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sand
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posted November 23, 2012 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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We first need to understand what is the meaning of the word ‘compatibility’. Compatibility in BaZi does not mean attraction - rather, it means that you have a connection with each other. At a basic level, you ‘get along’. This variety of compatibility is quite different from the western concept of ‘The One’ or soul-mate that many people are familiar with when it comes to romantic relationships. In BaZi, many people can be ‘The One’, so the focus in BaZi is not on WHO this person is, but what qualities this person has, so that you can ‘pick them out’ when they arrive on the scene so to speak.

attraction factors - elements in a person that draw us to them. But attraction is not the only reason why you settle down with someone or chose to spend the rest of your life with someone. Attraction factors explain why we are drawn to someone, whilst compatibility indicates whether or not we can be in a long-term relationship with someone. When it comes to relationships, attraction and compatibility have to be considered along with the overall question of whether or not the person is suited to a long-term relationship or marriage. Sometimes, some people just aren’t the marrying kind or they just aren’t in the right frame of mind, or time in their life, when they should be getting married.


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posted November 23, 2012 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So in western what shows either?

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posted November 24, 2012 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm this is what i learned about synastry so far....

you never know. lol.

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posted November 24, 2012 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 24, 2012 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dont know the truth...

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SaturnineMoth
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posted November 24, 2012 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
would compatibility be read in Western through the elements - fem/masc polarities - and houses - and the attraction would show more within the aspects - synastries themselves?

I've pondered on this since you posted~ I'm still not quite sure how they'd both stand together or apart in Western astrology~ I want to say it doesn't work the same per se~ that Harmonics, and alternate charts would be needed/prove more useful... but I don't think attraction can be fully measured by Western astrology, but I think compatibility can...

~~~~~~~~ I may change my opinion in the next 3 minutes~ I have the mind of a goldfish,so's ya kno~ ^^;

interesting concept all the same~ TY for sharing~ Sand

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posted November 24, 2012 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by violet7887:
i dont know the truth...

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posted November 24, 2012 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
would compatibility be read in Western through the elements - fem/masc polarities - and houses - and the attraction would show more within the aspects - synastries themselves?

I've pondered on this since you posted~ I'm still not quite sure how they'd both stand together or apart in Western astrology~ I want to say it doesn't work the same per se~ that Harmonics, and alternate charts would be needed/prove more useful... but I don't think attraction can be fully measured by Western astrology, but I think compatibility can...

~~~~~~~~ I may change my opinion in the next 3 minutes~ I have the mind of a goldfish,so's ya kno~ ^^;

interesting concept all the same~ TY for sharing~ Sand


U know that's not a bad theory.. But then some people like me like to clash with partners..

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posted November 24, 2012 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Western for me goes deeper than bazi especially the psychological factors involved so if anything this is the area where it should shine..

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posted November 24, 2012 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, agreed.

I have had several theories, but nothing practi cal, over the years on that.

Right now I am thinking that compatibility could have more to do with the comparision of the natal charts.

For example: two people with Air Moons (actually I found the Moons very often at least in compatible signs in lasting happy relationships - it is not a 100% rule, but it seems to help) might be compatible on the emotional level (very generally speaking! Of course you ahve to take into account the aspects of the Moon, the fourth house etc.).

But my Aquarius-Moon might be mor compatible to a Libra Moon with Moon conjunct Uranus than with a Cancer Moon trine Neptune.


Attraction on the other hand seems to be more a kind of actual synastric aspects, not all of them (some may be more prone to be descriptive of compatibility than attraction, like Moon-Moon aspects for example).

However there are some I have found to be usually indicative of attraction (paying attention to); Lotiswhite pretty much summed them up in her thread.
especially the aspects to the rulers of the 5th house seem to indicate that inital spark of attraction (though 7th house appears to be more relationship oriented and 8th house goes much deeper).

Also, if you have Yin-Yang-combinations, there is usually a zing, a spark of attraction.


If that Yin-Yang-combination happens on the natal level. Let`s say I have Venus square Pluto, you have MArs opposite Pluto (no idea if you have, just an example). There might be an attraction on the basis of our personal patterns. I am not sure though if it is enough to relate to actual chemistry. So far it seems - no aspects - no action.
There might be a curiosity and some resonance, but without aspects, we might never do anything about it. It just seems like a good idea, but noone gets active.


On the other hand strong attraction interaspects coupled with basic natal incompatibility or at least without resonating natal placements, might either be shallow or a flash in the pan, or sometimes actually might switch over into rejection mode (attraction and repulsion are just like the minus and plus pole of the same magnet: attention).


And if the interaspects resonate with one person, while don`t with the other person (or only one person has their Venus, Mars, 5th, 7th or 8th house activated) we might have the ingredients to a totally onesided attraction (though the other person might still want to be in a relationship with the first one, but for other reasons than love or attraction).


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posted November 24, 2012 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:


You can`t handle the truth!


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