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Topic: Do All Natal Venus In 12th Cheat?
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Ann7
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posted November 18, 2012 01:58 AM
  
Seriously. I seem to fall hard for this placement and end up getting burned after a long exhausting process of being made to feel that my fears and intuition are irrational (only to find out I was right all along). I'm not saying that 12th house venus are bad people (actually very loving) they just seem to have issues with cheating and secrecy. I'd love to hear everyones take on this... What's more I hope to hear someone with a positive story that dispels my myth. IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted November 18, 2012 08:01 PM
Anyone?  IP: Logged |
virgolotus
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posted November 18, 2012 08:51 PM
I'm a 12th house Venus and I'm doomed when it comes to Love :-)Thanks, that is all. IP: Logged |
Mandy pie
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posted November 18, 2012 08:53 PM
Every person I've known with this placement cheats extensively on their wives.But I've only known 4 people with this placement, so... for what it's worth. None of them were in a romantic relationship with me thank goodness. IP: Logged |
violet7887
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posted November 18, 2012 08:57 PM
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The love you seek, you will find within.IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted November 18, 2012 09:13 PM
Virgolotus please tell me more!
Thank you for the input, guys! It sucks that this is the general scenario but it's nice to know I'm not alone.IP: Logged |
violet7887
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posted November 18, 2012 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by virgolotus:
I'm a 12th house Venus and I'm doomed when it comes to Love :-)Thanks, that is all.
lol, you are so cute. i hope you find what fits you best  IP: Logged |
Evolved1
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From: Chicago, IL USA
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 18, 2012 09:53 PM
I have Venus in Aqua 12th house. No way am I a cheater, never have been either.Viroglotos, this one's for you..I was told this and could not agree more..
"It's gotta be deep, it's gotta have a spiritual bond flavor to it and theres always a sacrifice appeal to all their relationships but not necessarily in a torture way, but in a tattooed compassionate glow around the heart, way.
Embrace it."
Exactly!!! This
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted November 18, 2012 10:14 PM
Sorry, but my view is that it's plain nonsense. I'll be married for 20 years next May. A simple happy dedicated and loving marriage devoid of drama. I neither have the inclination, energy, time nor resources for such nonsense. 20 years of monogamy, and i intend to keep it this way in perpetuity. Of course I love my spouse, but even if I didn't, you wouldn't find me trying to hide anything. The stereotypical sweeping statements are often unfounded. I'm male btw. I understand that husbands are convenient targets of smack talk, but please consider that not all men are scoundrels, even if it is fashionable to espouse that. IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted November 18, 2012 11:12 PM
Actually, it's refreshing to hear a positive spin on Venus in the 12th. But I have to ask you both, even though you've been faithful can you say that your heart has been honestly 100% in your relationship? Have either of you harbored strong feelings for someone other than your significant other and suppressed it due to not wanting to hurt your spouse?This is in no way meant disrespectfully - I'm curious as this is also a common 12th house myth. IP: Logged |
cappy1277
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From: philadelphia,pa
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted November 19, 2012 12:17 AM
The effects of a 12th house Venus on the negative side is symbolic of someone who is not evolved...spiritually or emotionally. Venus in the 12th house is in a exalted placement...spiritual & strong emotional attachments which carry a piscean flavor. It would be symbolic of someone that enjoys a relationship free of drama & turmoil as these people would be extremely sensitive when in relationships. I think the development of secret affairs would be left up to synastry aspects more often. IP: Logged |
Emsie
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From: Budapest
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 19, 2012 12:58 AM
I'm 100% faithful, no cheating and mind games!IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine
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posted November 19, 2012 01:18 AM
