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Ceridwen
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posted January 09, 2013 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Violet,

I thought about starting a new thread on age harmonic to not mix them up with the 12th harmonic.


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Could you maybe give the placements of Vertex as well?

Also are you sure about your birthtime (even one minute can make a difference with harmonics!)?

I am asking cause your AH ASC is JUST out of orb for conjuncting your MC.

(the orb is one degree; I am actually using the 1°30))

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posted January 09, 2013 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Allright, the outstanding pattern to me in your AH is

Moon on SN opposite NN square Sun (your AH NN is conjunct my Neptune-NN EXACT. how interesting!)
And NN trines natal NN


With Moon on SN family or emotional relationships are highlighted. Something from the past is coming back or coming to light.
If it is nto about the family, it might be a soulmate coming into your life, or someone you have known in a past life and had a strong emotional attachment to.
Also, it is in Gemini, the sign of duality, the sign of twins. I know Geminis are not really associated with emotional soulbonding, but I have always found it interesting that there is actually a [b]sign[/n] relating to twins. Moon is representative of the soul.
Put one and one together, and it might add up to 11.

I am rambling, don`t mind me. LOL
It`s probably nunsense.


But back to your AH. There is also a Sun-Moon-square, some very intense emotional development might occur, though it might be a bumpy road at times.
But provides you with the capacity and potential of getting very clear about who you are. Identity might be a big thing this year.
Also, it is out of orb, but I found it interesting that your natal Sun is so near to Moon and SN (and of course also in the sign of the twins).

The NN-NN-trine looks nice; should reduce the drama a little, and instead make for some steady smooth growing gradualy on your lifepath.


AH Moon/ SN in your 8th and AH Sun in your 5th - well, I`d say some deep emotions are highlighted. Also sexuality.
Actually the 8th house is quite prominent this year.

Also Venus in Cancer is sextile MC, and Venus rules the 8th house. Love and attraction, probably a very caring kind, almost family-like, might be highlighted. At least the potential is there, though with the sextile it will probably sneak up on you and gradually process into something, instead of breaking into your life like 'BOOM. (unless of course Vertex has his fingers in the brew)


HOwever since your angles do not seem to be triggered (unless Vertex...), it might not be that obviously huge and impressive. (though internally it probably are very important processes; angle-action would make it more obvious and helping it manifest in the outside world though)


Oh I kind of missed that your AH MC is square your natal Saturn. I guess that might slow down any development. You might trip over your own feet, keeping back in certain regards, probably out of feelings of insecurity ('Saturn in the 2nd house). On the other hand Saturn has a long breath.


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posted January 09, 2013 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Could you maybe give the placements of Vertex as well?

Also are you sure about your birthtime (even one minute can make a difference with harmonics!)?

I am asking cause your AH ASC is JUST out of orb for conjuncting your MC.


My AH Vertex is 13'50 Libra and my Natal Vertex is 16'41 Gemini. Yes, my birth time is correct.

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posted January 10, 2013 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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With Moon on SN family or emotional relationships are highlighted. Something from the past is coming back or coming to light.
If it is nto about the family, it might be a soulmate coming into your life, or someone you have known in a past life and had a strong emotional attachment to.
Also, it is in Gemini, the sign of duality, the sign of twins. I know Geminis are not really associated with emotional soulbonding, but I have always found it interesting that there is actually a sign relating to twins. Moon is representative of the soul.
Put one and one together, and it might add up to 11.


I am rambling, don`t mind me. LOL
It`s probably nunsense.


You know I actually looked past this looking into other things but man do I have to tell you something. It is very interesting that you have mentioned this right now. I have been seeing the #11 a lot recently(have even posted about in teh "as the soul slumbers" section. The SN and Moon is interesting, I will def tell you what becomes of it in the future. My bf is the Gemini in my life currently and he is the one I see the 11's around mostly. Again very very interesting you mentioned that in those words. Your rambling seems to be sewn into my fate some how..lol! And yeah my AH NN on your Natal NN and neptune, you should be good guidence for me this year =]

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But back to your AH. There is also a Sun-Moon-square, some very intense emotional development might occur, though it might be a bumpy road at times.
But provides you with the capacity and potential of getting very clear about who you are. Identity might be a big thing this year.
Also, it is out of orb, but I found it interesting that your natal Sun is so near to Moon and SN (and of course also in the sign of the twins).

