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Mandy pie
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posted November 05, 2012 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mandy pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read stuff online that says that conjunctions to the south node usually mean that the couple is really attracted to each other at first, but then there is a separation. I was wondering if people have experienced this.

I know two people who are friends who have lots of south node contacts but also some saturn contacts as well.

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posted November 05, 2012 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi! Welcome to Linda Land. This is a good question~ looking forward to hearing others' replies.

It makes sense to me that if all the good synastry is happening around our SN, it might bog us down. Or we can find a way around that, if we really like the person.

The guy who I thought was my soul mate had his moon conjunct my south node. It didn't work out, but I missed him for years after it was over.

I had another intense relationship with a guy whose Mars was conjunct my SN, but that ended badly.

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posted November 05, 2012 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
South Node contacts with personal planets in synastry show karma and past life connections. That karma may cause you some trouble in some cases but it creates instant affinity. It may work out very well in some relationships. It really depends on how you're dealing with your karma or if you have learned the lessons or not.

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quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
The guy who I thought was my soul mate had his moon conjunct my south node. It didn't work out, but I missed him for years after it was over.

I had another intense relationship with a guy whose Mars was conjunct my SN, but that ended badly.



this happened to me too, first moon, then mars, and ended just like you described it

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posted November 05, 2012 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mandy pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys saying that it ended for you- did you have any saturn contacts between you?

These two people I know who are friends with each other; I've believed for a long time that person A= lets call them Alice is a really bad influence on Person B= lets call him Bobby. But Bobby obviously doesn't see it that way. Which made me wonder- is my perception of their friendship really off? or is he just in a dreamland? So I'm looking at the synastry to see what astrology says.

Alice has both Mars and Saturn conjunct Bobby's south node. From what I've read these are supposed to be separative aspects.

However they also have a tight Moon/Saturn Trine within less than 1 degree. Plus Saturn trine Jupiter, and Saturn Square Venus. And Saturn supposedly promotes loyalty and togetherness.

Makes it hard for me to decipher how this friendship is going to fare. Should I post all their aspects to get some votes on the matter?

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posted November 05, 2012 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CRCRINCON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jupitersgirl:
South Node contacts with personal planets in synastry show karma and past life connections. That karma may cause you some trouble in some cases but it creates instant affinity. It may work out very well in some relationships. It really depends on how you're dealing with your karma or if you have learned the lessons or not.

My SN is conjunct my husbands Sun
His Moon is inconjunct my NN
His Juno conjunct my SN
My Eros conjunct his SN
He has some tight trine Mars, Jupiter to my NN.

We also have quite a few Saturn aspects.

Very much inlove and happy. But I can say that he is happy with the status quo and I often want to move forward on things (NN) and create more change and growth then he does and his lack of desire sometimes stops me from moving foward. But that might just be other factors too.

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posted November 05, 2012 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mandy pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm. Your post confused me even more. I guess it's hard to tell. In synastry These two have:

Good:

1-Moon Trine Saturn
2-Mercury Trine Neptune
3-Mercury Sextile Pluto
4-Mercury Trine NN
5-Venus Trine Pluto
6-Venus Conjunct Venus
7-Venus Sextile NN
8-Mars conjunct Pluto
9-Jupiter Trine Saturn
10-Sun conjunct Venus
11-Venus trine Ascendant
12-Sun trine Ascendant

Bad??

1-Moon Square Mars
2-Sun Square Jupiter
3-Sun Square Pluto
4-Sun Square Uranus
5-Sun Square NN
6-Mercury Square Chiron
7-Venus Square Saturn
8-Venus Opposite Neptune
9-Venus Square Pluto
10-Venus Square NN
11-Mars Square Jupiter
12-Mars opposite NN (conjunct SN)
13-Saturn opposite NN (conjunct SN)

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posted November 06, 2012 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's like meeting an old friend at a park one day, then the goodbye prolongs with meaningful tears and the feeling of watching someone tear your childhood glow worm to shreds while you turn around and give each other one last look, you sit in your car and think "I can't let go" , but you sense freedom like somethings better is coming in a weird way so you start the car and drive off with the magnet pull trying to trick you to drive back to each other

It's hard.
souls get attached, and that's all it is.

