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RedScorp
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posted November 12, 2012 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious as I'm playing with the percentage option on astro.com and I'm fiddling around upto -70! I kinda like it because extremist Scorpio wants to get to the very core and cut off all the frilly light aspects.

How about you guys?

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posted November 12, 2012 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha I use 100 but I love going down to like 5 percent to see what's still there

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posted November 12, 2012 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As i use asteroids as well, mostly, i have come to 35% ! But i am now exploring heliocharts, so that's why. But usually - 50-75%. When i started, i was overwhelmed and used 100% when i counted all 5 degree sextiles and stuff.

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posted November 12, 2012 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I love going down to like 5 percent to see what's still there

LOL my chart loses all of it's aspects omg

At 10 percent, tho, I regain my Venus-Saturn trine and Jupiter-Uranus sextile...

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posted November 12, 2012 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried that too - 5%.

I got Sun square Saturn
Venus trine Mars
Aphrodite trine North Node.
Juno conjunct Valentine

LOL.

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sweet-scorpion
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posted November 12, 2012 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha, at 10% I literally only have Moon in Virgo trine Neptune in Cap. Sweet. I've always identified with the Pisces Moon traits, maybe that's why. ESPECIALLY this one: "When they feel unappreciated, they can retreat into a fantasy world that is may be hard to let go." [--alwaysastrology.com] At 5% I have nothing except a semi-square from Merc to Moon.

Sadly enough I checked my BF's and his strongest aspect at 5% orb was a quincunx from Saturn to Venus-Mercury.

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posted November 12, 2012 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha! Actually, I had never really put the orbs down as far as 10%. I only have Venus trine Uranus if I do that and that's including a whole bunch of asteroids.

Interesting too since I have been contemplating Uranus in my chart so much lately and that is clearly the most precise aspect.

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posted November 12, 2012 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Truthfully? I usually go with the default setting on Astrodienst, because I actually do feel/experience the wider-orbed aspects, even the ones as large as nine or ten degrees. I don't think it's necessarily true that only the tightest aspects "count".

However I did play around with a smaller orb yesterday - I stuck "30" in the orb field and pulled up a few synastry and composite charts. I think it makes more sense to keep the orbs super-tight in those types of charts than in natals, especially when you consider that not everybody has a natal chart full of tight aspects. Then, if you whittle it down to only aspects with a three degree orb or less, there's really not a whole lot of "chart" left and a lot of what describes and defines that person, goes missing in an astrological sense.

I think another instance where smaller orbs are appropriate is in asteroid research, whether in a natal, synastry, or composite chart. But when it comes to a natal chart in general, I don't believe in the only "right" orbs being the tight ones.

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posted November 13, 2012 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mandy pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree. The wider orbs are also felt.

However it's nice to shrink the orbs to see what aspect has the strongest influence in a relationship (synastry). The tighter the aspect the more that aspect is felt in the relationship.

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posted November 13, 2012 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends on what I'm looking at, too.

Sun in major aspect to Moon?
10 degrees.

Chiron aspecting something?
Like 2d.

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posted November 13, 2012 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's how tight obs are measured ^^ - tight orbs show strong influences... the default value on Astrodienst of 100% stands for 10 degree orbs... recommended for major aspects - but some prefer to use only 30% - 50% as in 3 - 5 degree orbs and 10% - 20% (1 - 2 degree) for minor aspects - which can be as strong as major ones at those values (a Bi-Quintil for example)...

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posted November 13, 2012 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mandy pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
speaking of astrodienst... you know how when you do a synastry chart and above the chart there are two small links... I forget what the first link does, but the second link takes you to a detailed pdf table showing what aspects occur between the two people. I find that the pdf table often shows aspects that the actual drawing of the chart doesn't. Perhaps the pdf table uses larger orbs? Anyone notice this?

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posted November 13, 2012 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I go by if I feel the aspect or not. I've felt some synastry and composite aspects as wide as 10 degrees with with my wife.

