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Topic: Saturn/Capricorn and feelings.
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hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 2789 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 26, 2012 11:28 PM
Does moon in capricorn, or moon aspecting Saturn (no matter the aspect) tend to lean towards being ashamed of their feelings or hard accepting their own feelings?IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 987 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted November 26, 2012 11:48 PM
Maybe only if it's badly aspected. I'm very honest about my feelings and I can easily express myself. Often I intentionally express myself - because I think others should know exactly where I stand on things. The closest aspect to my Moon is Moon sextile Mercury (exact!). The only other aspect is a square to my Sun (6' orb). And... actually - I am generally upset about those social norms that encourage people to repress feelings or sexuality. I'm very much - morally against this (Jupiter in Pisces!) IP: Logged |
StacyLewis Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 26, 2012 11:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Does moon in capricorn, or moon aspecting Saturn (no matter the aspect) tend to lean towards being ashamed of their feelings or hard accepting their own feelings?
It could extend beyond that and give an inability to handle emotions, period, or repressing emotions, or finding them distasteful in some way, both in themselves and in others. At the same time though, like Odette said, I think that would be more likely if the aspects were hard ones, rather than a neutral one like a conjunction, or a positive one, like a sextile or trine, which would probably just make someone take emotions really seriously. IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 271 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 27, 2012 12:24 AM
i'm moon in cap; it's well-aspected to my venus and mercury, but is a very difficult placement nonetheless. emotions are not shameful to me, but they rarely come out - i prefer to deal with them privately, repress them, or just struggle with the feelings until they go away. but the emotions are felt very deeply. i think cap moon cries buckets in private but would never shed a tear in public. it's such a stoic placement that emotional expression is like showing weakness to others, and that's not something a cap wants. and watching others be emotional is a bit of a turn-off - it means they lack control over themselves and when i am emotional that is how i feel ... loss of controlIP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 8867 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 27, 2012 12:39 AM
The Mysterious Capricorn Moon Strikes Again I must be the only Capricorn Moon alive that's cried in public. On multiple occasions :laugh: What do I get to blame, my Water Sun? Moon/Pluto? Moon/Venus? Swear I wasn't drunk. Digressing just a bit.... I can be quite the inscrutable one as well. Aloof. I mean damn not everyone gets to peek inside whenever they wish; I don't want to be close to everyone in the room. Just a select few We bond. We're close. That's pretty much all I need. Not really looking to use everyone alive as my personal hankie IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 987 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted November 27, 2012 01:06 AM
quote: I must be the only Capricorn Moon alive that's cried in public.
Dude-ette!!!!! Why do I suddenly feel invisible?
LoL
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Odette Knowflake Posts: 987 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted November 27, 2012 01:08 AM
I guess.... people who are strong in water - are more likely to be emotionally expressive. People who are not - might have issues with it.Lonake & I are pretty Neptunian! IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 987 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted November 27, 2012 01:09 AM
quote: emotional expression is like showing weakness to others
I think it's a strength... especially for a woman... but for anyone. Because showing emotion is the best way to gather support and get everyone on your side. Emotional speakers are much more convincing - for example. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 8867 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 27, 2012 01:18 AM
:happydance: Odette are you another Capricorn Moon outsider? We're hanging out here: IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Poland Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 27, 2012 01:19 AM
Libra Moon square Capricorn Saturn. Pretty often I repress and hide my feelings/emotions, especially if there's a risk of being hurt. I wouldn't be the first to confess love. I hate being out of control. When I get tricked, I'm angry with myself cause "I should've known better". I don't wanna anyone see or hear me crying, it feels like being naked. My Cap Sun doesn't help. IP: Logged |
Swift Freeze Knowflake Posts: 168 From: One World Registered: Nov 2009
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posted November 27, 2012 05:28 AM
Emotion is honesty, how can that ever be a bad thing? Sure contextually it can be seen as a bad or evil thing. When taken in the context of some of the awful things people can do to each other, like violence, murder, and larger atrocities like genocide or racial prejudice which are based on emotions.However, as long as someone is being emotionally honest, at least with me, I am far more inclined to want to listen to them and share a conversation or moment with them. As Odette pointed out, emotional speakers tend to garner far more listeners and support than placid speakers. I've been told i'm a good speaker, although I tend to shy away public speaking. However, if I am passionate about something it will show in my voice, expression and choice of words. I myself have a Gemini moon which traditionally is considered a poor and difficult placement for the moon. However, I might have some problems being emotionally open with my more private feelings, I also Venus in Scorpio, I tend to be emotionally honest and am not afraid of expressing it. - Chris EDIT - I am a Capricorn Saturn with my Moon opposed to it by a wide-ish orb. ------------------ Learn lots. Don't judge. Laugh for no reason. Be nice. Seek Happiness. Follow your dreams. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2237 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 27, 2012 05:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Libra Moon square Capricorn Saturn. Pretty often I repress and hide my feelings/emotions, especially if there's a risk of being hurt. I wouldn't be the first to confess love. I hate being out of control. When I get tricked, I'm angry with myself cause "I should've known better". I don't wanna anyone see or hear me crying, it feels like being naked. My Cap Sun doesn't help.
