posted December 15, 2012 11:33 AM            

My post is only meant as an explanation to people not feeling physical pain; it doesnīt make any of this tragic crime easier.

Even if he has aspergers, autism and is a sociopath by chemical disbalance in his brain, it is no excuse.
And even more so, there are people with all these things who still don`t do such an awful thing.

posted December 15, 2012 01:22 PM            

A sad sad day

posted December 15, 2012 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by brightwhites:
I wouldn't say this kid didn't recognize anyone. I think this says something about our healthcare system and the lack of help there is for mental health in this country. No one shoots up a school and commits suicide unless there is something wrong. I bet no one thought to help him though because of his disability/chemical imbalance.

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posted December 15, 2012 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by brightwhites:
I wouldn't say this kid didn't recognize anyone. I think this says something about our healthcare system and the lack of help there is for mental health in this country. No one shoots up a school and commits suicide unless there is something wrong. I bet no one thought to help him though because of his disability/chemical imbalance.

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I wasn`t referring to the shooter especially, just because someone said they had never heard about a person not being able to feel physical pain. My post actually had nothing to do with this individual.

posted December 15, 2012 01:42 PM            

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Originally posted by starmoon:
health care is its own debate, but you cannot force a mentally ill person to get mental care, and that is, by far, the most difficult aspect of dealing with a family member who suffers from mental illness. no matter how far gone a person is mentally they have to ask for help themselves and voluntarily walk into hospitals and clinics to get assistance. and, how often is a mentally ill person capable of doing this? and then continuing to take their meds, make appointments, etc? it's quite hopeless at times, depending on the severity of the illness. my brother is schizophrenic and it's extremely difficult to handle someone with a mentally ill condition. as much as i hurt for those families who lost children i also hurt for the mother and brother and father who knew what their own family member was suffering from; people don't really want to hear it, but it's just as hard for the shooter's family

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Are you sure you are referring to a mental condition, and not a psychic one?

posted December 15, 2012 05:30 PM            

But again, we don't know what measures his family might have taken in the past. So sad and tragic.

posted December 15, 2012 08:33 PM            

Gemini with either Pisces or Aries moon
actually if may 26, 1992

posted December 15, 2012 08:49 PM            

taurus with capricorn moon
i know, i know, that there are many taurus with capricorn moons that are not killers - but hitler was the same combo.

posted December 15, 2012 10:13 PM            

I wonder if he might actually be a Sag moon? They have him at 8* Cap at 12 pm with unknown birth time.

I should know by now how many degrees the moon advances per day, but I don't.

posted December 15, 2012 10:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Oooo Moon conjunct north node. I know in indian astrology the north node is considered very malefic.

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posted December 15, 2012 10:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ Thank you!

I wonder if he might actually be a Sag moon? They have him at 8* Cap at 12 pm with unknown birth time.

I should know by now how many degrees the moon advances per day, but I don't.

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it's capricorn.. moon changes sign every 2 and a half days. (12 signs x 2.5 = 30 days)

soo it's 60 hours total/30 degrees = 1 degree every 2 hours. so noon back to midnight would be back 6 degrees back

posted December 15, 2012 11:12 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I have Aspergers. I'm messed up in my brain. I play violent video games. I listen to rap music. I hate my childhood. People made fun of me. I hate people. People hate me. I'm good with guns. Yet, I don't go around shooting people, especially 6 year olds.

May he rot in hell for all eternity!!!

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You make a good point. A lot of people who COULD potentially have a reason to flip out like this don't, and are more then capable of maintaining their sanity. Regardless of what happens in our lives we all have the personal choice of how to handle our issues, and are accountable for our own actions.

About the astrology part...

If the Taurus Sun, Capricorn Moon chart is correct, and if Adam Lanza was born close to noon... It's interesting to note that his Mercury at 5 degrees Aries, and Moon near 8 Capricorn, would be right on top of the current Uranus/Pluto Square. Right now it's Uranus at 4 degrees Aries squaring Pluto at 8 degrees Capricorn...

These are outer planets which indicates that he's been boiling over inside for quite some time. If he had a Cap Moon near the current Pluto transit, rage against his family is a possible motive for his actions. I did read an article online where someone associated with the family said that his mother seemed to not know what to do about her 'odd' son... Apparently he was book smart but very quiet and antisocial.

Myself, I have Sun at 5 degrees of Capricorn, and have experienced the Uranus/Pluto square quite keenly in the last few years. Although I've been through some periods of frustration, I haven't indulged in any murderous rampages, and certainly don't plan to... Even though I'm pretty quiet and antisocial myself at times (Not all quiet people are nutters, folks!). Everyone has pain and stress in their lives, it's how we handle it that counts. One of the benefits of knowing astrology is that we know that when a stressful time/transit occurs that it will eventually pass, and we'll move on from that difficult time in our lives. A lot of young people have very little concept of how the passage of time heals... All they know is the pain and anguish that they are feeling right now! Something in this young man burst. It's not an excuse. It was his choice how to handle his inner turmoil... But this does offer something of an explanation as to what psychological dynamics were active for him at the time this terrible event occurred.

I'm noticing a lot of the perpetrators of these types of crimes lately have Capricorn planets. The movie theater guy was a Sag with other placements in Cap. It seems Pluto transiting through Capricorn is setting off all the potential loose cannons out there that happen to have Capricorn planets. I wonder if a similar pattern occurred with Sag planet people during Pluto's transit through Sag?

posted December 16, 2012 01:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
^ How can anyone believe in god when tragedies like this happen everyday..

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Because people don't listen,... they do their own thing and think they know better. We have choice...

There was a big flood. One man was sitting on the roof of his house. The water was at his feet and there was a severe risk of drowning. Another person with a boat came close and asked him to jump in. No, no, said the man, God will save me. I trust Him. The water rose to his knees, some helicopter flew over and threw out a ladder to him. No, no, said the man ,God will save me. I trust him. The waters rose more and after a few hours the man drowned. He arrived in Heaven and met with God, he was very angry and said. God, I trusted you, why did you not save me. Well, said God, I sent you a boat, I sent you a helicopter, but did you listen to me???

posted December 16, 2012 01:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Tofu addict:
Because people don't listen,... they do their own thing and think they know better. We have choice...

There was a big flood. One man was sitting on the roof of his house. The water was at his feet and there was a severe risk of drowning. Another person with a boat came close and asked him to jump in. No, no, said the man, God will save me. I trust Him. The water rose to his knees, some helicopter flew over and threw out a ladder to him. No, no, said the man ,God will save me. I trust him. The waters rose more and after a few hours the man drowned. He arrived in Heaven and met with God, he was very angry and said. God, I trusted you, why did you not save me. Well, said God, I sent you a boat, I sent you a helicopter, but did you listen to me???

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The moral here is that before things escalate badly , there are warnings,there is help, but we often choose to ignore that and go our own deluded way.