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posted January 06, 2013 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus/ASC synastry:

is it venus thats attracted to the ASC persons looks, or is it the other way around?

And what if the Venus relaxes in the other persons down-to-earth house 2nd, 6nd, or 10th... then how would you give this synastry its lovely explanation?

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posted January 07, 2013 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My venus is conjunct his Asc. I am the besotted one, but not by his looks alone, other aspects of his personality and mind are more attractive. If it is attraction to looks that you are referring to, I would say it is the Asc person who is more attracted.

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posted January 07, 2013 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ what's the orb of the conjunction ?

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posted January 07, 2013 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
My venus is conjunct his Asc. I am the besotted one, but not by his looks. I

What's in him that makes you besotted ?

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posted January 07, 2013 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
^ what's the orb of the conjunction ?

3.2 degrees. Just amended my post to say that I was attracted to his mind and personality first and foremost. The looks grew on me and are now part of the total attraction, as it were. I am besotted by everything - the way he communicates, his easy and understated manner, his intellect, his lovemaking and so on...

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posted January 07, 2013 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been confused about the way houses play in synastry too, but after some research (in my opinion) it's the Planet person who is attracted to the House person.

Venus is the energy that expresses love, charm, and beauty. When it aspects another planet, ex: Sun trine Venus. It's the Venus person who expresses "love" to the Sun person. So to me it doesn't make sense why is would reserve when it comes to the houses. In my experience, I had my Moon my friend's 1st house, and I was emotionally drawn to him. He would be the first person I went to for advice and support.

Sites that say it's the Venus person who is attracted.
Astrofix
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posted January 07, 2013 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
3.2 degrees. Just amended my post to say that I was attracted to his mind and personality first and foremost. The looks grew on me and are now part of the total attraction, as it were. I am besotted by everything - the way he communicates, his easy and understated manner, his intellect, his lovemaking and so on...


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posted January 07, 2013 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
My venus is conjunct his Asc. I am the besotted one, but not by his looks alone, other aspects of his personality and mind are more attractive. If it is attraction to looks that you are referring to, I would say it is the Asc person who is more attracted.

What's his rising sign?

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posted January 07, 2013 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JLyn ~:
Venus/ASC synastry:
And what if the Venus relaxes in the other persons down-to-earth house 2nd, 6nd, or 10th... then how would you give this synastry its lovely explanation?

I think when Venus is in the 6th, there's unrequited love. In those cases (I believe) the 6th house person feels love toward the Venus person, but the Venus person doesn't love the house person as much. Not that they don't love them at all, simply not as much.

When it's the 12th house (speaking of the 6th-12th house axis), it's the other way around. The planet person feels it more toward the house person, and the house person simply receives it more.

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posted January 07, 2013 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
I think when Venus is in the 6th, there's unrequited love. In those cases (I believe) the 6th house person feels love toward the Venus person, but the Venus person doesn't love the house person as much. Not that they don't love them at all, simply not as much.

it was actually the opposite in my case. he was the venus, and he was obessed with me. i thought he was a pest. but i did pity him. and i did care for him in a way. but not in a romantic sense.and he truly thought i was "the one" for him.

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posted January 07, 2013 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
What's his rising sign?

He is Leo Sun, Scorpio Asc whilst I am Scorpio Sun, Leo Asc. My besottedness could be the result of scorpion influence. I also have Venus in Scorpio which falls in his12th house. The last being another contributory factor.

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posted January 07, 2013 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
He is Leo Sun, Scorpio Asc whilst I am Scorpio Sun, Leo Asc. My besottedness could be the result of scorpion influence. I also have Venus in Scorpio which falls in his12th house. The last being another contributory factor.


Is your sun in his 1st or 12th?

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posted January 07, 2013 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Is your sun in his 1st or 12th?

I'm posting our synastry chart below which should help.


There could be other aspects to explain my deeply attracted state.

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posted January 07, 2013 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NN conjunct Venus.

Sorry, I'm too tired to look into it more deeply, that is what popped out first.

Best of luck!

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posted January 07, 2013 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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posted January 07, 2013 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moonfish:
I've been confused about the way houses play in synastry too, but after some research (in my opinion) it's the Planet person who is attracted to the House person.

Venus is the energy that expresses love, charm, and beauty. When it aspects another planet, ex: Sun trine Venus. It's the Venus person who expresses "love" to the Sun person. So to me it doesn't make sense why is would reserve when it comes to the houses. In my experience, I had my Moon my friend's 1st house, and I was emotionally drawn to him. He would be the first person I went to for advice and support.

Sites that say it's the Venus person who is attracted.
Astrofix
Starscopestoday
Askjulie


Thank you for the websites moonfish <3

Yeah! if you really stop and think about it, and really think back... the books says the house feels it more and the planet just brings it, well i beg to disagree.

