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4lifephrases
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posted December 13, 2012 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to alarm you all but I find Scorpion males highly irresistible, so sure of themselves, seem always nice , has soulful eyes, philosophical and so passionate. (I know they can be mean,the best I have got is ignored,nothing major.)

I am Scorpion woman.Even when we are just talking random stuff but depth is just so brilliant it feels like mental sex.

I do not intend to cheat on my husband or anything but like brief moment of talking and I find it so stimulating like it turns me on, just want to take them home.

My father was Scorpio and I miss him terribly. I am always on look out for Scorpio mentors. I am going to have Saturn return in Scorpio soon. I guess I just miss Scorpio male energy. It is so sexy ! :-)

Anyone has any logical explanation why you crave or get obsessed to want that energy apart from transits ?
I am surrounded with pisces.

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11nahyt
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posted December 13, 2012 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well now you know you're not in love with your husband. you are getting TOO close to those men if they make you feel that way, which is very very disrespectful to your husband. fyi emotional cheating is just as bad as physically cheating. if not worst.imo anyway

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posted December 13, 2012 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Um I don't think your thinking you wanna take them home is appropriate considering you're married. -_- ... Set boundaries or you're going to hurt your hubby.

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posted December 13, 2012 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
4life - i think the bigger question here is , what is your husband lacking that makes you so easily drawn elsewhere? and are you willing to take the steps to address it or move on from it?

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posted December 13, 2012 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, these comments are silly.

Just because you get married doesn't mean part of your brain suddenly turns off and that you become incapable of finding other people attractive or desirable, or that you somehow don't love your spouse by default.

The question is, whether or not you act on it, and you haven't, so...your reaction is entirely human and normal.

As far as the actual question goes, do you have anything in Scorp natally besides your sun? Nodes? Vertex? A chart angle? Is Pluto super-active in your chart?

It could just be as simple and obvious as you feeling a connection because of the shared sun sign.

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posted December 13, 2012 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was the main point of the post....


THERE ARE PEOPLE AND ENERGY YOU GET ATTRACTED TO AND PULL IN YOUR LIFE - anybody listens to Anne Ortelee she says it all the time because there is something which you are not doing or supposedly somebody does it for you because you are not doing it??

IF THE TITLE WAS LESS PROVOCATIVE IT WOULD HAVE HELPED.I WISH I COULD CHANGE NOW. SORRY FOR THAT.

My problem is to know why I need that Scorpio energy so bad in my life and to find healthy ways to find it in my chart,use it and deal with it.

Remember Mars energy can be either sex or can be productive lots of work as well.

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This was not most important part of post on challenging anyone's moral values on most complicated subject what is cheating and loyalty?

Sorry I was not completely ready for blown- out-of-context advice. I guess it is difficult to explain emotions in simpler terms,so that's fine and I had written post in true blue Scorpio way.

11nahyt and Haplesschild*: I know you both have been loyal every day of your life and hats off for that and not even for second thought cheating to your husbands.
I really like that!!! :-)

Agreed taking someone home might be completely wrong.I would really like to get clear on what you consider emotional cheating though and I wonder what you read and understood from my post?

Question to me really is that how many women doesn't admire another men apart from their husbands for wit, for their charm, for the things other men can do and if you really don't then probably you are lying. One person isn't everything anyways. Have you ever not admired Leonardo Di Carpio or Brad Pitt for their looks? Have you ever not wished that yes that's what I would like them? There is this whole women v/s men debate but let's not get there as we all know how it ends.Women as losers because other women believes that is right way. If you think your husband is god then you aren't living in real world. I do know if you do not love your husband it is time to get out of the relationship.

I know this debate isn't going to go well as most of you just think it is cheating and make it like a crime and maybe it is in your eyes.

I believe different people have different meaning within their relationship what is loyalty,cheating and what is not? If you have finished condemning and which I agree is all good advice because it is right advice to give on this type of public forum.

If seriously anybody asked me is it ok to cheat I would say "No, it isn't ok. It is completely wrong."

That's fine.

I have told my husband so it isn't like oh my god what I am doing and that he doesn't know and he is going to get hurt.

Few people have relationship with lots of bull **** and no honesty. Some relationships are with lots of honesty and zero tolerance to ******** .

Haplesschild* : Setting boundaries in what ways? You mentally tell yourself, I can not feel or for momentarily think that I would take this man home (equivalent in my scorpionic passionate terms -god he is genius and we connect in that level which no other human being does and that is mentally sexy or passionate- it doesn't mean we are talking about sex) Sorry is that what you are saying? That is some will power.Sorry I am Scorpio supposedly most loyal sign and I can't do it. ( Am I giving bad name already to my sign, you bet?) That is different things I have balls to admit it in public forum and not hide behind hypocrisy.

