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Ami Anne
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posted November 09, 2012 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At night, I count Astrological aspects, instead of sheep

I was thinking about this last night. I have a Libra Ascendent and I seem to be able to stand up where many people cannot.

I am not bragging about myself, just wondering about the Cardinal Ascendent, in terms of this.

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posted November 09, 2012 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not really, that sounds more like a fixed axis trait than a cardinal one - stubbornness, fixity, seeing things through to the end.

Where planets are concerned it sounds more like a Pluto type of thing - strength, power. Probably in aspect to Mercury (the thought processes) or moon (the emotions).

To some extent other sites back me up on this as well because I saw Moon-Pluto mentioned once as meaning "hard to kill".

Strong Uranus would make someone able to swim against the tide (at any cost), too.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 09, 2012 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StacyLewis:
Not really, that sounds more like a fixed axis trait than a cardinal one - stubbornness, fixity, seeing things through to the end.

Where planets are concerned it sounds more like a Pluto type of thing - strength, power. Probably in aspect to Mercury (the thought processes) or moon (the emotions).

To some extent other sites back me up on this as well because I saw Moon-Pluto mentioned once as meaning "hard to kill".

Strong Uranus would make someone able to swim against the tide (at any cost), too.



Thanks Stacey
I have Pluto sextile Merc(3 deg)
Pluto sextile the Sun( 4 deg)

It has taken me some time to be able to stand up( a lot of time ) but I can now. I bet it took time due to the sextile, as it has to be worked on, while the trine is free lol


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posted November 09, 2012 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YEP, since it rules Aries/Mars that seems about right.
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posted November 09, 2012 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrofan123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StacyLewis:
Not really, that sounds more like a fixed axis trait than a cardinal one - stubbornness, fixity, seeing things through to the end.

Where planets are concerned it sounds more like a Pluto type of thing - strength, power. Probably in aspect to Mercury (the thought processes) or moon (the emotions).

To some extent other sites back me up on this as well because I saw Moon-Pluto mentioned once as meaning "hard to kill".

Strong Uranus would make someone able to swim against the tide (at any cost), too.


I agree. the whole chart. husband is Gemini rising and he is doing fine standing up for himself. and yes he has Pluto conjunct Moon in Virgo. I'll look up the other placements and aspects he has.
as Scorpio rising I grew up in abusive environment I learned to persevere and only act when it's too far. Pluto quincunx Moon very wide orb though

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posted November 09, 2012 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
At night, I count Astrological aspects, instead of sheep

I was thinking about this last night. I have a Libra Ascendent and I seem to be able to stand up where many people cannot.

I am not bragging about myself, just wondering about the Cardinal Ascendent, in terms of this.


I do the same thing!

When my p. AC went into cancer I became more assertive about my boundaries and my rights, I totally thought it was bc of the cardinal AC.

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posted November 10, 2012 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My AC is Aries...I stand up for myself almost always. And I stand up for others - even if its to my own detriment (Aqua Stellium). Pretty damn stoic.

I love the line about counting aspects, not sheep. You should make that a tag line on your blog Ami!

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posted November 10, 2012 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My AC is Aries...I stand up for myself almost always. And I stand up for others - even if its to my own detriment (Aqua Stellium). Pretty damn stoic.

I love the line about counting aspects, not sheep. You should make that a tag line on your blog Ami!

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posted November 10, 2012 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Wild Places!
Thanks for all the info, Friends.

I don't know what my Progressed ASC is.

I appreciate all the great info, as always

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posted November 10, 2012 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, sorry to disappoint you but that is FIXED ascendant trait not cardinal. Maybe you have Pluto well aspected. Thats a totally another story.

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posted November 10, 2012 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think a lot of it is subjective too. It can be easy to think we're the last one standing but the reality could be very different. We may be unaware of the props we're using to hold ourselves up. Some people can be very strong ~ in certain circumstances, and others would buckle. But there are times when roles are reversed.

A last man standing thing is always a fixed sign/Pluto indicator.

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posted November 10, 2012 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Ami, sorry to disappoint you but that is FIXED ascendant trait not cardinal. Maybe you have Pluto well aspected. Thats a totally another story.


No disappointment. That is why I asked

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posted November 10, 2012 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Quinny
Yes, maybe it is Pluto. I have 2 good sextiles to the Sun and Mercury. They go from the 9th House to the 11th.

I am usually standing up for my principles( 9th) in groups( 11th).

So, that must explain it.

Does that sound right to you all?

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posted November 10, 2012 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thanks Quinny
Yes, maybe it is Pluto. I have 2 good sextiles to the Sun and Mercury. They go from the 9th House to the 11th.

I am usually standing up for my principles( 9th) in groups( 11th).

So, that must explain it.

Does that sound right to you all?


Yes that would make sense

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posted November 10, 2012 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer rising... sometimes i stand for others but so far this worked against me - i lost 2 jobs by standing for my/our rights... wile the others couldn't out of fear of loosing their job... so yeh - this can get me in to trouble. ^^

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posted November 10, 2012 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Cancer rising... sometimes i stand for others but so far this worked against me - i lost 2 jobs by standing for my/our rights... wile the others couldn't out of fear of loosing their job... so yeh - this can get me in to trouble. ^^

Yes, the main way I get in trouble is standing up for people--cancer moon and mars. Sometimes, I get in trouble, on my own though

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posted November 11, 2012 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's not true. My sun, mercury and rising are in pisces. I'm one of the strongest people (Emotionally) you will ever meet. I'm very assertive and I stand up for myself MOST of the time (there are exceptions of course, there's always an exception). Everyone who knows me knows I have certain limits they are NOT allowed to cross. I give people two chances. If someone REALLY hurts me, I easily cut them out without even giving them a chance. I follow one rule in life. I don't treat people the way I want to be treated, I treat people the way they treat me. ^-^

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posted November 11, 2012 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pisces-Sweety:
That's not true. My sun, mercury and rising are in pisces. I'm one of the strongest people (Emotionally) you will ever meet. I'm very assertive and I stand up for myself MOST of the time (there are exceptions of course, there's always an exception). Everyone who knows me knows I have certain limits they are NOT allowed to cross. I give people two chances. If someone REALLY hurts me, I easily cut them out without even giving them a chance. I follow one rule in life. I don't treat people the way I want to be treated, I treat people the way they treat me. ^-^

Is your Sun rising ?

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posted November 11, 2012 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces sun\Asc.\ and mercury.

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posted November 11, 2012 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pisces-Sweety:
That's not true. My sun, mercury and rising are in pisces. I'm one of the strongest people (Emotionally) you will ever meet. I'm very assertive and I stand up for myself MOST of the time (there are exceptions of course, there's always an exception). Everyone who knows me knows I have certain limits they are NOT allowed to cross. I give people two chances. If someone REALLY hurts me, I easily cut them out without even giving them a chance. I follow one rule in life. I don't treat people the way I want to be treated, I treat people the way they treat me. ^-^


What about your Pluto? What is on the MC? xx

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posted November 11, 2012 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Piscessweety
That sounds like an Unaspected Pluto. Do you have this? If not, Pluto conj the ASC or in the 1st.

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posted November 11, 2012 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Err.. I'm new to astrology really.. my full chart is posted here. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/216335.html

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posted November 11, 2012 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 11, 2012 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh alright.. thanks for telling me!

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posted November 11, 2012 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Capricorn Rising..Saturn RX makes for a doozy in this department.

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