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vickymadness
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posted January 09, 2013 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend is extremely shy and always acts nervous around this man who works with us ( he has mars/pluto conjunction in Libra ) the man EXUDES a lot of confidence! she sort of likes him ... she's worried that the feelings might not be reciprocal as she thinks that her quite demeanor and nervousness might get in the way ... honestly I think NOT, INFACT, I think these men will certainly like this type as they look for someone to dominate :|

So guys what's your take ? women who experienced these guys can input.

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posted January 09, 2013 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no, they usually like a challenge.

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posted January 09, 2013 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohhh..mars conjunct pluto. Intense.

It all depends on the other aspects, but this one alone is pretty intense.

I am involved with a man with Mars/Pluto/Uranus conjunction. This triple conjunction also conjuncts my mars/venus in synastry...and squares my Uranus!

I tend to respect the power of this conjunction, I ALWAYS keep and eye out for the violence that it can manifest. Not looking for it, just being aware.

In a man I definitely see the sexual implications, the dominating energies. Control would be a possible issue, subconsciously, through sex or sexual energies.

On an individual note, for the person with mars/pluto...Mars would be such a strong driving force for the change that pluto seeks! What great energy to work with if harnessed and developed responsibly!

You would really need to see the charts of both people however to see the energies that they are both working with together.

However I cant see a mars/pluto man in the end having respect for someone who lets them dominate and walk over the other.

annnd...i'm just randomly and erratically thinking and typing..

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posted January 09, 2013 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
no, they usually like a challenge.

Ain't that the truth. Mine got me so riled up the other day I threw a huge Gyro sandwhich at his head. He dodged it, laughed, called me his tornado, gently reshaped my sandwich, put it on a plate for me and kissed me on the forehead. I just stood there fuming.

(I still think if I had directed that sandwich an inch or two to the left, he would have got it right in the noggin! )

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posted January 09, 2013 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True that. I have my sun, mars and pluto conjunct tightly in scorpio (But I'm a gal, so does that count? XD)

But yeah. I think a person with a Mars-Pluto conjunction would prefer someone with a challenge since Mars loves action and Pluto lives for mysteries. The more enigmatic and hard-to-reach a person is, the more exciting it is for them. I can attest to this, since I have that aspect myself XD

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posted January 09, 2013 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Poor she
she doesn't know his birthtime, and I think '' planets '' synastry would work when two people are very close and already experiencing an advection of energy ... But they have short interactions, so angles/planetry aspects is what matters. However she did catch his attention couple of times, and one of the times he seemed so out of place when he saw her.He's a virgo.
The girl is pisces, and she's not weak or someone to walk over, only this man entices her feminine side.

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posted January 09, 2013 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ebou:
Ain't that the truth. Mine got me so riled up the other day I threw a huge Gyro sandwhich at his head. He dodged it, laughed, called me his tornado, gently reshaped my sandwich, put it on a plate for me and kissed me on the forehead. I just stood there fuming.

(I still think if I had directed that sandwich an inch or two to the left, he would have got it right in the noggin! )


Hmmm, that's what they want to incite you to get a reaction from you. They LOVE it.

You need to make them work harder to get you to react. Believe me it will pay off.

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posted January 09, 2013 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Poor she
she doesn't know his birthtime, and I think '' planets '' synastry would work when two people are very close and already experiencing an advection of energy ... But they have short interactions, so angles/planetry aspects is what matters. However she did catch his attention couple of times, and one of the times he seemed so out of place when he saw her.He's a virgo.
The girl is pisces, and she's not weak or someone to walk over, only this man entices her feminine side.

well you need to tell her to restrain her feminine side a bit. If she makes herself readily available, he will lose interest. Just my 2 cts.

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posted January 09, 2013 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't cross a man who has Mars conjunct Pluto. I bet he would make a formidable opponent, unless the aspect was in his 12th house.

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posted January 09, 2013 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
some have had awful experiences with men who have this aspect.
maybe you can post the chart?
does the person have saturn in cancer?

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posted January 09, 2013 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux RÍve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My best friend is smitten with a guy who has Mars sq Pluto *and* he has Scorp Sun conjunct Saturn. I've never met him but from what she tells me, he seems to be critical and demanding; and can be quite harsh.. They work together so they don't know each other on a very personal level though.

I wonder how the square usually manifests?
Control issues, power games, yada yada but to a higher degree and more problematic in personal relationships?


And yes I bet they like a challenge.

I know a guy who has Sun/Mars/Pluto conjunct in Scorpio and his gf seems to be the one who dominates, it's like she's the one who controls the whole thing and definitely *isn't* submissive.

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posted January 09, 2013 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the conjunction. They're usually confident people. I trust confident people who like themselves - because they are not likely to go around harming others.

The opposition and the square make for more insecure men who bite at other people due to their own issues.

With the conjunction they are simply decisive (even in Libra!)... so they are clear on what they want and what they don't want. You'll usually know where you stand with them (It's similar to Scorpio Mars in this sense).
So- either your friend is his type or she's not - basically.
It depends on their synastry.