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posted November 06, 2012 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JLyn ~:
It's like meeting an old friend at a park one day, then the goodbye prolongs with meaningful tears and the feeling of watching someone tear your childhood glow worm to shreds while you turn around and give each other one last look, you sit in your car and think "I can't let go" , but you sense freedom like somethings better is coming in a weird way so you start the car and drive off with the magnet pull trying to trick you to drive back to each other

It's hard.
souls get attached, and that's all it is.


Soooooo true.

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posted November 06, 2012 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mandy pie:
You guys saying that it ended for you- did you have any saturn contacts between you?

Yes. The guy whose moon is conjunct my SN:

His Saturn is trine my Venus-Neptune conjunction, trine my Jupiter, sextile my Mars and Pluto.

Guy whose Mars is conjunct my SN:

Saturn trine my moon.

I don't think anyone ever betrayed me as horribly as that guy did.

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posted November 06, 2012 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mandy pie:
Hmmm. Your post confused me even more. I guess it's hard to tell. In synastry These two have:

Good:

1-Moon Trine Saturn
2-Mercury Trine Neptune
3-Mercury Sextile Pluto
4-Mercury Trine NN
5-Venus Trine Pluto
6-Venus Conjunct Venus
7-Venus Sextile NN
8-Mars conjunct Pluto
9-Jupiter Trine Saturn
10-Sun conjunct Venus
11-Venus trine Ascendant
12-Sun trine Ascendant

Bad??

1-Moon Square Mars
2-Sun Square Jupiter
3-Sun Square Pluto
4-Sun Square Uranus
5-Sun Square NN
6-Mercury Square Chiron
7-Venus Square Saturn
8-Venus Opposite Neptune
9-Venus Square Pluto
10-Venus Square NN
11-Mars Square Jupiter
12-Mars opposite NN (conjunct SN)
13-Saturn opposite NN (conjunct SN)


I think the Venus conjunct Venus might explain why they are together, they probably feel close in a way that an outside observer might not understand. Sun conjunct Venus is another sweet thing, Mercury-Neptune gives a bit of telepathy, Saturn-Jupiter makes the good times last long.

Venus square Saturn might be the tension that you see, that baffles you as to why they are together. And moon square Mars might be a real downer.

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posted November 06, 2012 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EEEEK I hope not... My moon is conjunct his SN

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Sun in Virgo conjunct Venus ( 11th House )
Moon in Libra
Rising sign Libra

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posted November 06, 2012 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My biological mother's Sun is conj my south node in Leo in the 4th. She abandoned me and then offically disowned me later in life.......I don't think I was meant to have a parent-child (family) relationship with her.

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posted November 06, 2012 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have had Moon conjunct SN with three men (in a serious relationship) and more in casual/dating relationships as well as several women (because my 12th H Moon conjuncts my own SN).

The longest a relationship lasted for me with this conjunction is three years. That pretty much includes women too.

Now if/when I see that conjunction I generally assume that there's a learning curve involved and I should not get too attached. Moon is in Taurus, after all

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posted November 06, 2012 05:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mandy pie:
You guys saying that it ended for you- did you have any saturn contacts between you?


the one with moon(and jupiter) on my SN, has his sun,venus,mercury sextile my saturn.
the mars guy: my saturn conjuncts his NN, his saturn conjuncts my NN. His venus opposes my saturn. His saturn opposes my moon.

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posted November 06, 2012 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Long - standing     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husbands Pluto is on my South Node (and he is a Scorpio), when we met i felt that I knew him (in fact he was a prototype of my favourite book hero )). So his image was in my head from the school.

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posted November 06, 2012 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Long - standing     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another guy, with whome i ended had his Merc (and he was Virgin) on my South Node, but we had Moon/Sun Moon conjunction, and Sat./Pluto opposite SunMoon, very intense relations and very painful

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posted November 06, 2012 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mandy pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by geea:
the one with moon(and jupiter) on my SN, has his sun,venus,mercury sextile my saturn.
the mars guy: my saturn conjuncts his NN, his saturn conjuncts my NN. His venus opposes my saturn. His saturn opposes my moon.