11nahyt: I completely disagree when you say I am not in love with my husband. I am truly, deeply in love with him. I love him for a wonderful person he is. There are limitation to each person and every person can not be everybody and I agree you love them for who they are but do you or do you not find people to feel the void?

Any thoughts welcome but please do not treat this like there is some crime and somebody needs to be punished because fabric of your society is being tarnished by flutter of somebody's thought, if so there would be lots of men and women who needs to be punished for watching TV, flirting jokingly and dressing provocatively.
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posted December 13, 2012 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Well, keep in mind marriage is a positive construct, but still a construct such attraction is normal and imo, healthy.

It means you are "alive" now acting on that attraction is a different matter

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posted December 13, 2012 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Stacy and Padre35! at last somebody gets it my dilema.

I have Sun, Pluto and Saturn.Major is Saturn in Scorpio Transits.Pluto is probably on 27th Degree and should leave 1st house and I get it the lesson to stand up for yourself and lots of psyche change but I still feel I get missing answers from all this Scorpio I meet.
1st House Pluto Trine 3rd House Neptune.

I hate it that I do not meet Scorpio woman who can make that much profound effect on me.
I guess it is because I am looking for guidance in my career side of things and just making great changes in life which are very scary. It not to say I do not admire Aries ,Taurus, Gemini and Aquarius women which are there in my life.

Believe me I would love to have Scorpion women, it would be so much easier for me that I wouldn't feel guilt that why I am getting attracted to these men. They always seemed to have missing key or the answers which whole world doesn't have it. Infact very first Scorpion men seem to have helped me to look at my own perspective and believe in myself. It is really unfortunate that I am being ignored by him,(maybe that is good in a way.)

More important question is what do I do when like Pluto is so active???

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posted December 13, 2012 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

All one can do is accept it.

But not act, right now the heavens are sort of amping me up a bit (Saggie sun/triple fire/pluto square sun) and while I feel reckless.

I don't act on it.

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posted December 13, 2012 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
admiring someones beauty,mind or personality is not the problem. i see nothing wrong with that. it's that shes married and shes lusting over multiple men, wishing she could take them home while she's married? how is that something NOT wronng?!. you KNOW you're attracted to the connection in ways that is making you want to take them home, but you keep flirting anyway cause it's soo "irresistible"? that's wrong period. you don't have to see it my way. but the poster posted this topic to get opinions on her situation. i gave mines.. cheating isn't only about acting on it in a physical way. meaning actually having sex. emotional affairs are just as bad and imo WORST.. its playing with fire either way. and disrespectful to your partner. i understand if you feel a pull towards someone. and even being sexually attracted to someone else while being in a relationship (i cannot relate) but i know it happens and it is normal (unfortunately). but all that means to me is that you are not in the right relationship.. your current relationship must not be enough for you if you find that other men are filling in a void your husband isn't. if you are flirting with other men while being in a relationship/married, especially to the point that this interaction is turning you on and making it "irresistible" to you, then you are getting TOO close and that's crossing the line. @4life what i got from your post was that you are lusting for other men, and that you want to take them home with you. which is what you wrote. and then your next reply which says "taking someone home might be completely wrong" ..the fact that you said "might" is enough to make anyone think that you're considering or have considered to cheat or something. sorry if this is not what you meant. but i'm only going by what you have written.. when in a relationship, no i have never desired to be with anyone else. apart from my partner, yes i can find other people to be beautiful,handsome, compelling or have admirable traits. but from that, to lusting over someone else besides my partner? no. wanting to take that compelling admirable guy home with me? never.at least not yet. if someone wants to be with someone else other than their partner especially with multiple other men, then to me something isn't right in that relationship. btw i didn't say you didn't love your partner, i just said "you now know you aren't IN LOVE" with him. my idea of what love and being IN love is, will differ from others i get that. but you posted your topic wanting peoples opinion on it, and that's what i'm doing. i suggest you research the term "emotional affairs" or "emotional cheating", google it if you'd like. there is soo much on that, and its too much to post here lol.