I like to think of it like two people walking in the rain, one is holding the umbrella tilted so its shared, while they "both" feeling the cold drops of the wet energy, the one holding the umbrella feels it less because hes controlling the direction.... covered and more protected from the "rain, but the winds suddenly change and the umbrella flips so now their both soaked.

Astrology is not hard or soft its very complex. Thats why i say that whole (just the house person feels it, or feels it more) is brown papeback oldie goldies not enough experiments.

The engeries flow back and forth to person A and to person B depending on transits at that time, natal, and synastry aspects is what wakes up the house. Thats why one partner or both partners feel the planets energy more at certain times.


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posted January 07, 2013 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is very reassuring to hear Jlyn. It's only fair that the pain/ecstasy is shared. If my bf should experience the same even if for a few minutes, I would be delighted.

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posted January 07, 2013 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
I think when Venus is in the 6th, there's unrequited love. In those cases (I believe) the 6th house person feels love toward the Venus person, but the Venus person doesn't love the house person as much. Not that they don't love them at all, simply not as much.

When it's the 12th house (speaking of the 6th-12th house axis), it's the other way around. The planet person feels it more toward the house person, and the house person simply receives it more.


Yep first part i totally see its like it reverses the beauty of venus being in the 6th house (get on your knees and be my servant) o.o
"once i ran to you now i run from you"- tainted love


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posted January 07, 2013 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astro Keen,

Lol And every waking hour.

But thats what makes life interesting! i mean look the at the golden rule... "what goes around come around" its a scientific thing right? well so is astrology, so thats kinda what gave me that idea

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posted January 07, 2013 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Moonfish for the most part.

However, I've found that things get really tricky when it comes to the Ascendant (actually they always get tricky no matter the house).

IME, Venus is the one who's initially attracted to the ASC person, they like the way they look and come across. They may like them *at first* when they don't really know the "deeper" part of the ASC person. Keep in mind that the ASC is not the Sun, and not even the Moon. It's not a planet, it's an angle and while - yes, it is important - it doesn't necessarily reflect our 'true' self, which may be completely different from the image we project. That's why if I had to choose between those two I'd take a planet, I find that it has more "substance" to it.

Then it seems to go back and forth, ASC likes Venus, and seems to like them more, and then boom it's the other way round, etc. Ideally of course there should be a balance and both people like each other, at least the more "superficial" parts. When we get to the Sun & Moon, that's when things can get complicated. Imagine the ASC person opens up to the Venus person only to find out that they can't relate to their inner world, and may even not appreciate it. Ex: a woman is all lovely / compomising because of her Libra rising. A guy with Venus in Libra will enjoy these traits and find her attractive. But her Moon is in Scorp, and once she gets truly comfy with a partner, her more possessive, dominating side comes out. The guy may feel alienated and the attraction / feelings go up and down, depending on what part of her chart she's decided to express.


That's the way I see it.

But other than that, it's usually a lovely aspect, if both the ASC and Venus are natally well-aspected. Both people feel comfortable with each other, at least in the beginning.

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Oh Venus/NN conjunction comes up so often in couples' charts it's almost scary. There's something to that combo which makes people just stick together.

That synastry chart looks really nice.
Moons conjunct, lots of planets in angular houses, IC / ASC in the same sign, Node connections..

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posted January 07, 2013 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"Oh Venus/NN conjunction comes up so often in couples' charts it's almost scary. There's something to that combo which makes people just stick together.

That synastry chart looks really nice.
Moons conjunct, lots of planets in angular houses, IC / ASC in the same sign, Node connections.."
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Me and my last love has northnode C venus
sweeter than candy synastry
doomed and tained composite

we hurt each other so much cause circumstances didnt allow us a chance to be together


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posted January 07, 2013 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry about that, JLyn.

Obviously if the synastry is overall difficult and the natal charts don't match and/or the composite chart is filled with hard aspects, even a sweet Venus/North Node conjunction won't save it. It may even make things more difficult because the two people will feel like they belong together and yet things won't go as they want them to.

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posted January 07, 2013 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Sorry about that, JLyn.

Obviously if the synastry is overall difficult and the natal charts don't match and/or the composite chart is filled with hard aspects, even a sweet Venus/North Node conjunction won't save it. It may even make things more difficult because the two people will feel like they belong together and yet things won't go as they want them to.


Much respect for the kindness.
yah the hardest thing to tell someone you love is "i dont feel anything for you anymore, sorry".

You gotta brainwash yourself when you emotionally miss'um and convince yourself it wasnt real.


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posted January 07, 2013 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So anyways back to the subject, ... m'T

Is venus sextile or trine ASC
a wedding ring indicator?

or

Are is the synastry just physical infatuation?


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posted January 07, 2013 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having got this far, I'm going to be really bold and post our composite as well. I personally think bad things will not happen. Do ignore it if it's an imposition, although any observations would be gratefully received.

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