posted October 25, 2012 07:30 PM            

First of all he idealises characters in movies, series, sit-coms... Then, he goes out of his way to act out the 'roles' of these characters in real life... He is not a bad actor so you can almost tell who he is trying to act out. These past two weeks it has been Dexter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_(TV_series)

The other weird thing is... when he is into someone - he finds out everything about that person... and then tries to act out that person's favourite characters.
For example - he found out that I like Matt Damon (in Bourne Identity) a couple of months back & I made a passing comment about Matt Damon looking hot riding a motorbike - so next thing I know he buys himself a motorbike out of the thin blue sky (because he never had an interest in riding bikes before).. and starts dressing up like Matt Damon in the movie.. wearing black leather jackets and black cardigans etc.

What's worse is that when he is "in character"which is like 90% of the time... (EVEN while DRUNK.. because btw I have seen him drunk out of his mind and he was *still* in character)... but what's worse is that he is under the impression that everyone else is also playing a character in HIS movie. Obviously he's the star of the show.
This makes me the leading lady.. and everyone else has parts as well. It is SO awkward.. being around him lately - I feel like he thinks there's a camera crew following us around everywhere.

I have Mars conj Neptune myself - and frankly, I'm not a bad actress either - so if I wanted to I could go along with this.. but I like reality for what it is. I am more grounded than he is and I don't like the idea of putting on a show in real time.
If we were in a university play - then sure! any time! But not in day to day life. I refuse to play a role.

So what happens is that, whenever we have dinner or go to a party - whether we're in a group or alone.. he acknowledges my presence - because at those times I dress and act lady-like, I flirt.. I'm attractive etc... so my behaviour fits his 'plot'.

BUT - at other times, when I mention day to day things.. like maybe feeling unwell or having errands to run or being stressed about something or anything at all... that does not fit the script of a Bond-film..... he refuses to have a conversation at all.

posted October 25, 2012 07:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I just your post asclibra!! Thanks for your reply. It really is difficult dealing with him. It may have grossed him out - that's true... but he behaves this way regarding other non-grose things as well (that's why I edited it!).. For instance even if I just say I'm unwell - or can't be bothered doing something etc -- anything at all that makes me seem *human* - as opposed to a bond-girl stepping out of the ocean in her bikini.... bothers him and he shuts it out, as though it never happened.
His Moon is in Taurus btw... he doesn't have anything in Virgo other than SN - but I have a strong suspicion that he has a Virgo AC, so you could be on to something there!!

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posted October 26, 2012 02:29 AM            

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Make sure that he is not just ignoring you and what you say because he does not care

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ya.. well he's pretty self-centred... so it wouldn't surprise me.. but he thinks he does care.
If this is caring in his mind - I'm not sure what 'not caring' is.

posted October 26, 2012 03:16 AM            

Regardless, YES!!!!! You know, i've caught myself sometimes playing out those "roles". At times, it leads me to having that role projected onto me without my knowing. My favorite movie of all times used to be The Dreamers. 3 kids that are all film fanatics and they all live together for a while making endless references to films that if they were any worthy of, they'd seen.

I connected with it so much because i can just hear a sample of a tune and if i recognize it or think it sounds like something, my mind will scan things that i didn't even know i remembered and make the connection. It happens a lot with films, too... Mars square Neptune is literally on an alternate dimension in this reality but somehow, we can communicate to normal people...

Lol- it's the only way that i can explain it. Look at his Sun and Mercury to make sure there are actually no screws loose... One guy i met thinking he was a brilliant artist and could join me on these scripts but he'd go from normal to flipping his hair out of his face and all of a sudden being someone different, entirely!!! He has mercury opposite Moon.

Another guy had Mercury opp Neptune but had no positive aspects to mercury. The positive one's more or less grant permission to "go there" but the squares are what doesn't blend well with "reality".

The square can't easily adapt.

When i took an acting class a few years ago, i got rave reviews. I never went back, though.... I was able to get into character so well, so fast and so soon, that for the level i was being taught at, it was a bit toooooo soon! I had no idea how to get out of character. They weren't prepared to deal with that either so it took the entire class by storm. It resulted in me going into near panic because i was literally *that* person and *that* person, had gone through a scene and i felt it in every corner of my body but i didn't know how to remind myself in a way that those feelings weren't mine (because i hadn't gone through it) but of the characters.

posted October 26, 2012 07:56 AM            

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so if I wanted to I could go along with this.. but I like reality for what it is. I am more grounded than he is and I don't like the idea of putting on a show in real time.

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posted October 26, 2012 09:06 AM            

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Is he aware of his doing?

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posted October 26, 2012 06:12 PM            

But it tees me off even more that he fails to acknowledge you when you need him most, for the daily things. That to me doesn't even say delusion - it says extreme emotional immaturity and RUDENESS. Don't waste your time with a guy who flakes out. It'll never really work out as you plan, and when he blows you off or cancels last minute you'll just end up hurt from high hopes. I don't meant to sound fatalistic, but I've recently been through such a situation and it makes me sad to see someone else going through it. And, of course, the guy with me had Mars in Virgo trine Neptune conjunct Uranus in Capricorn, with Uranus-Neptune in the 5th house!

