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DopGang
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posted February 23, 2016 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's a matter of knowing and using the right methods to reach them emotionally. (Whatever placements or aspects you can name)

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posted February 23, 2016 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Yeah, the moon in Libra I know isn't emotionally distant or unavailable. 'Course, she's a Cancer sun, and she has a Libra moon-Mars sextile Sag Pluto, which probably makes her more so (though she has plenty of earth and air as well).

I have dated 3 men before that happened to have Water Sun/Air Moon. A Scorpio Sun/Libra Moon, a Pisces Sun/Gemini Moon and a Cancer Sun/Libra Moon. All the 3 of them were emotionally unavailable and cold. The Air Moon women I know aren't exactly expressive emotionally either. I don't see Libra energy emotionally more available than other air signs.

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Originally posted by diamondbaby:
I have dated 3 men before that happened to have Water Sun/Air Moon. A Scorpio Sun/Libra Moon, a Pisces Sun/Gemini Moon and a Cancer Sun/Libra Moon. All the 3 of them were emotionally unavailable and cold. The Air Moon women I know aren't exactly expressive emotionally either. I don't see Libra energy emotionally more available than other air signs.

The three dudes you dated don't make up the entire libra moon population.

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posted February 23, 2016 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do people mean by emotionally unavailable?

I mean, how available do people get, I wonder?

Maybe I need to watch more movies.

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posted February 23, 2016 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
I think it's a matter of knowing and using the right methods to reach them emotionally. (Whatever placements or aspects you can name)

Maybe that answers it.

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posted February 23, 2016 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have:
North Node in 7th H
Sun-Uranus opposition
ASC-Uranus opposition

I have a heavy water natal chart..
and I am very distant emotionally..
I do not tend to miss people
I do not like to show affection although all my siblings are very affectionate and like hugs and kisses way too much
I I don't want relationships at all,
I am a loner..
Although there are some people maybe 5 or 6 including siblings that I often miss them and I like to hug them sometimes.

I believe heavy air signs (especially Aquarius)
tight Uranus aspects
tight Saturn aspects
and too much Capricorn in a chart may indicate emotional detachment

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posted February 23, 2016 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Spongebob:
The three dudes you dated don't make up the entire libra moon population.

The hell? I never said they did. I simply responded to PixieJane stating that it is quite possible for someone with an Air Moon to be emotionally unavailable even with a Water Sun.

When I originally mentioned Libra Moon in my first post, I meant that Libra Moon as an energy itself can contribute to emotional availability in my opinion, not that ALL Libra Moons are emotionally unavailable.

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posted February 23, 2016 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, like I was saying. It's about knowing how to access the person.
To an air moon, a water moon may seem "emotionally unavailable". Why? The water moon person may not feel comfortable revealing themselves because they feel that they won't be taken seriously, their feelings looked at as stupid, or overdramatic. I've actually experienced this.
It's like two people watching a romantic comedy. The comedy may be more memorable to one while the romance more so to the other and they may not understand why the other person enjoyed that part more.
Apples and oranges.

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posted February 26, 2016 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's subjective.

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posted February 26, 2016 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having Saturn square Moon and Uranus square Venus in my chart, I must admit that I am often emotionally unavailable.

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I think it's a matter of knowing and using the right methods to reach them emotionally. (Whatever placements or aspects you can name)

With this I agree.

Also if the other touch my Moon and Venus in a harmonious way, things get a little easier, for both

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posted February 26, 2016 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SnowCatcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
I have a wide version of the moon opp Saturn in my chart~ seems to work exactly how you explained with your friends~ often unexpectantly causing a detatchment or conversely extreme over-empathizing with oneself/others emotionally.

Also, have a cnj Moon-Chiron ever so wide aspect...

It's not so much emotional unavailability but it internalizes the pain, introverted emotions... something like that.

~_~ I also think certain aspects with Uranus come with some form of emotional issue - whether it's an unawareness of appropriate response to a situation or others, or the inability to linger on emotions - capacity to connect, or with the moon, maybe a misunderstanding, inability to grasp the concepts of emotional depth others may feel... Uranus (even in conjunction) can make you emotionally frigid or fickle... I think. In any case, they can seem unavailable at times.


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posted February 27, 2016 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
I think it's a matter of knowing and using the right methods to reach them emotionally. (Whatever placements or aspects you can name)

This.

And synastry.

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posted February 27, 2016 10:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
I think it's a matter of knowing and using the right methods to reach them emotionally. (Whatever placements or aspects you can name)

Absolutely! This kinda makes further answers redundant.

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posted February 27, 2016 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion Moon hard aspected by Saturn is more stable and the issues are on confidence and not showing his emotions to his partner, so the person avoids the relationship until he feels worthy. Moon hard aspected by Uranus avoids the relationship because he gets bored easily, and his feelings can change quite often. He will settle down only with a partner who lets him feel free and is eccentric, not easily shocked. The second case is harder I believe and not the best option for someone that seeks stability.

