I have this aspect - Mars in Cancer 8H square Mercury in Scorpio H11. So already I have a sort of 'eccentric' Merc from the H11 placement, which I do like, but it makes me think a bit differently sometimes than other people I'm close to who have different Merc placements [like H1, H2, etc... no other H11 Mercs].

But, I do have Merc-Saturn as well, a trine from H3 Saturn. So this aspect grounds my thinking and forces logic on me. Merc-Mars makes me extremely impulsive in my words/actions at times, makes me talk and think very quickly to the point of being too fast for some people... I also do have a minor degree of ADD and I am very forgetful in remembering to complete mundane tasks. But Merc-Saturn is my necessary curse to stop me from going out of control I guess.

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posted October 17, 2012 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have terrible ADHD. I take medicine for it on days I work. I haven't really been able to find anything on where it is in my chart. I could post my chart and/or other people I know diagnosed with ADHD I have birthtimes for as well.

For me it could be a combo off my Gemini Venus opposite Uranus and the generated description for Sun/Mercury trine Mars (especially in fire) might make me more "go go go go go" too

I have a very fiery/airy chart

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posted October 17, 2012 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
I have terrible ADHD. I take medicine for it on days I work. I haven't really been able to find anything on where it is in my chart. I could post my chart and/or other people I know diagnosed with ADHD I have birthtimes for as well.

For me it could be a combo off my Gemini Venus opposite Uranus and the generated description for Sun/Mercury trine Mars (especially in fire) might make me more "go go go go go" too

I have a very fiery/airy chart


ok, please do!!

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posted October 17, 2012 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Got Gemini??:
Well, this is my little sweetpea's chart. She has level 4 ADHD. I love my little girl's personality but its necessary that she receives help so she can stay focused in school.

She is 6.


Im seeing alot of mercury retrograde....your lil one has it to! im also looking at pholus and pallas, pallas relates to patterns and pholus is disruptive...with unexpected results.
Ive seen so many times how ADHD is highly intelligent minds that are missing or isnt working, the mechanism to direct the minds energy.
I was discussing it with my sons doctor and he said they don't know yet if its the mechanism, they dont have that, allows their minds to be so much quicker to the point that it is overwhelmed and becomes ADHD or if their mind being so much quicker from birth overwhelms the mechanism and then it becomes ADHD.
It would be hard to know if your born with the mechanism and it shut down or if you never had it to begin with!
You would have to know who was going to have ADHD before it was actually able to be seen to do the research in order to learn how ADHD occurs!
I hope that makes sense!

I find it fascinating tho, so ive been doing research, started using hypnosis with my son...it helps so much! I dont end up in tears every morning anymore!!
Now have some new clients and their children for same thing, including my sons teacher, her son and husband have it! Ive started working with 2 schools to see if we can implement a program during classes using binirial brain waves for concentration, pressure balls to sqeeze(felt with sand balls...a teacher made them, she used several types of materials and felt seems to be the material that ADHD children are drawn to) If the parents agree to it, ill give hypnosis sessions for free to their children, with parents right there, to help restructure the childs mind into being able to relax...trying to help find a way to overcome this without losing any of these childrens precious, brilliant minds!
There isnt a lot of research on the actual reasons for ADHD, and ppl are so aggressively angered about ADHD, i dont really get why it such a controversial issue! I guess because the medication is so intense its become a taboo subject.
I've had unaware ppl get angry at me for using hypnosis...hypnosis is nothing more than a state of relaxation...and more than anything we need to help these children get a hold of their minds instead of being dragged around by them! I feel so hurt for my little guy as i see the roller coaster ride he goes through. But really what is worse is the way ppl react to them, like they are bad, they cant help it! I know its got to affect their self esteem and confidence when everyone is always stressed and frustrated around them. I'm pretty sure ADHD children would be at a much higher risk for abuse because to stay calm while dealing with a child bouncing off the walls takes the patience of a saint!
I want to eventually see if i can get the support and volunteers to start a free practice and school for children with this and help them either overcome it, or learn how to use to their advantage!
I just need parents with open minds! Who knows maybe eventually we can open schools specifically for this and other issues that help heal their minds while teaching them! That would be my dream come true!
We need to learn so much more about the mind before we can go there! We need to know what goes wrong that creates these issues, is it in the dna or not? We just don't know yet!
I just hate how ppl get angry when all we are trying to do is look into every possibility to help these children...this is actually the reason i started studying and found an accredited school for hypnotherapy...i wanted to help my son and didnt trust anyone to get into his head, you have to know they have only the best intentions coming from love before you let someone into a childs vulnerable mind! Their minds are so impressionable before the age of 12...after 12 and the older they get, they are able to reject(even under hypnosis) what doesnt fit with their core self but before they are vulnerable to being manipulated!

