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Pisces Adonis
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posted October 29, 2012 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces Adonis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I mentioned a few threads ago, I got a natal chart done by a professional Astrologer.

However I've been reading deeper into the subject, and now am really anxious about this report.

Ebert Wade stated on his site that one thing commonly done by "Keyboard Astrologers" is that they search stuff on the web or use a computer-generated program and copy and paste its content onto their customer's "Individualized Natal Report", mailing or e-mailing it to them as though they did their own individual analysis of the customer's chart.

So I decided to search content on the report the Astrologer has given me and made a discovery a large portion of them existed on the internet months, if not years, before I got my reading!

To put as an example, here are some things on my report you can search online.

BALANCE OF ELEMENTS
WATER STRONG
You speak from your heart, and are a compassionate and caring person with a strong intuitional nature. You value your personal relationships, in which you often taking on a caretaker role. You are such a sympathetic and understanding person that you are often caught in the role of mother to your loved ones. Your weakness lies in the fact that you fail to take an objective perspective when necessary. You can often react without thinking things through first.

THE MOON IN LEO
You have an emotional need for praise and attention.
Under stress you may show off in order to gain attention. You may be very proud of your mother, and/or she may be very proud of you.

VENUS IN PISCES
You yearn to merge and be at-one with your partner. In fact you want to be at-one with the universe. You also enjoy sharing inspirational activities with your partner, ranging from listening to beautiful music to visiting an art gallery.


Just copy and paste any of the three above and you can find the stuff been on the web for months, if not years before my Report was made!

FYI the Report was made in this month of October.

Now its a good thing I haven't paid any actual money and used the electronic Credits that came for free when joining the site. Its equivalent to less than $2 when the credits I used are converted into real dollars However the Astrologer told me that she normally charges $20 for a Natal Report and Chart. The Reports is 10 Pages long.

When I realize a large portion of it is found online, I can't help but feel so damn lucky I got the report via a bid using free electronic credits rather than using my own money.

I'm curious was what the Astrologer sent me a plagiarized work? Is such a thing actually common in Astrology and while it would be plagiarism in other fields, it wouldn't be in Astrology?Would you say the Astrologer who made the chart is a fraud?

If you're interested in seeing the full chart, post here and I'll try to email you it.

I must know if what just occurred is ethically wrong within the Astrology world, if not fraud?Or is this common practice?

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Gabby
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posted October 29, 2012 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, when i first became interested in astrology and had charts ran the astrologers/numerologist who ran the charts did just run a report from their comp, and i didnt realize it then, but now i do! They never give it a second thought! They couldnt tell you very much at all if they didnt have the report in front of them. I dont think its considered plagiarism, but obviously its a very generic reading! Its up to the person to make sure they get a reading from someone who actually has astrology in their own minds and hearts, understand aspects and can adjust the planets and the way they function according to those aspects! I cant stand the generic readings, they tell me my libra in venus is a light airy placement, light hearted about love....ummm, NO! A real astrologist(non computer generated) would look at the pluto conjunction to venus and know im not light hearted about love! I understand your frustration but i dont think its anything illegal, altho maybe it should be!! LOL

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Astra
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posted October 29, 2012 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If an astrologer takes information from another astrologer's site, puts in a report and claims to have written this report, then this is plagiarism and it is illegal.

As a student, I would be expelled from my university if I copied another source and tried to pass it off as my own. If a professor were caught plagiarizing, they could potentially spend some time in prison (about 1 year) It's nowhere near being as terrible as murder, child abuse, etc, but it is still a serious crime.

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anonymidarkness
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posted October 29, 2012 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ridiculous,that astrologer couldnt even bother to copy paste a description with more infos.

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Pisces Adonis
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posted October 29, 2012 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces Adonis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just got a response through E-Mail from another professional Astrologer named Sylvia Sky. Sylvia Sky.Sylvia Sky has written lots of articles debunking fake Astrologers on The Hub and as well as articles of how to spot frauds from real Astrologers.

Sylvia responded to an Email I sent her, asking if the Astrologer who did my natal chart was legit or a fraud as I was going to purchase some more services before I decided to start checking the contents of my report. Here's what Sylvia told me.


quote:
Originally posted by Sylvia Sky:

(Real name withheld), I would say she is legitimate. She is not calling herself a psychic (astrologers are not psychics!) or dressed up in gypsy costume like the fakes. The reports she offers for about $25 are computer-generated, though. They are not fake but they are not written specifically for you. If you want one-on-one actual customized interaction that will answer all your questions take the $120 option.

Good luck,

Sylvia



So thats why the Report I got content can be found online.It was a computerized reading.

However I can't really attack the Astrologer who did my natal chart-I just realized when I dabbled with my Account on Tarot.com, it too brought computerized readings and same with other sample or free readings from other sites.

Damn this is such a invigorating topic thats inspiring me to post lots of stuff!

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