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posted December 13, 2012 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@4life, your post is confusing and you keep contradicting yourself. at first you say you don't intend to cheat on your spouse, and how it isn't okay and how wrong it is to cheat, but yet you've considered taking these men home with you? and then you contradict yourself in other responses saying things like
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Originally posted by 4lifephrases:
"you mentally tell yourself, I can not feel or for momentarily think that I would take this man home (equivalent in my scorpionic passionate terms -god he is genius and we connect in that level which no other human being does and that is mentally sexy or passionate- it doesn't mean we are talking about sex) Sorry is that what you are saying? That is some will power.Sorry I am Scorpio supposedly most loyal sign and I can't do it"
. when you say a man turns you on to the point you want to take him home, how is that not referring to sex? and then that last bit about not being able to be loyal to your spouse? but yet you are in love with your man? okayyy. i think you may have love for him, but based on what you've been saying so far, you are not IN love with him. that's just me though. and then you continue by saying this
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Originally posted by 4lifephrases:
"I am looking for guidance in my career side of things and just making great changes in life which are very scary"
which then sounds like you long for a friend/mentor (preferably a scorpio/pluto person) who's deep and insightful, or can connect with you in that deep way you crave. which is completely diff from what you were talking about in your original post . in response to your last comment your scorp/pluto placements and the pluto transit in your 1st will def make you feel a pull towards other plutonians or heavy scorpio folks. i've always felt that pluto folks click best with other pluto people. which is my in my case as well.it has only been with pluto folks or heavy scorpio folks that i've been able to click amazingly well with.. just like uranian people may feel most at ease with other uranian or aquarian people.

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posted December 14, 2012 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Emotional cheating is still cheating. I don't think you have crossed into that yet, but you could be heading in that direction. Just my two cents. Carry on.

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posted December 15, 2012 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
admiring someones beauty,mind or personality is not the problem. i see nothing wrong with that. it's that shes married and shes lusting over multiple men, wishing she could take them home while she's married? how is that something NOT wronng?!. you KNOW you're attracted to the connection in ways that is making you want to take them home, but you keep flirting anyway cause it's soo "irresistible"? that's wrong period. you don't have to see it my way. but the poster posted this topic to get opinions on her situation. i gave mines.. cheating isn't only about acting on it in a physical way. meaning actually having sex. emotional affairs are just as bad and imo WORST.. its playing with fire either way. and disrespectful to your partner. i understand if you feel a pull towards someone. and even being sexually attracted to someone else while being in a relationship (i cannot relate) but i know it happens and it is normal (unfortunately). but all that means to me is that you are not in the right relationship.. your current relationship must not be enough for you if you find that other men are filling in a void your husband isn't. if you are flirting with other men while being in a relationship/married, especially to the point that this interaction is turning you on and making it "irresistible" to you, then you are getting TOO close and that's crossing the line. @4life what i got from your post was that you are lusting for other men, and that you want to take them home with you. which is what you wrote. and then your next reply which says "taking someone home might be completely wrong" ..the fact that you said "might" is enough to make anyone think that you're considering or have considered to cheat or something. sorry if this is not what you meant. but i'm only going by what you have written.. when in a relationship, no i have never desired to be with anyone else. apart from my partner, yes i can find other people to be beautiful,handsome, compelling or have admirable traits. but from that, to lusting over someone else besides my partner? no. wanting to take that compelling admirable guy home with me? never.at least not yet. if someone wants to be with someone else other than their partner especially with multiple other men, then to me something isn't right in that relationship. btw i didn't say you didn't love your partner, i just said "you now know you aren't IN LOVE" with him. my idea of what love and being IN love is, will differ from others i get that. but you posted your topic wanting peoples opinion on it, and that's what i'm doing. i suggest you research the term "emotional affairs" or "emotional cheating", google it if you'd like. there is soo much on that, and its too much to post here lol.

Hun but the thing is, most people that have inclinations to cheat or do cheat aren't doing it bc their relationships are awful, it's usually more to do with having a void WITHIN themselves, seeking validation, lacking empathy, being selfish, impulsive and liking thrills.

So if she is thinking thoughts like that, it might just be her problem, not her marriage itself.

And yeah, when I'm in love with somebody, I can think other men are attractive, but I don't feel attraction towards them. Especially not to the point of getting so turned on I'd want to take them home. Eeek lol.

You can actually love someone and still cheat. It's not that black and white. Unfortunately some people do just have tendencies towards crossing the line while others are just more loyal in thought and action.

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posted December 15, 2012 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh, these comments are silly.

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posted December 15, 2012 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I THINK that you need to tell your husband about it. I mean, in my opinion, relationships MUST be honest. Tell him if you find someone to be threatening to your devotion, or if you've had the urge to cheat, or considered it, etc.

