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Stawr
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posted October 18, 2012 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have pluto rx, wow pluto rx is more intense than pluto direct. Dang I already have pluto in scorpio conjunnt my moon.

in the 6th house. I can be a team player though.

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posted October 18, 2012 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Except for pluto was hitting the sun !)

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posted October 19, 2012 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m8pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mercury Retrograde and people always complain that i talk too much

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posted October 19, 2012 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DrewMann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mars retro opp my sun. I differ in that I love competition and I do know how to express my anger very well

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posted October 19, 2012 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...i have some retrograde (already debated this part in a similar topic):

Jupiter
Saturn
Uranus
Neptune
Pluto
North Node

...yeh most of it fits - i guess... ;(

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posted October 20, 2012 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious Bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Gabby! I found that extremely useful information and eye-opening and very true.

House 7
Pluto Rx
Uranus Rx

House 9
Neptune Rx

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posted October 20, 2012 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only have one retrograde planet in my chart - Mercury in the 3rd! All true...

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posted October 20, 2012 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces sun / Cancer rising here. I have

Mercury r in 9th house Pisces
Jupiter r conjunct my Asc in Cancer
Pluto r in 3rd house Virgo
Uranus r in 3rd house Virgo
Neptune r in 5th house Scorpio

I also have a spiritual water grand trine involving my ASC/r Jupiter, r Neptune, and Chiron which forms a kite to my r Uranus.

I totally relate to everything in the post except for the r Uranus making mountains out of molehills. Maybe it's my Cappy moon, but I just can't do drama. Quite the opposite in fact.

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posted October 23, 2012 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for a_may_gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
your jupiter must have been starting the motion forward even though it appeared to be still, you like in a car when you begin the forward motion you still are motionless for a second as gears get moving...with this you would have a less fluid jupiter, some bottled up energy but still finding an outlet won't bw to hard as the energy was in a forward motion, just very very slow! But this actually good, with jupiter you want it to be slow moving it stays with you!


Thanks for that! I do feel like my Jupiter is a slow moving "direct" kind of luck. There's precautionary feeling that I carry with me at all times, even when I was a small child.

Saturn ℞ in 1st is very typical of the 1st House Saturn. First, this position often was unwanted during the gestation period. Saturn here assumes responsibilities for others in order to feel wanted or connected to others. The Direct Saturn can isolate with a set of barriers to protect them. When ℞, these people take on responsibilities for others in order to feel wanted and because they do not know when to say NO.

Although my natal Saturn was Stationary Direct, I'm considered to have Saturn Rx. On top of that, Saturn conjunct my AC in the 1st house. I do know this to be true because I like to have a sense of purpose at all times and I do enjoy helping people solve practical problems. Before my Saturn's Return, I use to take up pretty much everyone's problems and solve everything for them because that's exactly how I feel connected to others. During my Return and now after my Return, I know that I am not responsible for others and I make it clear to others that if I do something for them, it is because I want to, not because I have to. I don't get pushed around as much now as when I was younger.

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posted October 23, 2012 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for a_may_gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in the 1st (but not within 6 degrees of the 2nd cusp) can first be interpreted as influencing the mother’s attitude during the gestation period. With Pluto rising, mother felt angry, resentful and very resistant to being out of control while pregnant. There may have been tensions occurring within the family and mother internalized the anger with powerful emotions. Even the unborn child felt feelings of being out of control by what was happening during gestation! With Pluto R, the influence is more psychological rather than expressing an external need to control the environment. As a child, the individual learned to pick up subtle cues from adults – picking up good moods or bad moods, when to assert or when to step back. They make good psychologists or they do well in jobs where profiling others is important. Their powers of physical regeneration are phenomenal!

OMG I can't believe it! I know this to be true because my mother was very resentful and angry during her pregnancy with me. She ate foods that she disliked but she had to do it because it was the baby (me) that was making all the demands. My birth was also very strange... nothing went according to plans.

I am very good with psychoanalysis. I was a social worker for 3 years and I had many clients come in and I would know off the bat who would cooperate with me and who would cause problems. Because I can "sense" a person's energy within seconds of interacting with them, I would just know how they are and going to be. I have Mercury trine Pluto on top of that, so it further helps me dig deeper in to the psyche- both mine and others.