Yes, I had decided finding my own would be my resolution this year and so this matches well with the direction of my AH. Natal Sun being close to SN and Moon though also give me the impression I will be tranformed by something already previously expereinced, but might be perfected this time. Moon-SN in my expereince always deals with familiar territory.


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The NN-NN-trine looks nice; should reduce the drama a little, and instead make for some steady smooth growing gradualy on your lifepath.

Im glad to see this as well as I generally find being born Libra Rising with Aries North Node(and Libra SN in my 12th) is a bit tricky.


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AH Moon/ SN in your 8th and AH Sun in your 5th - well, I`d say some deep emotions are highlighted. Also sexuality.
Actually the 8th house is quite prominent this year.

Also Venus in Cancer is sextile MC, and Venus rules the 8th house. Love and attraction, probably a very caring kind, almost family-like, might be highlighted. At least the potential is there, though with the sextile it will probably sneak up on you and gradually process into something, instead of breaking into your life like 'BOOM. (unless of course Vertex has his fingers in the brew)



Agin, looking forward to it.

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posted January 10, 2013 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen,

The first hunch I get from your AH chart alone is romance or creativity might be on your mind and/or highlighted. Your AH Venus in Taurus( royalty) is sextile Uranus and Mercury. Something, surprising could happen regarding romance. Also, because it is a sextile aspect maybe an exciting surprise. Your Venus is also trine Moon which is Opposite Mercury, which to me says lovey-dovey feelings rule over mind.

And though I would rather not get into the asteroids, Valentine on your ASC is pretty tight and close to Sun.

Your Mars-Neptune suggests you might feel a need to explore and innovate through your imagination this year. Creativity might flow and you might find it easy to indulge and find some freedom in that. You could have days where you feel really complled to do only that. Your drive and emoitions might have its highs and lows this year.With your Natal Moon also opposing this your emotions are envolved here too. Some days you might feel really drained of energy.(Try and relax these days imo.)

Sun-ASC trine NN seems like a nice one. Your enternal energy and outlook blends well with your path ahead. You might find it easier to move forward with what your striving for this year. Some goals you have set for yourself will be accomplished.

AH NN hitting natal 9th house and Moon in Natal 9th as well. I guess this gives a Push to your Natal NN again. Moon being in nNatal 9th highlights boundless emotions or just feeling the need to explore more, learn more. Exploring your spirituality this year could give you inner peace and comfort.

AH saturn and Natal saturn in 8th suggests 8th house themes are strained or are not very differnt than usual which means more importance is put on your lifepath creativity and spirituality this year.

And of course AH Sun in 4th, emotional about and/or more focused on family life.

=] well..hope it helps.. you seem to have it real smooth compared to me. lol i have past life attachments for some years now! Although I feel positive vibrations from this year so keeping an open mind

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posted January 10, 2013 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ceridwen,

Please excuse this interruption here, but wanted to draw your attention to a thread addressed to you in Readings. Just in case you hadn't seen it! Thanks.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/005530.html

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posted January 10, 2013 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 11, 2013 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am terribly curious about the yod inside a mystic rectangle in my age harmonics. What does it signify?

Natal:


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posted January 11, 2013 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bad...

But it gets better...

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posted January 13, 2013 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Violet,

"Again very very interesting you mentioned that in those words. Your rambling seems to be sewn into my fate some how..lol!"
LOL
It felt important for some reason.
Also if you take a closer look at the symbol for Gemini, the basis of it really is two vertical lines, which is the Roman I or 1, so basically the Gemini symbol IS 11. LOL

"Moon-SN in my expereince always deals with familiar territory."
Yes.