I have 12th House Venus. I have had relationships outside of what I we all collectively believe we're supposed to have which is committed relationship. I was in my 20's and I didn't do it as a weapon against my significant other. My relationship history in my teens included a great deal of deprivation of what I call "necessary sexuality practice" because of the community that I grew up in. I am a ethnic culture than the popular ethnicity I grew up around and it was not an option for me to date the guys that I was attracted to/fell in love with, in school. When I did get a regular boyfriend at the age of 20, I stayed in the relationship much too long because it was about longevity to me, I didn't stay in love but then "idealism" and "moralism" dictated that I stay in it. I travelled and out of the country a few times and it was immediate that I was seduced and allowed myself to experience other men. My significant other never found out about it and I didn't have the urge to tell him because it was never about him.Long story short, the way I see it now is that I should not have been so attached to someone at a time in life when most young people are experimenting and allowing themselves to just be free and party, etc. Now I think of my 12th House Venus as a challenge to think higher about love or to go deeper into my philosophy about love, but not in a deceptive way about myself or with the others that I choose to be involved with. Everyone is not meant to have that "ideal" monogamy. There's nothing wrong with it but the challenge is to understand that there's nothing "wrong" with me or the way God presents love relationship opportunities to me. I am NOT doomed in love just because I have a 12th House Venus. I invite you to rise to the challenge and the gift that is 12th House Venus. Don't lock yourself down with love because the energy of it is the most important energy in the universe. That's my 2 cents. IP: Logged |
Ann7
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From: united states
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 19, 2012 05:22 AM
I agree with a lot of what you said Geocosmic. I don't think monogamy is for everyone. In the instances that I've experienced the sting of infidelity at the hands of a 12th house venus, it was never malicious (selfish, yes but aimed to hurt me - no). It's seems to be in the persons nature. I do realize that a lot more goes into it than just one house placement. I just noticed a pattern with this particular one and wanted to hear real life takes on it. I thank everyone for the input (and was quite happy to hear that there are a lot of 12th venus that have remained faithful). IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted November 19, 2012 05:23 AM
Also, I need to add that I have certain placements in my chart that read as me being prone to bad luck with relationships so go figure, lol. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted November 19, 2012 07:57 AM
Yes I have strong feelings for many, including most of my ex-relationships. I constantly talk about them. The difference is that my wife knows all my ex-girlfriends, is friends with most of them, and she has done due diligence on every single female on my social networking sites. She's better than the CIA, and so anyone who is female who wants to be my friend is scrubbed down completely in terms of background and intent. My wife pretty much ignores the young women because she knows me better than anyone and knows what makes me tick, and that I need the intellectual companionship and achievement that young women cannot provide. And she piles on more sex than my body can handle, and has done so since we were married 20 years ago, so sex isn't on my mind. Plus, my wife is gifted in appearances, so pastures on the other side of the fence are seldom greener. I reiterate that it's next to impossible to replace someone whom you know intimately well when the fundamental compatibility is solid. In fact, one of my closest ex-girlfriends is the Godmother of my two sons and she dotes on my sons. Another one is one of my family doctors who has on occasion examined me on the table, and it's not as though she hasn't ever seen me naked (she is married to another doctor, my college classmate, with five children for crying out loud). So much for hiding relationships. Do I love many women? Sure I do. I loved my mom and my mom-in-law (both have passed) while loving my wife, right? No. I don't have love for one woman only, but I would go to hell and back for just one woman. I hope that's good enough. IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted November 19, 2012 09:22 AM
YoursTruly, I love how open you are with your wife! I would probably feel more settled if my sig other was as open, especially since I put everything out there myself. Like you, I am close with several of my ex's and I have several male friends. I do not hide anything because I know how it feels to be on the receiving end - it breeds mistrust. It seems that you are blessed with an amazing relationship. It's good to hear a positive side. I guess when it's all said and done, we are all human just some of us are more evolved than others. IP: Logged |
virgolotus
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posted November 19, 2012 11:42 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Evolved1:
I have Venus in Aqua 12th house. No way am I a cheater, never have been either.Viroglotos, this one's for you..I was told this and could not agree more..
"It's gotta be deep, it's gotta have a spiritual bond flavor to it and theres always a sacrifice appeal to all their relationships but not necessarily in a torture way, but in a tattooed compassionate glow around the heart, way.