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posted October 17, 2012 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anyone posts charts please include
Quaoar
Pallas
Vesta
19521 Chaos
4580 Child
16 psyche
1170 Siva
4227 Kaali
2847 Parvati
2629 Rudra
55555 DNA
33154 Talent
3811 Karma

I'm wondering about some of these because investigating if these children have a special purpose, it seems ADHD has really picked up since the 70's and the 80's plus babies began the indigo children...

The astrological signature for the Indigo generation began in 1983, at which time both Quaoar and Pluto had entered Scorpio. This is about the time the first Indigos began to incarnate. Interestingly 1983 also marked the first Pluto-Saturn conjunction since the late 1940s, so once again we have an intense but quiet start to a momentous generation. Yet already these kids are getting noticed and have been given their own generational appellation, Indigo. Astonished contemporary writers (mainly parents) have noted that they are poised to make one huge impact of change and transformation on this planet when they reach adulthood. They will actually do the kinds of change that their parents only managed to talk about once long ago. http://astrology.richardbrown.com/NewPlanets/qgen.shtml

19521,4580,16,1170,4227,2847,2629,55555,33154,3811

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posted October 17, 2012 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Im seeing alot of mercury retrograde....your lil one has it to! im also looking at pholus and pallas, pallas relates to patterns and pholus is disruptive...with unexpected results.
Ive seen so many times how ADHD is highly intelligent minds that are missing or isnt working, the mechanism to direct the minds energy.
I was discussing it with my sons doctor and he said they don't know yet if its the mechanism, they dont have that, allows their minds to be so much quicker to the point that it is overwhelmed and becomes ADHD or if their mind being so much quicker from birth overwhelms the mechanism and then it becomes ADHD.
It would be hard to know if your born with the mechanism and it shut down or if you never had it to begin with!
You would have to know who was going to have ADHD before it was actually able to be seen to do the research in order to learn how ADHD occurs!
I hope that makes sense!

I find it fascinating tho, so ive been doing research, started using hypnosis with my son...it helps so much! I dont end up in tears every morning anymore!!
Now have some new clients and their children for same thing, including my sons teacher, her son and husband have it! Ive started working with 2 schools to see if we can implement a program during classes using binirial brain waves for concentration, pressure balls to sqeeze(felt with sand balls...a teacher made them, she used several types of materials and felt seems to be the material that ADHD children are drawn to) If the parents agree to it, ill give hypnosis sessions for free to their children, with parents right there, to help restructure the childs mind into being able to relax...trying to help find a way to overcome this without losing any of these childrens precious, brilliant minds!
There isnt a lot of research on the actual reasons for ADHD, and ppl are so aggressively angered about ADHD, i dont really get why it such a controversial issue! I guess because the medication is so intense its become a taboo subject.
I've had unaware ppl get angry at me for using hypnosis...hypnosis is nothing more than a state of relaxation...and more than anything we need to help these children get a hold of their minds instead of being dragged around by them! I feel so hurt for my little guy as i see the roller coaster ride he goes through. But really what is worse is the way ppl react to them, like they are bad, they cant help it! I know its got to affect their self esteem and confidence when everyone is always stressed and frustrated around them. I'm pretty sure ADHD children would be at a much higher risk for abuse because to stay calm while dealing with a child bouncing off the walls takes the patience of a saint!
I want to eventually see if i can get the support and volunteers to start a free practice and school for children with this and help them either overcome it, or learn how to use to their advantage!
I just need parents with open minds! Who knows maybe eventually we can open schools specifically for this and other issues that help heal their minds while teaching them! That would be my dream come true!
We need to learn so much more about the mind before we can go there! We need to know what goes wrong that creates these issues, is it in the dna or not? We just don't know yet!
I just hate how ppl get angry when all we are trying to do is look into every possibility to help these children...this is actually the reason i started studying and found an accredited school for hypnotherapy...i wanted to help my son and didnt trust anyone to get into his head, you have to know they have only the best intentions coming from love before you let someone into a childs vulnerable mind! Their minds are so impressionable before the age of 12...after 12 and the older they get, they are able to reject(even under hypnosis) what doesnt fit with their core self but before they are vulnerable to being manipulated!


