posted December 21, 2012 05:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
People seem to be focusing a lot on the relationship or sexual aspects of Venus and Mars, when there is much more associated with both planets.

Venus is our values, the things we appreciate, the style and interests we are drawn to (and repulsed by). It also represents how we experience the quality of our environment.

So Venus in Scorpio is drawn to intensity (unsettling intensity for some) and clarity. It appreciates darkness, deepness, richness, piercing brightness, and experiences of truth which stir one's soul in its depths. It is repulsed by superficiality, ignorance, lack of connection, and weak commitment. When experiencing their world, the quality of their environment it vivid and deep, vaguely dangerous and full of opportunities for deep, lasting, and meaningful metamorphosis. The world often tests our emotions and forces us to appreciate the truth beyond what is placed in front of us. Our experiences of the world develop in us values of honesty, commitment, sacrifice, comprehension, understanding, devotion, and appreciation of what can not be seen or described, only experienced.

Mars is our cause, our will, and the reason driving our actions. If Venus is what our eye is drawn to when we look out into the world, then Mars is about how we acquire those attractive things and what we want to do with them.

So Mars in Scorpio has within it a deep and calculating force, waiting for the right moment to strike into action. It acts with a strength which is built upon the principal of only revealing the cards that matter and observing with intense detail, the most effective way to win the game. Scorpio Mars longs, yearns, and aches for the beautiful things they have yet to understand or win. Like a dragon in a trove of treasure, their accomplishments can pile up like cherished jewels to be guarded. When challenged, Mars in Scorpio may display their stinger as a warning, or even strike the challenger at its weakest point. Some may flee into the shadows, only to emerge when the challenger least expects to find a stinger burred deep in their back. Even playfulness can be filled with love bites and affectionate stings. Where some may feel winning is the road to metamorphosis, it is the process of both winning AND losing which truly brings about greatness.

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very poetic and well said!

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posted December 21, 2012 05:48 PM            

Thanks AA!

posted December 21, 2012 05:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Moon in Scorpio is too much for my fragile, high string gemini. Do you know what I mean?

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posted December 21, 2012 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Moon in Scorpio is too much for my fragile, high string gemini. Do you know what I mean?

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posted December 21, 2012 05:51 PM            

The Mars in Scorpio I seriously dated a few years ago was quite intense and full on, the Venus one I dated for a short while (2 months) was possessive but didn't have such a heavy energy.

With mars, if they set you in their sights, they pursue with extreme determination while the Scorpio Venus is more private imo.

posted December 21, 2012 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
People seem to be focusing a lot on the relationship or sexual aspects of Venus and Mars, when there is much more associated with both planets.

Venus is our values, the things we appreciate, the style and interests we are drawn to (and repulsed by). It also represents how we experience the quality of our environment.

So Venus in Scorpio is drawn to intensity (unsettling intensity for some) and clarity. It appreciates darkness, deepness, richness, piercing brightness, and experiences of truth which stir one's soul in its depths. It is repulsed by superficiality, ignorance, lack of connection, and weak commitment. When experiencing their world, the quality of their environment it vivid and deep, vaguely dangerous and full of opportunities for deep, lasting, and meaningful metamorphosis. The world often tests our emotions and forces us to appreciate the truth beyond what is placed in front of us. Our experiences of the world develop in us values of honesty, commitment, sacrifice, comprehension, understanding, devotion, and appreciation of what can not be seen or described, only experienced.

Mars is our cause, our will, and the reason driving our actions. If Venus is what our eye is drawn to when we look out into the world, then Mars is about how we acquire those attractive things and what we want to do with them.

So Mars in Scorpio has within it a deep and calculating force, waiting for the right moment to strike into action. It acts with a strength which is built upon the principal of only revealing the cards that matter and observing with intense detail, the most effective way to win the game. Scorpio Mars longs, yearns, and aches for the beautiful things they have yet to understand or win. Like a dragon in a trove of treasure, their accomplishments can pile up like cherished jewels to be guarded. When challenged, Mars in Scorpio may display their stinger as a warning, or even strike the challenger at its weakest point. Some may flee into the shadows, only to emerge when the challenger least expects to find a stinger burred deep in their back. Even playfulness can be filled with love bites and affectionate stings. Where some may feel winning is the road to metamorphosis, it is the process of both winning AND losing which truly brings about greatness.

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Beautifully stated. Really enjoyed reading this.

posted December 21, 2012 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

"Super intense but Scorpio venus seems like it would go better with a go getter Mars. I have an article on this as I had a Scorpio venus friend with a Libra mars and he seemed like he could not move to satisfy his Scorpio Venus. The Scorpio Mars is a go getter, so he can satisfy the Scorpio venus. That is my 2 cents, anyway"

Thanks AA!

It is sort of a dual thing, the Venus part will sit and brood, the Mercury portion is the part that does move and all of the "uhhm" other things.

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Do you mean the Mars?

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posted December 21, 2012 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
Venus in Scorpio is all engulfing emotionally, Mars is all engulfing sexually.

The Mars in Scorpio I seriously dated a few years ago was quite intense and full on, the Venus one I dated for a short while (2 months) was possessive but didn't have such a heavy energy.

With mars, if they set you in their sights, they pursue with extreme determination while the Scorpio Venus is more private imo.

I date more Scorpio moons (have dated 3) haha and only liked the last guys energy, the other two were too controlling.