I can attest to the regeneration part. I was in a really bad car accident when I was 18 where the car flipped and flew in the air and landed on the roof. By all accounts, that accident would have proved to fatal for pretty much just anyone and yet, I walked out with a few bruises and a puffed up lip from the air bag burn. I even busted out of the car by myself and was going to walk to the hospital!

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posted October 23, 2012 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for a_may_gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus in 2nd is not in touch with the need to be unconventional in how they earn a living. If they get into normal jobs, it manifests in a lack of financial stability— they do not realize that the instability is part of their rebelling against the normal.

That's really true. Every time I seek and get a "regular stable" job, something weird happens where I lose that job due to some odd event such as lack of work for my position, restructuring in the organization making my position obsolete, etc. I'm not a mainstream person and I've not ever wanted to be mainstream but I always feel as if that's the only way to make money. For the past 2 years, nearly 3 years, I've been laying down the foundation to being a more steady self-employer.

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posted October 23, 2012 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for a_may_gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune rules where you have an ability to manifest, to creative from your imagination, but R may not be aware of this ability. Neptune R is extremely sensitive, more so than direct, because of the connection with unseen realms. This is where their creativity expresses itself— through the psychic, the metaphysical, the intuitive, the spiritual, the humanitarian— not something traditionally seen as creative.

Because of their heightened sensitivity, they need to avoid drugs, alcohol and stimulants. The tendency is stronger to cultivate addictions to dull the astral body, the solar plexus, and this can get them into trouble.
This heightened sensitivity can encourage fears, paranoia and phobic conditions— that connection with the unseen realities, the veil between the seen and the unseen.

These people are naturally very psychic but they may not realize this. This may engender fears of the unseen which they do not understand.
These people pick up a lot from the astral plane— other people’s thoughts and feelings can be perceived as their own. Smoking often cuts off the astral stimulation.

Neptune in the 3rd is often attracted to using a nickname because it changes their vibration. A study in numerology is helpful here. They have an affinity with numbers. They sometimes get lost easily.

It's all very true. I was lying down next to my brother in the hospital and "felt" him "leave" and I woke up in the the dark and called out his name. I was 4 at that time.

I also don't smoke, drink, do any drugs, and very rarely will I even take over the counter meds for a headache, let alone colds. I tend to let everything naturally cycle out of my body. I'm uncertain as to why I'm this way. I all I know is, I've always been this way and I like being sober at all times.

I'm not really a "psychic" in the sense that I can tell people's futures and whatnot, but I am psychic in the sense that I am open to others and I can "reach" the deeper part of them where it's hard to reach. This scares a lot of people and yet it always fascinates people with Scorpio Sun/Moon when I do this to them. They strangely like that I can tap into the unknown.

I like getting lost and it's true that I get lost a lot. I get lost very easily and yet, strangely enough, I also have a photographic memory and I get "unlost" quickly. I think I like getting lost because I want to be in a different dimension where others cannot find me.

And finally, I have a billion nicknames. I thought it's because I'm very Gemini but that could just be part of it. All my friends call me some variation of first or middle name. My immediate family call me various nicknames that I've acquired throughout my childhood and I refer to my parents not as traditional "mom" and "dad" but I have nicknames for them, too.

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posted October 29, 2012 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrofan123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Please explain, if and how...examples if possible, plz!

"Retrogrades in the Natal Horoscope"

"NEPTUNE RETROGRADE"

When Neptune is Direct, its House position is where you seek to fulfill your dreams, where you can manifest things, and where you seek to escape reality and, when it is Direct, it is much easier to get a handle on what that dream or vision really is. Direct rules more traditional forms of creativity.

Neptune R tends to be more vague, more unclear and the individual may not know exactly what they are looking for in expressing their personal creativity. If Neptune turns direct by progression, it signifies that time when they suddenly realize what they want to do creatively— it can be something that they have been doing all along and did not realize it!