Some of what you said is what my Daughters doc said. She said she processes so much info at once that her mind doesn't prioritize the info fast enough.

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posted October 17, 2012 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wonder if ADHD has to do with the mind struggling with its opening up to higher vibrations....i think we need to do all we can to help there minds synchronize with this higher intelligence and energy...my son is so shy, sensitive and caring, his heart is so concerned with injustice to the animals, the trees, plants anything natural! We always have to touch the trees as we pass them because he says they need our love to live...he feels all plants and animals can smile, he can feel it and tells me when they are happy and when they arent. He was born in 2004

"Quaoar Generations"

Quaoar conjunct Neptune, May 1942 through August 1945, both Quaoar and Neptune were changing signs. Both planets were passing back and forth over the Libra-Virgo cusp and frequently one planet was on one side of the cusp while the other planet was on the opposite side, thus giving a classic dissociate conjunction. These individuals were those born during the middle and late part of World War II, and while they have no conscious recollection of the war for the most part, the temper of the times left its indelible imprint upon them at a deep level, but the confusion often associated with a dissociate conjunction is evident in their inability to articulate the imprint's impact on their lives.

"Generation Baby Boomers"

That ended by September 1945 when both Quaoar and Neptune entered Libra and remained in conjunction in that sign through June 1948. These are the early Baby Boomers, but those born from September 1946 to June 1948 are also coloured by the Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Leo as well as the Quaoar-Neptune conjunction in Libra. Because the Saturn-Pluto conjunction is so intensely inward looking, and Quaoar-Neptune conjunction in Libra is so ethereally cosmic (and for the most part ignored by these self-gratifying Boomers), this is a quiet group of people we don't much hear about. It's the July 1949 onwards Boomers with Pluto in Leo and no other outer planet distractions who have arrived at stage centre in the public's and the demographer's eyes.


"Generation Y"

Quaoar continued its generational signatures in the mid-1970s when from November 1974 to November 1978 it was conjunct Uranus in Scorpio (again using a 6° orb). Here we have the Generation Y astrological signature in the same way that the Uranus-Pluto conjunction in Virgo during the 1960s was the Generation X astrological signature. These 1974-1978 individuals will have the most remarkable entries into midlife at about age 40 when Uranus opposes their natal conjunction of Quaoar and Uranus. Look for some spectacular career changes out of their banal ordinary jobs into more creative fields of endeavour. They will be the prophets who herald the coming of the generation just behind them.
****(Generation Y, this is me born in 1975, i have ADD,no hyperactivity just hard to focus but its much better now after working with it through hypnosis/and ADHD has lead to a complete career change, starting to try to help children/ppl in general)***


"Generation of the Indigo Child"

In generational astrology (the astrology of the outer planets by sign), Quaoar is best seen in it's ability to define the generation which popular culture now calls the Indigo Children. The so-called Indigo Children began incarnating in small numbers during the 1980s and in larger numbers during the 1990s. A few stragglers are even incarnating now in late 2002. Understand that not all children born in the 1980s and 1990s are Indigos; indeed probably only a minority are Indigos.