Are you.. me?
Moon opp Saturn, although the orb is wide. I can still relate.
I pretty much don't express my emotions/feelings. And when I do they come out fiercely and usually in a negative, dramatic, explosive way (hello Moon sq Mars/Pluto). I repress, repress, repress. At times the gates open (when in a family setting especially, otherwise in public I can behave) and it's like an effin' flood of hate/rage/pain. Yea, not pretty. But it's a learning process. All the other Moon/Saturn or Cap Moon people I've known almost *never* show *any* sign of pain, sadness or anger. They usually smile easily and are very polite but I bet they have some hidden skeletons in the closet.
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 2794 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 27, 2012 09:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by Swift Freeze: Emotion is honesty, how can that ever be a bad thing? Sure contextually it can be seen as a bad or evil thing. When taken in the context of some of the awful things people can do to each other, like violence, murder, and larger atrocities like genocide or racial prejudice which are based on emotions.However, as long as someone is being emotionally honest, at least with me, I am far more inclined to want to listen to them and share a conversation or moment with them. As Odette pointed out, emotional speakers tend to garner far more listeners and support than placid speakers. I've been told i'm a good speaker, although I tend to shy away public speaking. However, if I am passionate about something it will show in my voice, expression and choice of words. I myself have a Gemini moon which traditionally is considered a poor and difficult placement for the moon. However, I might have some problems being emotionally open with my more private feelings, I also Venus in Scorpio, I tend to be emotionally honest and am not afraid of expressing it. - Chris EDIT - I am a Capricorn Saturn with my Moon opposed to it by a wide-ish orb.
Great comment. What is your sun sign, pray tell? IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 987 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted November 27, 2012 09:10 PM
quote: Emotion is honesty, how can that ever be a bad thing?
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Odette Knowflake Posts: 987 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted November 27, 2012 09:12 PM
quote: We're hanging out here:
haha LOL we sure are!! we should txt Venus di Sirius to come & hang out with us IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 2789 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 27, 2012 11:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Swift Freeze: Emotion is honesty, how can that ever be a bad thing? Sure contextually it can be seen as a bad or evil thing. When taken in the context of some of the awful things people can do to each other, like violence, murder, and larger atrocities like genocide or racial prejudice which are based on emotions.However, as long as someone is being emotionally honest, at least with me, I am far more inclined to want to listen to them and share a conversation or moment with them. As Odette pointed out, emotional speakers tend to garner far more listeners and support than placid speakers. I've been told i'm a good speaker, although I tend to shy away public speaking. However, if I am passionate about something it will show in my voice, expression and choice of words. I myself have a Gemini moon which traditionally is considered a poor and difficult placement for the moon. However, I might have some problems being emotionally open with my more private feelings, I also Venus in Scorpio, I tend to be emotionally honest and am not afraid of expressing it. - Chris EDIT - I am a Capricorn Saturn with my Moon opposed to it by a wide-ish orb.
I never thought it was a bad thing, but paired with the wrong sign (natally, such as Scorpio) and I think Capricorn can become a pressure cooker. I have Moon (Taurus) trine Saturn (Capricorn), and I find myself ignoring my feelings a lot. It may not be attributed to JUST that, however at the moment I posed this question it was the sign I was analyzing.