I also have a Mars Neptune aspect, the opposition with my Mars in the 8th. I have a habit of easily slipping into character, especially when I'm enamored with a script or a character. I can really take my own experiences + darknesses to make myself into that character. But I don't go around doing it in every day life or playing pretend as a lifestyle. I take method acting classes now and want to be in some theatre productions, and camera time. This is what this guy needs to see. There's a time and place for everything. When people have a gift like that, which Mars-Neptune people frequently do have, they should channel their intensity into acting or theatre works. NOT real life, which shows he might have some bad issues you don't want to be bogged down with anyway.

posted October 28, 2012 01:08 AM            

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They did both idealize certain actors and try to take on their persona, have life be like a movie since it was more romantic that way. I guess it would've been more comfortable for me if I actually liked the actors that they liked as well ... Funny as I have zero hard Neptune aspects in my chart (and definitely no Mars/Venus/Neptune), but I attract them.

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This is probably because you are a Pisces. I have Mars conj Neptune as you know, and I definitely attract and am attracted to Pisceans.

This guy does have a positive side.. but good luck to anyone searching for it! I've lost my patience. He literally gives me a headache. I know that's an expression lol - but I actually feel like I get a headache whenever I see him lately.

C1ND3R - He is actually not an actor lol But I could swear he missed his vocation! We're both studying a postgrad degree in something pretty different to acting.
His Sun is conjunct his Mercury in Scorpio.. That doesn't seem all that mentally-screwy.. I mean I usually love Scorpio Mercury, since it trines my own and the others I know are caring an reasonable people.
I understand feeling like you are in a different dimension..There might be similarities between the conjunction and the square. The thing is I feel like I can drift in and out of that dimension.. like I have control over what happens.. whereas he seems out of control.

Scorpy & Venus - long time no type with you guys either!! I really miss LL! I'm not on as much & have way too much to do these days
I would say he is aware to some extent but he would never acknowledge it openly. If I told him that I know he bought a motorbike to copy Matt Damon - I'm pretty sure he would deny it. But he makes it so obvious :/
I mean *really* obvious. He also has a habit of looking up people and pages I like on FB - and then inconspicuously mentioning them in conversation as though they are his favourites...
For instance I might like I don't know... lets say 'photography'.. and two days later he'll be an expert photographer all of the sudden.

sweet-scorpion -

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There's a time and place for everything. When people have a gift like that, which Mars-Neptune people frequently do have, they should channel their intensity into acting or theatre works. NOT real life

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Exactly!! Very well said!! I agree 100%
Maybe he doesn't know how to be 'normal' though.. I'm not sure.
Or maybe it's a form of escapism since his mother passed away when he was younger.. That could be part of it. I really don't know.

posted October 28, 2012 02:50 AM            

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I mean *really* obvious. He also has a habit of looking up people and pages I like
on FB - and then inconspicuously mentioning them in conversation as though they
are his favourites...
For instance I might like I don't know... lets say 'photography'.. and two days later
he'll be an expert photographer all of the sudden.

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I get weird feeling when I read this description,is there any way he could have some sort of mental condition? He's mirroring.
I read the thread you referred to,so sorry,I remember you mentioned this Scorpio...

Oh,and HELLO

posted October 29, 2012 02:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I know someone who is behaving in a way that genuinely seems delusional at times. I am actually starting to think he has some sort of mental problem - and perhaps his natal Mars/Neptune square is an explanation for this loony behaviour.

First of all he idealises characters in movies, series, sit-coms... Then, he goes out of his way to act out the 'roles' of these characters in real life... He is not a bad actor so you can almost tell who he is trying to act out. These past two weeks it has been Dexter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_(TV_series)

The other weird thing is... when he is into someone - he finds out everything about that person... and then tries to act out that person's favourite characters.
For example - he found out that I like Matt Damon (in Bourne Identity) a couple of months back & I made a passing comment about Matt Damon looking hot riding a motorbike - so next thing I know he buys himself a motorbike out of the thin blue sky (because he never had an interest in riding bikes before).. and starts dressing up like Matt Damon in the movie.. wearing black leather jackets and black cardigans etc.

What's worse is that when he is "in character"which is like 90% of the time... (EVEN while DRUNK.. because btw I have seen him drunk out of his mind and he was *still* in character)... but what's worse is that he is under the impression that everyone else is also playing a character in HIS movie. Obviously he's the star of the show.
This makes me the leading lady.. and everyone else has parts as well. It is SO awkward.. being around him lately - I feel like he thinks there's a camera crew following us around everywhere.

I have Mars conj Neptune myself - and frankly, I'm not a bad actress either - so if I wanted to I could go along with this.. but I like reality for what it is. I am more grounded than he is and I don't like the idea of putting on a show in real time.
If we were in a university play - then sure! any time! But not in day to day life. I refuse to play a role.

So what happens is that, whenever we have dinner or go to a party - whether we're in a group or alone.. he acknowledges my presence - because at those times I dress and act lady-like, I flirt.. I'm attractive etc... so my behaviour fits his 'plot'.

BUT - at other times, when I mention day to day things.. like maybe feeling unwell or having errands to run or being stressed about something or anything at all... that does not fit the script of a Bond-film..... he refuses to have a conversation at all.

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