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Everything here about Moon-Uranus is eerily accurate for me. Good thing I'm with someone who also has the square.. I don't think most people can feel comfortable with me for too long. Mostly because I *seem* very warm at first but yes the switch can be a bit dramatic and I even make my best friends uncomfortable with my impersonal-ness sometimes.
I'm not 'available' in the sense that I won't pretend to change the way I feel to appease anyone. (Seems obvious enough, but people do it all the time with ease. Either that or they're much less moody than I am, which is also highly likely.) For example, I can't do small talk if I'm not interested, so one day I might talk to an acquaintance and the next day it's like they don't exist, and that's just the way I am. Lol. Nothing personal. I cannot be a certain way for someone else.. It just doesn't work. Sometimes I will even act exactly the opposite of how someone wants me to act because of perceived pressure to conform to their emotional state. It's a self-defense thing, against, being caged in? I don't even know. But I personally wouldn't call it 'emotional unavailability,' more like emotional freedom.. Because it also comes with no expectation on my part about how the other person should act. They can be ecstatic, angry, crying, whatever. As long as I can stay being myself, I'll never make them feel weird about it.

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posted March 01, 2016 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
Absolutely! This kinda makes further answers redundant.

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posted January 30, 2021 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 31, 2021 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquafine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Air moons usually come off as cold (gemini moon here)

I'm not sure if someone else mentioned this since I haven't read the whole thread, but i think moon hard aspects to pluto would make someone pretty cold hearted yes intense emotions but also stone cold and maybe scary.

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posted January 31, 2021 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes .. Air Moons can come off unreachable (hello - I'm Aqua Luna) .. We Air Moons get lost in the Aether. We think so much. Lost in thought or in touch with the sky side. Conversing with those beings that don't touch the ground. We do enjoy connection with Earth, Fire and Water though - we aren't cold unless we need to protect our Hearts.

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posted February 07, 2021 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 26, 2021 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquarian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon quincunx Uranus in the 12th house. He shuts everyone out. This is possible even though his moon is in Cancer.

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posted April 26, 2021 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquafine:
Air moons usually come off as cold (gemini moon here)

I'm not sure if someone else mentioned this since I haven't read the whole thread, but i think moon hard aspects to pluto would make someone pretty cold hearted yes intense emotions but also stone cold and maybe scary.


I would actually agree with this. I have moon square Pluto almost exact and sometimes I do come across as cold. Especially if someone dramatizes too much and makes a mountain out of a molehill. I actually feel some type of disgust towards these people and regard them as spoilt. I don't say it though of course.
My emotions are not cold per so but they are very concentrated so I must choose what will touch my heart and what not.

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posted May 14, 2021 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 14, 2021 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
since they were all mentioned:

i have moon-uranus and moon-mercury (both trine aspects all part of a kite with venus) on my ascendant/descendant and nodes, also have moon semisquare saturn
i wouldn't say i'm emotionally distant generally, but i definitely can be at a certain point, i do check out for sure

i've had people comment on it that i just get cold and businesslike when i'm hurt or if i'm really depressed i tend to be very matter of fact about it

like i can emotionlessly tell someone i take comfort in the idea that i can always kill myself tomorrow, and i don't mean that in a sad way or anything just i genuinely think it's a nice option to have 🤷‍♀️

my ex used to call it my "robot mode" and a close friend of mine says he can tell i'm not ok when i speak in very matter of fact terms "businesslike" is his description

someone earlier in the thread mentioned moon-uranus being capable of giving someone else advice on how to deal with them when they're like that and i'm definitely that way or when i'm upset my tendency is to just shrug it off say i'll stop feeling it eventually and that it's not a problem

this tends to be no matter how bad it gets

i'm not an emotionally cold person though, no one's ever called me that anyway, generally people find me pretty warm but it's definitely like there's an off switch though

i have no issue making myself vulnerable and being open, can't help it actually i just get caught up in moments and that's all genuine, but i can turn off and if someone hurts me enough they can kill every feeling i had towards them entirely

like it's just gone, nothing there

i don't tend to take things personally, and generally speaking most of the time i have a hard time seeing my feelings as something that matters because most of the time they don't

like if i'm really depressed and nothing is going on like it's a nice day and and i don't have to actively deal with anything etc then i look at it like "ok i feel this but so what?" and just move on

it's also impossible to hurt me if i have no emotional investment in you, because i just don't care, and if someone puts me off i care even less

but like the flipside is that i can feel positive emotions towards people quickly and feel for people and stuff too like if i see someone struggling with something i do feel genuine feelings towards them and will help

i have a weird relationship with my feelings that isn't always healthy but 🤷‍♀️ could be worse, could be hard aspects

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