posted January 07, 2013 06:22 AM            

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posted January 07, 2013 06:48 AM            

Childhood, childhood...I also have Jupiter and Pluto in the Fourth. Honestly, my family moved a LOT. Like a new house every two years, a new city every five years (Jupiter?). I have lots of siblings and they came and went in my household too.
A major theme in my childhood was my father loving my sister more than me. I always felt like he favoured her and I struggled against her/him (Pluto?).

I'm not sure where the Sun plays in...

posted January 07, 2013 07:24 AM            

Scorpio IC

I had an intense childhood filled with sensing dark secrets, getting acquainted with death, darkness, the world of sex. I sensed and feared a lot...for instance, my mother died when I was 14 and I think I sensed that coming from my earliest childhood. It's like I could hear it in her voice.

posted January 07, 2013 07:36 AM            

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My IC is Cancer, late degrees.

My mother used to smother me and my sister with love and affection when we were little. When we grew up however it all stopped. Now she's just overly involved in our personal matters which can be annoying.

I feel like the sign itself doesn't speak much about my childhood experience, but the ruler of the IC does, in my case.

My Moon is severely afflicted and that explains all the violence/abuse in my childhood (especially between my parents), as well as the separations and moving to different places.

There was a lot of turmoil and negativity when I was growing up. It definitely wasn't an easy childhood and now I'm working on myself to get rid of destructive and self-defeating thoughts/habits.

posted January 07, 2013 07:40 AM            

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posted January 07, 2013 08:15 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Sun directly on the IC, like less than a degree!

Childhood, childhood...I also have Jupiter and Pluto in the Fourth. Honestly, my family moved a LOT. Like a new house every two years, a new city every five years (Jupiter?). I have lots of siblings and they came and went in my household too.
A major theme in my childhood was my father loving my sister more than me. I always felt like he favoured her and I struggled against her/him (Pluto?).

I'm not sure where the Sun plays in...

[b]EDIT! Oh you said SIGNS! I read planets oops, [/B]

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Totally cool! We can expand the discussion. I am mutable

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posted January 07, 2013 09:16 AM            

From the bits of memory I have of my earliest years, as well as the bits my grandmother recently filled me in on... 0-9 are full of "black holes" for me... lol

I was raised by my grandparents until I was 3, but even after that they were always there, or I was always running away to them. (my earliest memories are packing up my own clothes and toys and leaving, I'd wait on the porch and refuse to come inside until they came for me... Pappy usually made me forget why I was upset. This became normal for me though, and I'd spend the next 20 some years always packing things out of habit; keeping them packed... I still live out of a suitcase, always ready to go somewhere...) ^^

Parents were never together, my mother had my brother's father living with us most of the time (he was in the reserves...) I remember her crying whenever he went away... and I remember she smoked too much then... I did not like my stepfather at all, even back then... but, I can't say how that started... he wasn't violent, per se, but he did enjoy corporal punishment in a very twisted way.

So, my mother and her bad habits had me passed most nights to whichever of my aunts was home or had their older children/stepchildren home, or whichever of the neighborhood kids was old enough to babysit watching me.... there was a lot of ugly stuff that went on then too... but, yeah... life goes on.

We didn't move a lot, I don't think, but we were outside a lot... I don't think I was ever inside unless I was deathly ill... and that happened only once or twice... lol I think. Otherwise we were always on family trips, camping, the beach, fishing, hiking, whatever... those are some of the better fragments of memory I have.

Hmmmm... I really don't remember too much. And, what I do remember isn't suited for this side of the forum... lol

I guess in a nutshell:

I was just over-exposed in my childhood... very Jupiterean, eh (very classical Greek I'd say)? Then, whatever my mind couldn't handle or couldn't make amends with was blocked out, or forgotten. I had one moment when I was in my early teens that a bunch of really bad memories came back... saw a lot of images I wish I hadn't... so I don't mess around with that stuff anymore. I feel it's better to keep it where it is, let sleeping dogs lie.

Overall, I can say my parents were not together, that my father played only an insufficient role in my upbringing, inconstantly so... And that for better or worse I was raised by another man who has quite a few dark demons in his closet, while my mother had a lot of indulgences like food, booze, nicotine, amphetamines, and percocet, (not to mention she was never the one watching me, passing me off to others was her thing); while my birth father was a bartending by profession, drug dealer of great infamy in our region by trade... that my grandparents were my heroes, my best friends, my all, and that the greatest moments I had were spent with them, out in nature, and being surrounded by animals... And, that I had a lot of responsibility too early, and a lot of negative exposure to the evils of the world too young...