Wow- you had lots of sextiles with Saturn with the guy with moon/jupiter on you south node and you guys aren't even friends now? That's interesting. Perhaps the nodes are just as strong in their power as saturn is.

The one with mars conjunct your south node doesn't surprise me. In my experience relationships that have mostly negative saturn contacts (squares oppositions) to personal planets are often rife with problems and end. In my own life I've found that when people's saturns have too many squares to my planets they eventually betray me or stab me in the back. I think this is because saturn signifies "sticking" by the other person and being loyal to them and the Square can eventually cause the opposite affect to occur.

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posted November 06, 2012 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GirlinSeattle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JLyn ~:
It's like meeting an old friend at a park one day, then the goodbye prolongs with meaningful tears and the feeling of watching someone tear your childhood glow worm to shreds while you turn around and give each other one last look, you sit in your car and think "I can't let go" , but you sense freedom like somethings better is coming in a weird way so you start the car and drive off with the magnet pull trying to trick you to drive back to each other

This is the perfect analogy to describe significant South Node contacts. It's difficult, and it's attractive, yet at the same time, I felt like I was held back in terms of emotional and spiritual growth. It's as if we both reinforced each other's positive and negative sides rather than forcing each other to change and adapt. Ew. It was gross.

If I could re-live the last 8 years of my life, I wouldn't even touch that relationship with a 10-foot pole. We've been taking each other back as friends countless times in the last 10 months. I recently permanently broke any sort of contact off, and it felt like a huge weight was lifted off my shoulder. Yet at the same time, I do miss him, but I know it's all an illusion because every time I get to "know" him again, I can't stand him. I've definitely "outgrown" him, in this regard, even though he's older in physical years.

Between my ex and me:
Venus conjunct SN
Saturn conjunct SN
Neptune conjunct SN
Venus square Saturn (tight orb of 0 degrees)

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I had Saturn conjunct south node with my ex and the connection and the intimacy was so intense. I miss him every single day, even though he was a real sh**head and all of my friends and even a few of his can attest to that. It is honestly the hardest bond I think either of us has ever had to break. It started out beautifully and we became very codependent and it just got more and more toxic and painful overtime. I have had to sever even our friendship (which was very difficult as the bond still exists) because I know that the toxicity is still there and will always be, it'll never be a healthy relationship of any sort. I have to say that I'm wary of karmic relationships now.

I can say that I learned a lot about myself and what I need from relationships.

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quote:
Originally posted by JLyn ~:
It's like meeting an old friend at a park one day, then the goodbye prolongs with meaningful tears and the feeling of watching someone tear your childhood glow worm to shreds while you turn around and give each other one last look, you sit in your car and think "I can't let go" , but you sense freedom like somethings better is coming in a weird way so you start the car and drive off with the magnet pull trying to trick you to drive back to each other

It's hard.
souls get attached, and that's all it is.


This.

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What about NN relationships, you guys? Any insight? My bf and I have NN conjunct NN with a somewhat wide orb (4 degrees).

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posted November 07, 2012 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mandy pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
What about NN relationships, you guys? Any insight? My bf and I have NN conjunct NN with a somewhat wide orb (4 degrees).

I don't think NN conjunct NN is really significant, but NN conjunct personal planets is supposed to be very good for the node person.

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posted November 07, 2012 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will say this. South Node is supposedly where you've been and what you already know, and are supposed to be working your way AWAY from. North Node is your goal, the direction you're supposed to be headed in.

So yeah, South Node contacts will probably feel familiar but really that's not the direction you're supposed to be headed in, in the first place.Having said that, I wouldn't go so far as to say that every relationship with SN contacts in synastry must end or is supposed to end...unless there's some kind of hard aspects from one person's planets (maybe their Saturn) to the other person's North Node, because then it could play out as them preventing the other person from developing into what they were meant to be, whether intentionally or not.

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