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posted December 21, 2012 06:01 PM            

Funny thing is the whole "Scorpio in Jupiter is the bad boy/girl placement"

Doesn't ring true for my life anyway.

Could not lead a troop of cub scouts for ice cream.

posted December 21, 2012 06:01 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I do, I have Gemini ASC. Moon in Scorpio alone is enough to rattle the nerves of Gemini let alone Venus AND Moon in Scorpio.

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Yes, you learn certain placements that just won't work with you. I think I could take a Scorpio moon that was an exact trine to my cancer Moon. I had this with one guy and one woman( not together :grin )

I love moon trine moon the best of anything, in synastry. Scorpio Venus is too intense for me. I have a gemini stellium in the 9th and am not that intense, I guess.

posted December 21, 2012 06:07 PM            

This guy was a Pisces, I felt suffocated so we only went out a few times.

What I've found is (based on my experience) Scorpio moons are most intense, Venus plays the most games, mars is the most open and flirty.

posted December 21, 2012 06:10 PM            

I think he isn't attractive and he's not charismatic nor super tall but he has a way with women.

posted December 21, 2012 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
The second Scorpio moon met me in one my lectures when I came in late and had to sit at the back. We started chatting and later on when he got my number he used to bombard my phone full of texts. It was like he couldn't get his head around the fact I just met him, I wasn't his gf and that I couldn't just reply to texts straight away because I had a life. He had a problem with me hanging out with other guys and said he needed a girl to shower him with affection nd tell him 'I love you' straight away or he'd feel insecure.

This guy was a Pisces, I felt suffocated so we only went out a few times.

What I've found is (based on my experience) Scorpio moons are most intense, Venus plays the most games, mars is the most open and flirty.

I dated a rising for approx 6 months and I could hardly see the Scorpio side much, only sometimes in his eyes. He told me he's usually aloof but wasn't like that at all with me, He showed his soft side pretty much straight away.

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Well, true, to a point, it sounds like he was just insecure, but interested.

With time one learns it is better to get to know someone (see smoldering) that one is attracted to before doing all of that stuff.

What does surprise a bit is usually Scorpios are really good at catching a clue, could be a glance or a missed text or whatever and usually "we" get it.

posted December 21, 2012 06:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
Charlie sheen is a Scorpio mars! Enough said.

I think he isn't attractive and he's not charismatic nor super tall but he has a way with women.

So moons are most insecure and paranoid, Venus likes to play the most games, mars is most sure of himself and confident out of the three.

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Great point lol

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posted December 21, 2012 07:22 PM              

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Scorpio Venus seems to sit and smolder

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Agreed

posted December 21, 2012 08:07 PM            

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Yes, you learn certain placements that just won't work with you. I think I could take a Scorpio moon that was an exact trine to my cancer Moon. I had this with one guy and one woman( not together :grin )

I love moon trine moon the best of anything, in synastry. Scorpio Venus is too intense for me. I have a gemini stellium in the 9th and am not that intense, I guess.

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posted December 21, 2012 09:20 PM            

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Charlie sheen is a Scorpio mars! Enough said.

I think he isn't attractive and he's not charismatic nor super tall but he has a way with women.

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Ghandi too.

posted December 21, 2012 10:10 PM              

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Originally posted by sand:
Ghandi too.

http://guides.wikinut.com/The-Journey-of-Transformation-Through-the -Eighth-House-of-the-Horoscope/1.1aitcc/

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posted December 21, 2012 10:18 PM            

But ghandi has fixed t- square to Leo moon like me. Different planets. Same apex. Same house.

posted December 23, 2012 08:19 PM            

Hmmm not sure how to explain the differences beyond the basic love vs sex expression of Venus and Mars. Both vis and mis love, love making love but vis takes intimacy a bit more personally.

posted December 24, 2012 07:08 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
Love your post, Xiiro

Hmmm not sure how to explain the differences beyond the basic love vs sex expression of Venus and Mars. Both vis and mis love, love making love but vis takes intimacy a bit more personally.

I've joked to my husband who is mis on whether we'd remain friends if we ever went our separate ways. He says sure, but you must still sleep w me because no one else is like you in that way. He is dead serious too. Where I as a vis could not and would not ever sleep w anyone I don't love. Doesn't matter if we loved once. Once it is over it is over. Mis it seems doesn't mind long as he gets his/hers.

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phoenixfire

i am a vis and will be going out with a mis. this is the first mis i ever met/dated.
is it true that mis matches the vis?
although ive never been able to date a scorpio...too much like a brother...
i find this mis guy very unique.
mind sharing any mis-vis uniqueness in your relationship?
is it really worth it?
because...i was once told that nobody could ever love like a vis...but, i wonder if mis is a good enough match for us, vis ladies.

posted December 25, 2012 01:27 AM            

Hi hikoro,

Well my mis husband is also a cancer sun/Venus, which trines my Pisces moon & vis. I'm not sure, but think the Venus placement will channel how the energy of mars is directed. My husband is a big soft heart, very affectionate and very much requires a lot of attention & love.

If I start feeling distant, which does happen as my element is mostly fire, he begins to feel very hurt. My husband is very loyal & dedicated and passionate about what he loves (me & our kids).

He doesn't anger easily, but when he feels our family is in danger or something along those lines, the fury of Scorpio kicks in full force. He is nonsense, knows what he wants and goes for it. He knew that I'd be his wife from the time of our first date... Lol I wasn't convinced until much later.