This is about as "rated PG 14" as it gets for me.~ sorry! ^^;

I don't know how typical this is for a Sadge IC though =x haha I still think having Chiron so close to the moon, and having the moon as the highest planet in the chart, furthest away... speaks volumes for my relations with my mother and women in general though. The connection I didn't have with my mom, I made up for with my friends (Caner in the 11th), and most of them are actually Cancers... something was needed, and by stars or whatever... it worked out in the end. (course that's me being Sadge dominant, Merc-Jup 4h rule/dominant, and yes..... mutable dominant.... XD ne? if there's a silver-lining... I'll find it! ^^)

posted January 07, 2013 09:32 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
Cap ic. I suppose it has something to do with custody. My cap placements are my grandparents. I have Jupiter in cap. I suppose I am lucky to be born from them. Moon represents mother and how she chose to have full custody. I don't fret over any of it now. It's something I've seen via astro with my reader. In a way I'm lucky for the privilege and freedom but it's still an inconjunct by sign so I suppose those tensions will always be there.

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posted January 07, 2013 10:05 AM            

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Originally posted by stellar_moon:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sand:
[b]Cap ic. I suppose it has something to do with custody. My cap placements are my grandparents. I have Jupiter in cap. I suppose I am lucky to be born from them. Moon represents mother and how she chose to have full custody. I don't fret over any of it now. It's something I've seen via astro with my reader. In a way I'm lucky for the privilege and freedom but it's still an inconjunct by sign so I suppose those tensions will always be there.

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Cool! Yeah I remember u from sass. Tho I remember diff rising. Or maybe that was ur mars I remember. Scorpio.

My grandparents would never literally look after me per se. They were doctors. Always at work. But I would live with them like my dad did until he remarried.

I felt very spoiled as a kid. More Taurus Leo than Capricorn, Saturn, or Scorpio. So I think it is just the energies surrounding my birth.

The one I felt closer to as a child was my nanny who is a Leo. My moon is there but I believe it to be my mom still. She is v v leonine despite not having anything there. She is blonde for one thing lol!

I have the h8 Chiron too. Sorry to hear that..

posted January 07, 2013 07:46 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
Cool! Yeah I remember u from sass. Tho I remember diff rising. Or maybe that was ur mars I remember. Scorpio.

My grandparents would never literally look after me per se. They were doctors. Always at work. But I would live with them like my dad did until he remarried.

I felt very spoiled as a kid. More Taurus Leo than Capricorn, Saturn, or Scorpio. So I think it is just the energies surrounding my birth.

The one I felt closer to as a child was my nanny who is a Leo. My moon is there but I believe it to be my mom still. She is v v leonine despite not having anything there. She is blonde for one thing lol!

I have the h8 Chiron too. Sorry to hear that..

Mine never went to court or anything. Divorce itself between my parents and their family's was already too scandalous back then. Just talks.. I assume I was never there lol! I could ask. But ehh..

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posted January 07, 2013 08:07 PM            

This alone seems to have contributed to me having a difficult and unclear childhood. Neptune, the ruler of my IC, tightly conjuncts Neptune. Both oppose Mars in Cancer at 29 degrees too. Saturn is in my 3rd and disposited by my IC ruler.

Essentially, it means:

a. My childhood had very strange circumstances... mom skipped out on me for an abusive boyfriend at age 8, grandma and other female relatives were all weird even though they meant well [Cancer Mars]
b. I always felt as I grew older and older like I was fighting against my family [Mars-Neptune] but could never even win
c. The way my dad and family treated me made me closed off communicatively to the world more than 1/2 the time and I feel it's inappropriate to show a lot of my emotions

posted January 07, 2013 09:17 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
Leo IC

Very much a maternal dominated family, literally very leonian. Mama lioness or Grandma lioness or Auntie Lioness was always in control.

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posted January 07, 2013 09:25 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Pisces IC, 29th degree.

This alone seems to have contributed to me having a difficult and unclear childhood. Neptune, the ruler of my IC, tightly conjuncts Neptune. Both oppose Mars in Cancer at 29 degrees too. Saturn is in my 3rd and disposited by my IC ruler.

Essentially, it means:

a. My childhood had very strange circumstances... mom skipped out on me for an abusive boyfriend at age 8, grandma and other female relatives were all weird even though they meant well [Cancer Mars]
b. I always felt as I grew older and older like I was fighting against my family [Mars-Neptune] but could never even win
c. The way my dad and family treated me made me closed off communicatively to the world more than 1/2 the time and I feel it's inappropriate to show a lot of my emotions

...nice childhood right ?

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