Neptune rules where you have an ability to manifest, to creative from your imagination, but R may not be aware of this ability. Neptune R is extremely sensitive, more so than direct, because of the connection with unseen realms. This is where their creativity expresses itself— through the psychic, the metaphysical, the intuitive, the spiritual, the humanitarian— not something traditionally seen as creative.

Because of their heightened sensitivity, they need to avoid drugs, alcohol and stimulants. The tendency is stronger to cultivate addictions to dull the astral body, the solar plexus, and this can get them into trouble.
This heightened sensitivity can encourage fears, paranoia and phobic conditions— that connection with the unseen realities, the veil between the seen and the unseen.

These people are naturally very psychic but they may not realize this. This may engender fears of the unseen which they do not understand.
These people pick up a lot from the astral plane— other people’s thoughts and feelings can be perceived as their own. Smoking often cuts off the astral stimulation.

EXAMPLE: When I am giving tarot reading, if there is too much smoke around me, my psychic ability is cut off and my intuition is gone. I have observed psychics and other sensitive people who smoke to cut off this “picking up” of others energies because it is just too draining.

This Neptune is not clear about what it wants because it is not something tangible that they seek. They can more readily pick up qualities in another that the person will never manifest in reality. This can cause them to attract “Losers.” They see the potential…a potential that never becomes a reality.

Neptune in the 1st is so receptive to the environment that they do not know who they are or what they feel. They must learn some type of discipline, setting up boundaries, so that they can tell the difference between their mood and another’s mood.

Neptune in the 3rd is often attracted to using a nickname because it changes their vibration. A study in numerology is helpful here. They have an affinity with numbers. They sometimes get lost easily.

Neptune in the 4th is overly empathetic to conditions in the home but they may not realize this. They must find a calm, serene domestic environment and living space. A place in the woods with nature would be nice. Chaos and disorder are stressful.

Neptune in the 5th and 7th Houses are continually looking for a vague type of perfection in relationships. They do not know how idealistic they really are! Disappointment ensues. Neptune in relating Houses seek relationships in order to escape the pain of the reality in their lives. When they start to feel the pain, they move on.

Neptune in 6th is super-sensitive to the work environment and chaos therein. They need an ideal to fulfill in their job but they can be naive in relating— change jobs and long to find what they really want to do… which they may not find.

Neptune in the 8th can have a lot of denial issues around the partner’s finances and handling of finances. There can be problems with taxes, insurance matters and how money is invested.
A woman with this position told me that her husband was the type to forget about bills, misplace them or ignore them all together so she always took charge of financial matters in the marriage – and this is exactly what this Neptune wants her to do!

Neptune in the 9th is looking for utopian ideas for living on this planet. Since there aren’t any, they get disillusioned a lot. They can even become cynical. Utopia cannot be found in a place. This is another addictive position.

Neptune in the 10th wants to do something creative with their lives but they usually do not know what it is that they want to do.
EXAMPLE: I once taught a Career class using astrology. All of the students in that class had a strong Neptune— they were not use of what they wanted to do professionally, they were studying for a career for which they were ill-suited or they longed for some type of greatness professionally.

Neptune in the 11th express the vagueness is seeking ideals and people who embody such ideals. They do not really know what they are looking for— often to escape the pain and fear in their personal lives— and they are periodically attracted to people whom they feel embody some sought after ideal. It is the vision of the moment because they are not really clear about what they are truly seeking. When it is not what they want (or when the group demands a commitment), they move on to something else.

These people can find themselves working in groups, helping those with addictive personalities— such as the 12-Step groups of Alcoholics Anonymous (all types of addicts— drugs, alcohol, sex, food).

As a House of Groups and Friendships, these people can get caught up with affiliating with disorganized groups (spiritual people are rarely organized), groups that have a wonderful ideal of saving the planet but no one really knows what they are doing.

In choosing friends, there is an attraction to dreams and alcoholics. They should never mix friends and money. They must avoid people who arouse sympathy— people whom they seek to rescue. There is no such thing as a rescuer— only 2 people vying for the victim slot.

Neptune in the 12th is so highly mediumistic that coping with reality may be difficult.


http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/retrogrades-in-the-natal-horoscope


thanks for this !! very true Neptune retro in the 1st house

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