Embrace it."
Exactly!!! This
Aww, thanks for this. :*)
I have Venus sq. Neptune so most of the time I feel it's something deep and get lost in my idealism~ *sigh* IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted November 19, 2012 01:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ann7:
YoursTruly, I love how open you are with your wife! I would probably feel more settled if my sig other was as open, especially since I put everything out there myself. Like you, I am close with several of my ex's and I have several male friends. I do not hide anything because I know how it feels to be on the receiving end - it breeds mistrust. It seems that you are blessed with an amazing relationship. It's good to hear a positive side. I guess when it's all said and done, we are all human just some of us are more evolved than others.
I musn't take too much credit. The truth is that my wife is both fiercely protective and also intensely jealous. She's better than the CIA at digging up the dirt and better than the KGB at dispensing punishment. As I mentioned, every female is scrubbed down to the max for intent and background. My wife knows my passwords to every social media site and e-mail account, even if I keep unique passwords. She checks cookies on my windows history folder. To a certain extent, I'm this way as well, but definitely not as skilled as her. The underlying message is that it is important to be involved in each others' lives.
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virgolotus
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posted November 19, 2012 02:19 PM
I agree with everything you've said and also experienced it, Geocosmic* Valentine.
I feel Pisces are the same when it comes to Love. People see them as flakey or cheats but it's not that at all and they have no intentions of hurting their lover.IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
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Registered: Apr 2012
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posted November 19, 2012 11:41 PM
I have Pluto in my 12th, which disposits my Venus in Scorpio... and trust me... I have felt MANY times as if I were born with 12th house Venus from this draining and trying placement. It makes my Venus act a lot like a 12th house Venus in many instances and it doesn't help my Venus is in the Pisces decan/duad either. So yeah. Always soul searching for this spiritual union that will make me want to cry with significance and peacefulness that will probably never happen. Frequently lost in the past nostalgia of happier times with old lovers, taken advantage of emotionally for my good will many, many times by emotional vampires in love/dating. Never quite satisfied with normality, and infatuated with an all consuming spiritual submersion with another person. Want to just feel I can unburden myself to them and vice versa... want to dream with them and share vivid dreams together. A lot of Neptunian fantasizing here. A somewhat 'wandering eye' but only out of wistfulness to exchange my heart with someone who might fulfill me more, and sometimes because I grow sexually restless due to Pluto touching Mars, but I am too pure at heart and loyal to act on my feelings from Scorpio. So that answers the cheat question. Pretty much sums up the grand angst of this one... sigh IP: Logged |
JLyn ~
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posted November 20, 2012 04:08 AM
Once, but I wasn't in love and I was tricked.Venus sits in my 12th IP: Logged |
pandacake
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Registered: May 2011
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posted November 20, 2012 05:30 AM
Nope, I'm still with my first boyfriend who is also my best friend. I've known him for 8 years and we've been together for 5 years now. I know it's not super long but I can't imagine loving someone more. I consider myself very blessed for having someone who loves me just as much.
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There's no other person that I secretly admire, and I'm 100% loyal, mentally physically.Talking about H12 themes; I was in an arranged marriage with a guy (whom I've never ever met) and I had to keep my relationship with my bf secret from my family. That's the "clandestine affair" part, I think.
Maybe this is also the effect of Venus square Saturn (and Saturn bQ Mars *cries*): gradually my bf went from a strong healthy person who's visited the doctor only twice in his life to someone who is almost constantly ill. I lost count of many times he had to be hospitalised. However mentally, he's never been stronger. We'll get through these obstacles no matter what.
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted November 20, 2012 08:28 AM
^^ Thanks for sharing, pandacake. Lots of happiness to you guys.IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted November 20, 2012 08:53 AM
Ditto to what YoursTruly said - keeping you both in positive thoughts.I'm open to and appreciate all interpretations (that's how you learn) but reading comments like yours are what gives me hope and makes me smile. IP: Logged |
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