But they are unique. These are the kids who are labelled "different" by their parents, teachers, and peers. And as individuals, they know they are "different", although for the most part they are still too young to articulate what the difference is. But the difference, metaphysically speaking, is simple. They are vibrating with a new higher energy, the likes of which this world has not seen in a very long time. While the complex astrological signatures for this generation involve all the now-known outer planets (Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, and Quaoar), Pluto and Quaoar are the bookends for this singular generation.

The astrological signature for the Indigo generation began in 1983, at which time both Quaoar and Pluto had entered Scorpio. This is about the time the first Indigos began to incarnate. Interestingly 1983 also marked the first Pluto-Saturn conjunction since the late 1940s, so once again we have an intense but quiet start to a momentous generation. Yet already these kids are getting noticed and have been given their own generational appellation, Indigo. Astonished contemporary writers (mainly parents) have noted that they are poised to make one huge impact of change and transformation on this planet when they reach adulthood. They will actually do the kinds of change that their parents only managed to talk about once long ago.

Let's take a detailed look at Pluto and Quaoar for the Indigos. The intensity of this generation builds until the 1990s when it hits a double peak. Quaoar was conjunct Pluto from September 1991 through November 2002 (6° orb), and like the sign-straddling World War II Quaoar conjunction, this Quaoar-Pluto conjunction also straddles two signs, in this case Scorpio and Sagittarius, which IMHO is the most potent of the cusps on the zodiac. No planet is subtle sitting on this cusp. For these conjunction individuals, chaos and profound transformation will be second nature, and they will not understand anyone who does not see complete upheaval and reconfiguration as the normal way to effect change. Already their Boomer and Gen-X parents and teachers are often completely flummoxed by these incomprehensible children.

There are three distinct segments to this Pluto-Quaoar configuration for those who make up this part of the Indigo generation. A two-year stretch from September 1991 through November 1993 marks the first segment of the conjunction during which Quaoar and Pluto were conjunct in late Scorpio. The second segment of the conjunction, during which Quaoar and Pluto are zig-zagging back and forth across the cusp of Scorpio-Sagittarius, lasted from December 1993 to November 1995, and is often characterized by a dissociate conjunction between the two planets. Finally both planets are in Sagittarius for the third and final segment of their conjunction which lasts almost seven years from January 1995 to November 2002.
Boriska Meet Boriska, a precocious 12-year-old Indigo child from Russia who remembers his past lives on Mars, and also his past lives here on earth in Lemuria. Click here to download a 182MB zip file containing five web articles plus a 65-minute video documentary in wmv format in which he draws pictures of the flying saucers he used to fly from Mars to explore Earth long ago. He also predicts serious Earth changes in 2009 and 2013.

We. may expect significant differences between the individuals in each of the segments of the Pluto-Quaoar conjunction. For instance, while both the first and second segments are amazingly intense, especially the first segment children (the 1993 kids are the most intense), the second segment, born during the dissociate conjunction, likely will have a more complex and richer tapestry of energy to manifest.

Adding to that tapestry of energy is the Uranus-Neptune conjunction (January 1990 through December 1996 using a 6° orb), an exceptionally demanding energy in its own right. Combined with the Pluto-Quaoar conjunction, this gives us the highest energy group of people we've seen on this planet for several millennia. Uranus conjuncting Neptune lasted through the first two segments of the Quaoar-Pluto conjunction in the early 1990s, and cranks up the intensity and vibration to levels long-forgotten on planet Earth.