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sweet-scorpion Knowflake Posts: 1101 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted November 27, 2012 11:13 PM
I have my Moon in Virgo in the 9th, which I recently discovered is 'quindecile' my Saturn in Pisces in the 3rd. This aspect truly has lead me to be ashamed of my feelings at times... and extremely dedicated to communicate them better at the same time. You can see how this is almost a paradox, right? But a quindecile is an almost-opposition. It functions this way. I'm trying to learn to move beyond the depressive interactions and muted, foggy communications I had with family members growing up [3H Pisces Saturn] which lead me to be frequently depressed and crying a lot, and more in control - also Saturn, with the aspect's nature - of my emotions [represented by Virgo Moon] and able to show them to the world in a CONSTRUCTIVE way [another Virgo trait] thru writings and poetry [Moon trine Neptune]. I can be emotionally expressive, yes, but more intense emotions relaying certain things can make me ashamed and icy emotionally because I fear giving into my depressive emotional tendencies. I have a way of seeming like 'the rock'... look at the song by Simon & Garfunkel and you'll see me there. Sexuality however doesn't make me feel ashamed. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 4514 From: Surfing Kite. Seriously. Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 28, 2012 03:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: haha LOL we sure are!! we should txt Venus di Sirius to come & hang out with us
All inclusive Cap Moon club.
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Swift Freeze Knowflake Posts: 168 From: One World Registered: Nov 2009
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posted November 28, 2012 06:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Great comment. What is your sun sign, pray tell?
I can oblige oh curious one. Virgo Sun 29th degree. My Gem Moon is 29th also. quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I never thought it was a bad thing, but paired with the wrong sign (natally, such as Scorpio) and I think Capricorn can become a pressure cooker.I have Moon (Taurus) trine Saturn (Capricorn), and I find myself ignoring my feelings a lot. It may not be attributed to JUST that, however at the moment I posed this question it was the sign I was analyzing.
I can see what you are getting at with the pairing with a difficult sign. I don't think there is any necessarily wrong way to express yourself. Those people who express anger and depression mainly are struggling very much with serious issues, and most of the time they don't have an outlet or anyone to talk to. I have great admiration for people who counsel others with serious depression or talk people down from suicide. Focusing back on the topic of a "more difficult" pairing. I think some pairing's may be more inclined to freedom of expression. Having a difficult relationship between most of my major planets, I'm pretty much square central over here, and being a Scorpio Venus IV I am intensely private about my deeper feelings. However, I am more than happy to share my general feelings about books, films, ideas, day to day discourse, ideas, philosophies, and outlook on most things. everything else. I can relate somewhat, I think about what I am feeling and what it was that made me feel that way and end up asking, whether I am justified to be feeling the way I do because of what happened, usually a very personal matter. So I live in a dichotomy sometimes, of feeling, unhappy with something but thinking that I don't really have grounds to explain why I am hurting to whomever, so I tend to just keep it to myself and if I do get it out, it comes out in my writing. I feel that everyone struggles with emotions and feelings. At the very least at some point in their lives, there is something they struggle with, be it grief, anxiety, separation, love, anger, jealousy, the list goes on. There are no 'norms' when it comes to expression of emotion and that is what makes humans quintessentially fascinating. The scope for our emotions and feelings to help guide us and shape our lives. Whether we keep it to ourselves or try and shout it out to the world. - Chris
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andstuff Knowflake Posts: 874 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 28, 2012 08:33 AM
Moon in Taurus conj NN opp Saturn in Scorpio conj SNand whatever. i cry in public, wear my heart on my sleeve, don't really feel repressed about expressing feelings really whatevs the only problem i have is that i sometimes get scared of being rejected, but who cares, i havent been rejected by anyone i really wanted to be around for ages supposed to be Cap sun on top of all, but apparently zero influence IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 987 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted November 28, 2012 04:19 PM
I can't really understand a 'struggle with emotions'.. because when people say this - (I know it is a common thing to say!).. it makes it sound as though your emotions are separate in some way from who you are... and you can struggle with them.But my emotions *are* me... and I *am* my emotions... I don't really struggle with myself... I just AM lol. Is this a very Aries answer? ^ hahaha IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Poland Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 28, 2012 06:33 PM
We're not emotions, at least in my world. And I can be an emotional speaker if I WANT to.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 2794 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 29, 2012 08:10 AM
Thanks, Virgo Chris.Please post here more often, your comments are wonderful to read. IP: Logged |
Swift Freeze Knowflake Posts: 168 From: One World Registered: Nov 2009
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posted November 30, 2012 04:03 AM
I'm going through a rough time right now, but I will try. Thank you for making me feel welcome though, it is very kind of you.- Chris ------------------ Learn lots. Don't judge. Laugh for no reason. Be nice. Seek Happiness. Follow your dreams. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 8867 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 30, 2012 04:53 AM
quote: VenusDiSirius: All inclusive Cap Moon club.
But of course (!) Virgolotus, maybe Randall if he's in a good mood , can't think of any others IP: Logged |