Mars/Pluto conj are not the kinds of people who would start a relationship or a sexual experience - just for fun... or just out of curiosity.
If there isn't an intense connection - they just won't go there.

:edit: About the women they are interested in.... In my experience they like strong women who could climb a mountain or 'take on the world' (so to speak).. on their own if necessary.
If she reminds them of a superhero - they'll like her all the more lol

But this is not about sexual shyness or being a challenge.

It's more about what she does in her life, in her career - what she has been through - what she has overcome etc...
Whether or not he sees her a strong person overall... whether she has her own opinions, values, things she stands for....

They admire strong-mindedness. Libra is an air sign - so they are more impressed by intellectual strength and by someone who is psychologically tough.... rather than physical strength.

For instance - if this guy found out - your friend has been through something very difficult/challenging in life that she overcame - that would have a more significant impact on him & how he sees her.... rather than her being shy/confident - around him socially.

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posted January 09, 2013 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about a Mars/Pluto conjunct for a Leo Sun with Scorpio Asc? It seems the strength or confidence would be all the more accentuated.

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posted January 09, 2013 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the Mars/Pluto conjunction in Libra and I've dated men with the Mars/Pluto conjunction in Libra and the Mars/Pluto conjunction in Scorpio.

A challenge is more exciting, gives the desired friction.

My experience.

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posted January 09, 2013 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Belage: I wouldn't cross a man who has Mars conjunct Pluto. I bet he would make a formidable opponent, unless the aspect was in his 12th house.

Luka Magnotta has the Mars/Pluto conjunction in Libra. Tight.

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posted January 09, 2013 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE][b]Belage: I wouldn't cross a man who has Mars conjunct Pluto. I bet he would make a formidable opponent, unless the aspect was in his 12th house.

Luka Magnotta has the Mars/Pluto conjunction in Libra. Tight.

[/B][/QUOTE]

I agree totally. He is intimidating bordering scary when provoked. Uranus conj. does not help it either....he has earned my respect.

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posted January 09, 2013 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I like the conjunction. They're usually confident people. I trust confident people who like themselves - because they are not likely to go around harming others.

The opposition and the square make for more insecure men who bite at other people due to their own issues.

With the conjunction they are simply decisive (even in Libra!)... so they are clear on what they want and what they don't want. You'll usually know where you stand with them (It's similar to Scorpio Mars in this sense).
So- either your friend is his type or she's not - basically.
It depends on their synastry.

Mars/Pluto conj are not the kinds of people who would start a relationship or a sexual experience - just for fun... or just out of curiosity.
If there isn't an intense connection - they just won't go there.

:edit: About the women they are interested in.... In my experience they like strong women who could climb a mountain or 'take on the world' (so to speak).. on their own if necessary.
If she reminds them of a superhero - they'll like her all the more lol

But this is not about sexual shyness or being a challenge.

It's more about what she does in her life, in her career - what she has been through - what she has overcome etc...
Whether or not he sees her a strong person overall... whether she has her own opinions, values, things she stands for....

They admire strong-mindedness. Libra is an air sign - so they are more impressed by intellectual strength and by someone who is psychologically tough.... rather than physical strength.

For instance - if this guy found out - your friend has been through something very difficult/challenging in life that she overcame - that would have a more significant impact on him & how he sees her.... rather than her being shy/confident - around him socially.



Depends on the entire chart. I know a Mars conjunct Pluto and Uranus (with Neptune opposite his sun), and I think for him it's more about liking the idea of the 'victim' that he feels he has to save/fix/heal (the Mars Pluto conjunction is in Virgo, the sign associated with a desire to serve, fix and heal) than it is about being attracted to people because they appear 'strong'.

When I was 'with' him he had a weird tendency to always refer to me and my life with really negative, fatalistic phrases and adjectives...I realized he had this whole 'tragic figure' image in his head about me that wasn't even true. At first I found it confusing then later on as he continued to refer to me that way, I started to get ****** off by it, and I'd repeatedly state that things weren't that way, and that I didn't need the 'help'. I think at this point it was more that he had some kind of subconscious desire/need to see me that way, because he can only really be attracted to people who have gone through alot or are broken in some way. He likes fixer-uppers; it's that whole sun-neptune thing working in tandem with the Mars-Pluto in Virgo, the two energies working in one chart aren't that much different from the virgo-pisces axis, "Let me serve and SAVE you!", type energy.

Plus his sense of self isn't really that strong either - again, it's the sun-neppy at play. So I think when he sees someone that he views as a tragic victim (neptune), he gets confused psychologically and starts to view them as a part of him - in fact, he actually used to make comments along those lines too.