Some of these kids will burn out in the soup of density in which the world currently wallows, others will be misdiagnosed as have something "wrong" (and abused by the educational/medical/psychiatric establishment), but I would expect most will hack their way through the dying Old Order and make it into adulthood. Nonetheless, it will be the individuals born with both Quaoar conjunct Pluto and Uranus conjunct Neptune in the early 1990s who will be the world-shakers.

The third and final segment, individuals who have the Quaoar-Pluto conjunction in Sagittarius, are still incarnating as this is written, so it's a bit dodgy to call what these kids will be like. Nonetheless, with the absence of the Uranus-Neptune conjunction for most of them and the Sagittarian influence instead of the Scorpio influence, they will be quite different from the earlier Indigos, more likely less intense (comparatively speaking) and more expansive than the soul-searing earlier Indigos.

The Quaoar-Pluto energy is still unfolding right now in the early 21st Century. The bookend demarcating the end of the Indigo Generation and the beginning of a post-Indigo generation would likely be the end of the Quaoar-Pluto conjunction in November 2002 (my best estimate right now). Less likely demarcation points might be when Pluto leaves Sagittarius (2008), or Quaoar leaves Sagittarius (2017).

And yes, as mind-boggling a notion as a post-Indigo generation might be (given that we still haven't grasped the Indigos just yet), understand that the Indigos are just the beginning. Someone is going to have to take the change they initiate and bring it forward into concrete structure, form, and usefulness. (Sounds like Pluto and Quaoar in Capricorn to me.) Anyway, those kids won't incarnate for a few years yet (whew!).

Nonetheless, pay attention to the Indigo kids. They are defining the transition to a new order, the likes of which we do not and cannot see or know today. They understand how to create, use, and shape chaos into something never seen before. And they will not hesitate to do so to change the world, and given the state the world is in, it may be the only option left in any event. No one will have to explain the impermanence of all things to them. They are itching to create that impermanence.

Don't expect these kids to take any prisoners or brook any nonsense when their time comes. They aren't going to be happy about inheriting a polluted cesspool of a planet, run by greed, bigotry, deceit and violence. They have an agenda. It's called cleaning up the mess. Pluto rips out the decay and rot. Quaoar brings in the Divine Chaos to be shaped into a new creation on planet Earth. When these kids arrived, both Quaoar and Pluto were in Scorpio, which talks of mass change and transformation. It will not be subtle with these kids. They have a job to do. They will do it.
http://astrology.richardbrown.com/NewPlanets/qgen.shtml

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Originally posted by Got Gemini??:
Some of what you said is what my Daughters doc said. She said she processes so much info at once that her mind doesn't prioritize the info fast enough.



The school i went to for hypnosis teaches you how the mind works, right vs left brain thinkers...but there are some who are equally both right and left...they take in everything both emotionally and physically at the same time. This means they are taking in twice as much information as everyone else, all the time!
These ppl are easily overwhelmed, isolate themselves because they can't take to much stimulation, normal life is already to much! At times they are over sensitive and easily startled esp when stressed!
They are also easily manipulated because someone coming on to strong or pressure leaves them mentally to tired to fight. When they are little they need extra protection from an outside source so they don't crumble! They are very vulnerable! Every child ive worked with that has intense ADHD has been this kind of thinker! They either become aggressive to compensate or retreat into their own solitary world and dont consistently try to make or maintain friends, they may put effort into it when they have the strength but its hard to maintain that strength so they retreat into isolation for periods of time....this is just how they rejuvenate mentally...they need silence and alone time!
I believe we are raising the children that will fight and win the battle that refuses the plastic world we live in and helps guide us back to love and humanity! We have to help them get through their childhoods without being beaten down so much their lights go out! They are an extra special sensitive ppl, they need extra protection!

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damnnnnn haha. i didnt do the asteroids i procrastinated posting them so i didnt check the thread after you said yes. i ll repost them later or tomorrow though

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damnnnnn haha. i didnt do the asteroids i procrastinated posting them so i didnt check the thread after you said yes. i ll repost them later or tomorrow though

LOL...ok, ill look at what is there for now...

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