I don't agree with the whole only super tight orbs count either, nor do I agree with the reasoning behind it. The reasoning behind it is usually, only super tight orbs count because the wider the orb, the more people you'd have that connection with so the tighter the orb, the rarer the connection. I RESPECTFULLY and humbly don't agree with that. For one, lets say you had a 6 degree trine with someone between two personal planets. The orb police will say that it doesn't count because you'd have that aspect with millions of people.

However, in one's lifetime, do you really meet millions of people? I'd say its a stretch to say one would ever even come in contact with a few hundred thousand people in a lifetime. So, you even though you may share that aspect with millions of people, do you think you'd come in contact with each and every one of them?

Would there be any attraction one way, let alone mutual with all millions of them? I doubt it! Most people may date maybe 50 people (not talking about one night stands, i'm talking about dating) in their life (and thats a high estimate for most people) and of those, only few of those relationships actually are meaningful to one or both of the people. So with that said, I think that when you feel you have a connection with someone, I think all aspects count, its only when the orbs get wide enough to go into another harmonic that you should say, okay that doesn't count.

And to take it a step further, I humbly believe synastry aspects are activated by attraction. Meaning, if John is attracted to Jane, he feels the synastry. If the attraction is mutual, they both feel the synastry. If neither are attracted to each other, and have no interest in dealing with each other (think two random people walking down the street who happen to pass each other with no contact), then no amount of 0˚ aspects will bring the two together.

Thats just my take on things.

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posted November 13, 2012 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't agree with the whole only super tight orbs count either

Got Gemini, I'm gonna make an example out you, don't take offence, but hey everyone! No one said that only super tight orbs apply. Peachbeigeblue and people consecutively were checking their charts at 10% for fun, as far as I can tell. I personally doubt aspects at 8+ degrees, which is why I like to go down to 70%.

But otherwise, I think everyone here agrees that orbs can apply beyond, you know, one degree. And, I think everyone here has the discriminative capability to not follow in line with what one person said (which itself was based off of an incorrect assumption of what others were doing).

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posted November 13, 2012 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Got Gemini, I'm gonna make an example out you, don't take offence, but hey everyone! [b]No one said that only super tight orbs apply. Peachbeigeblue and people consecutively were checking their charts at 10% for fun, as far as I can tell. I personally doubt aspects at 8+ degrees, which is why I like to go down to 70%.

But otherwise, I think everyone here agrees that orbs can apply beyond, you know, one degree. And, I think everyone here has the discriminative capability to not follow in line with what one person said (which itself was based off of an incorrect assumption of what others were doing).[/B]


This is funny lol, I wasn't going off what anyone in the thread said. In the past, there have been some heated debates over orbs on Lindaland. That has nothing to do with this thread though, it just made me think of some of those other threads. I was speaking in general. My bad, I probably should have stated that. Not trying to stir the pot at all! To be clear, I do sometimes put the orb value down just to play around and see what's there and what isn't.


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posted November 13, 2012 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Not trying to stir the pot at all!

That's my job...

(But really, people saying that they think wide orbs apply too and it's like, what, no one said that they didn't. And that's what I was trying to get across, )

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Got Gemini??
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posted November 13, 2012 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
That's my job...

(But really, people saying that they think wide orbs apply too and it's like, what, no one said that they didn't. And that's what I was trying to get across, )


U r just awesomeness incarnate lol

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posted November 13, 2012 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geez,

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posted November 14, 2012 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maelstrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
Haha I use 100 but I love going down to like 5 percent to see what's still there

I must have some pretty full on traits as even at 5% I still have four aspects; Mercury trine Jupiter, Mercury sextile Venus, Node trine Moon and Venus opposite Jupiter!!

I am guessing this means that these aspects are most apparent in my personality...?

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posted November 14, 2012 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have read that the orbs should be bigger for natals than for synastry. One site I came across said they only use 3 degree allowances for comparing synastry charts.

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posted November 14, 2012 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
85 coz saggi mc told me to once lol! The habit stuck. I do not know synastry.

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posted November 15, 2012 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In general, 70%. I always do 70, and would only change if I were looking for something specific.

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posted November 15, 2012 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I take into account everything. Orb wise for natal up to 60 percent and for synastry up to 70 in cases of Double whammies or major aspects hitting multiple angles and luminaries.

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