He eventually moved on when he found people that were more f**ked up than he assumed I was LOL. I hope he eventually does find his dream girl - who will probably be a blind, deaf, dumb, homeless chick that was gang-raped by Al Qaeda members, had one leg hacked off, kept herself fed by turning tricks before giving birth to eight kids that were taken by her pimp and sold into black-market slavery before she escaped, became a nun and developed a heroin addiction that got her booted from the convent after seeing her parents blown to bits by landmines.

*rimshot*

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posted January 09, 2013 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:

:edit: About the women they are interested in.... In my experience they like strong women who could climb a mountain or 'take on the world' (so to speak).. on their own if necessary.
If she reminds them of a superhero - they'll like her all the more lol

But this is not about sexual shyness or being a challenge.


This thread is an ego boost for me

My husband has Mars-Pluto-Mercury. He is really brilliant, extremely masculine...he can be intimidating at times. The aspect has its pros and cons.

I have a loose air grand trine with Mercury, Mars, 3H Pluto.

He does like it when I am just mild and sweet, but I don't think he would have married me if I wasn't mentally tough.

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posted January 09, 2013 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the dude has his sun conjunct saturn. Dayum.
venus(in libra)conjunct mars, but venus doesn't conjunct pluto. Moon is somewhere in libra too.
My opinion on him is similar to the idea Stacy has brought, and since he's a virgo ( he's soo virgoy dispite the libra stellium) he will be attracted to people who are going through harsh times and my friend has definitly been through A LOT, she 's soo deep and quite, very enigmatic, I'm sure he has a hard time reading her. Especially with his feminine signs being in libra, I wouldn't think he'll go for the challenging/dominating types. He's highly masculine, and she's highly feminine i think the strong polarity will definitly play an attraction.


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posted January 09, 2013 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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StacyLewis: I hope he eventually does find his dream girl - who will probably be a blind, deaf, dumb, homeless chick that was gang-raped by Al Qaeda members, had one leg hacked off, kept herself fed by turning tricks before giving birth to eight kids that were taken by her pimp and sold into black-market slavery before she escaped, became a nun and developed a heroin addiction that got her booted from the convent after seeing her parents blown to bits by landmines.

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*rimshot*

Absolutely!

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posted January 09, 2013 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux RÍve:
but from what she tells me, he seems to be critical and demanding; and can be quite harsh..

yes very true. Actually he used to be my boss before I was transported, and oh my, his demands were endless but ofcourse I ignored most of them and did things as I wished, and I was dominating most of the plans/timelines ... And I can say he was very irritated by my nature.

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posted January 09, 2013 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StacyLewis:

I hope he eventually does find his dream girl - who will probably be a blind, deaf, dumb, homeless chick that was gang-raped by Al Qaeda members, had one leg hacked off, kept herself fed by turning tricks before giving birth to eight kids that were taken by her pimp and sold into black-market slavery before she escaped, became a nun and developed a heroin addiction that got her booted from the convent after seeing her parents blown to bits by landmines.

*rimshot*



Stacy,, this blew my mind

Too funny!

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posted January 10, 2013 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Depends on the entire chart. I know a Mars conjunct Pluto and Uranus (with Neptune opposite his sun), and I think for him it's more about liking the idea of the 'victim' that he feels he has to save/fix/heal (the Mars Pluto conjunction is in Virgo, the sign associated with a desire to serve, fix and heal) than it is about being attracted to people because they appear 'strong'.

When I was 'with' him he had a weird tendency to always refer to me and my life with really negative, fatalistic phrases and adjectives...I realized he had this whole 'tragic figure' image in his head about me that wasn't even true. At first I found it confusing then later on as he continued to refer to me that way, I started to get ****** off by it, and I'd repeatedly state that things weren't that way, and that I didn't need the 'help'. I think at this point it was more that he had some kind of subconscious desire/need to see me that way, because he can only really be attracted to people who have gone through alot or are broken in some way. He likes fixer-uppers; it's that whole sun-neptune thing working in tandem with the Mars-Pluto in Virgo, the two energies working in one chart aren't that much different from the virgo-pisces axis, "Let me serve and SAVE you!", type energy.

Plus his sense of self isn't really that strong either - again, it's the sun-neppy at play. So I think when he sees someone that he views as a tragic victim (neptune), he gets confused psychologically and starts to view them as a part of him - in fact, he actually used to make comments along those lines too.

He eventually moved on when he found people that were more f**ked up than he assumed I was LOL. I hope he eventually does find his dream girl - who will probably be a blind, deaf, dumb, homeless chick that was gang-raped by Al Qaeda members, had one leg hacked off, kept herself fed by turning tricks before giving birth to eight kids that were taken by her pimp and sold into black-market slavery before she escaped, became a nun and developed a heroin addiction that got her booted from the convent after seeing her parents blown to bits by landmines.

*rimshot*


^ I wonder how much of that need to save and the delusion quality to it were due to Neptune opp his Sun.. doesn't sound like Mars-Pluto to me.

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posted January 10, 2013 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Right.

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posted January 10, 2013 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I avoid them like the plague, very selfish and manipulating. they cut you of in a flash.

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