If you think someone will cause you and your husband heartache, or someone makes a move on you, maybe talk over a solution with your husband? I feel it's natural to be attracted to people, and like StacyLewis said, you won't stop being attracted to other people just because you're married. AND, that if you find someone irresistible, despite being married, you aren't a bad person.
I feel like you won't cheat, which is good, and the main point in my opinion. Also...it came across to me that you're looking for help/explanation and all the first few posters did was shame you. I'm disappointed in them.
Now, onto the astrology...

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posted December 15, 2012 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hun but the thing is, most people that have inclinations to cheat or do cheat aren't doing it bc their relationships are awful, it's usually more to do with having a void WITHIN themselves, seeking validation, lacking empathy, being selfish, impulsive and liking thrills.

So if she is thinking thoughts like that, it might just be her problem, not her marriage itself.

And yeah, when I'm in love with somebody, I can think other men are attractive, but I don't feel attraction towards them. Especially not to the point of getting so turned on I'd want to take them home. Eeek lol.

You can actually love someone and still cheat. It's not that black and white. Unfortunately some people do just have tendencies towards crossing the line while others are just more loyal in thought and action.


i didn't say her relationship is awful or bad. i said the relationship she is must not beenough for her. not because i think there is something wrong with her husband. but because SHE is the one who isn't content enough in it if shes constantly seeking other men to fill in some void. when i say the relationship, i am talking about her being with the person she is with IN this relationship, is not enough for her.

i do NOT believe someone can be in love with their partner and still cheat. you may care for that person a lot, be infatuated or in lust with that person. but to be "in love" with someone and cheat? then to me you weren't in love at all..the whole love ordeal isn't black and white to me, but respect and loyalty is.to me, someone who cheats on their partner is basically saying "this 5 minute nut is worth loosing my partner over". basically you don't care enough for your "love", if you would throw all of that away for some minutes of pleasure that you should be getting from the person you're supposedly in "love" with instead. this is what i believe.

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posted December 15, 2012 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But some people are selfish. Unfortunately pleasure and desires trump their concern for their partner's feelings. It's sad, but that's life unfortunately. So it's not really just a 'if you're in love with somebody, you'll definitely be 100% loyal' bc people are different.

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posted December 15, 2012 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I THINK that you need to tell your husband about it. I mean, in my opinion, relationships MUST be honest. Tell him if you find someone to be threatening to your devotion, or if you've had the urge to cheat, or considered it, etc.

If you think someone will cause you and your husband heartache, or someone makes a move on you, maybe talk over a solution with your husband? I feel it's natural to be attracted to people, and like StacyLewis said, you won't stop being attracted to other people just because you're married. AND, that if you find someone irresistible, despite being married, you aren't a bad person.
I feel like you won't cheat, which is good, and the main point in my opinion. Also...it came across to me that you're looking for help/explanation and all the first few posters did was shame you. I'm disappointed in them.
Now, onto the astrology...


It's just alittle inappropriate. Imagine if her husbund knew, he'd feel paranoid and hurt no doubt.

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posted December 15, 2012 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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it's not really just a 'if you're in love with somebody, you'll definitely be 100% loyal' bc people are different.

You cannot sit there and invalidate someone's feelings/relationship just because of your own values.

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posted December 15, 2012 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Haplesschild; oh yes no doubt! I guess I mean if she feels like she's going to cheat or something like that, or if someone's hitting on her, she finds them irresistable...stuff like that.

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posted December 15, 2012 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yep unfortunately. but if you are having such a hard time committing and being loyal. then be honest with yourself and your partner or move on. its selfish to stay with someone, when you're cheating, or contemplating to.

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posted December 15, 2012 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't cheat lol. But I was cheated on by somebody who 'loved' me but was insecure and needed validation. Some people are just wired differently.

But yeah, OP should step back or boundaries will be crossed really soon. Cos cheating is much more than just physical; doing or saying something you're not comfortable with doing in front of your partner is cheating in my eyes.

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posted December 15, 2012 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You cannot sit there and invalidate someone's feelings/relationship just because of your own values.

um if someone comes on to a public forum looking for peoples opinion on their dilemma, then that person is going to get just that. whether they like the responses or not. i gave my opinion..i do not believe she is in love with her husband. that's all. this is what i believe. and i'm not forcing anyone to see it my way. i'm just saying what I feel/believe. you don't have to like it or agree with me.

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posted December 15, 2012 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But yeah, OP should step back or boundaries will be crossed really soon. Cos cheating is much more than just physical; doing or saying something you're not comfortable with doing in front of your partner is cheating in my eyes.

definitely

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posted December 15, 2012 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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um if someone comes on to a public forum looking for peoples opinion on their dilemma, then that person is going to get just that.]

Last I checked, she was asking for an explanation, not (in)validation.

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