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posted January 13, 2013 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sand,

not really sure what you want me to do.

Okay, I have a pretty clear idea, but I like to be asked.

I also would prefer to make this a discussion thread about age harmonics in general, of course on the basis of individual experiences.
Otherwise it might get transferred to Personal readings.


Guideline for interpreting these age harmonics are looking for aspects within the harmonic and to the natal charts, but keeping the aspects to an orb of 1 degree appr.

I am going to post an article on these later on.

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posted January 13, 2013 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Violet,


"The first hunch I get from your AH chart alone is romance or creativity might be on your mind and/or highlighted."
Yes, I think you are definitely right.


" Your AH Venus in Taurus( royalty) is sextile Uranus and Mercury. Something, surprising could happen regarding romance. Also, because it is a sextile aspect maybe an exciting surprise."
I LIKE that.

Well, I have several things scheduled this year.
In march I am off to a small village in Germany to watch the musical "Aida".
In June I am off to another city for Bloody Con, and as of now Ian Somerhalder, Paul Wesley, Mark Sheppard and David Anders are on the confirmed guestlist (can always change in the last minute though). I was there last year as well and had a blast of a time.
Just soakening in the athmosphere.

And at the end of the year over New Year actually Iam meeting up with a Swedish friend in London, and we are going to go see Jude Law on stage once more (have done so in 2011 already) in "Henry V".

So quite diverse artistical projects, and I am looking forward to every single one of them.

And I am really hoping to be able to go to an unplugged concert of a local band again. REally really do.

"Your Venus is also trine Moon which is Opposite Mercury, which to me says lovey-dovey feelings rule over mind."
I fear that might be true.

"You might find it easier to move forward with what your striving for this year. Some goals you have set for yourself will be accomplished."
Really hope so.
I have started with the Weight Watchers program end of november, and have already lost 8 kilos as of now.
I am hoping to shed at least 12 more until the end of year, hopefully more.
I have got a good feeling about this. It feels different than it used to be; I guess I am just in a different frame of mind.


" Moon being in nNatal 9th highlights boundless emotions or just feeling the need to explore more, learn more. Exploring your spirituality this year could give you inner peace and comfort."
Yes, and I am going to travel. I LOVE these short trips. LOL

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AH saturn and Natal saturn in 8th suggests 8th house themes are strained or are not very differnt than usual which means more importance is put on your lifepath creativity and spirituality this year."
Actually I think it means this is a time to address the natal issues and complexes surrounding that, time for reevaluation and finding the courage to make the necessary modification.
As a matter of fact it has already started.


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posted January 13, 2013 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lunae:
I am terribly curious about the yod inside a mystic rectangle in my age harmonics. What does it signify?

Natal:



I wouldnīt consider the mystical triangle as horribly important, as the orbs are on the wide side. I rather focus on the focal themes, to not lose the overview.

The Yod however is very tight orbed.
Readjustment of your emotional core and feelings (romantic and caring) especially in relation to career and public image. Snce an angle is involved, it is a very important development.
Keep your eyes on transits triggering this Yod by exact conjunctions.


Also relationships and either make them official or how they come across on a public level might be an important issue to work out.

AH Venus opposes your natal Jupiter, which rules your DESC, and Venus rules your 5th house and the AH MC.
of course it could also mean that you will become creative and want to go public with your creativity this year.

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posted January 13, 2013 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StacyLewis:
Bad...

But it gets better...



Can you tell how the Age harmonic related to experiences of that year?
For example I am curious if you can relate some experiences to the Mars-Uranus-opposition in there. Especially since it is squaring ASC.

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posted January 13, 2013 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sand,

is it the harmonic of the past year (2012-2013 up to your birthday)?

How did you experience the Venus-Saturn-opposition?
Blockages in the relationship-area?
Venus rules your DESC and Saturn rules your IC.
And the Venus-Saturn opposition falls along your natal MC-IC.
And maybe involves Mercury, as ruler of the 8th and 11th house.
Were there any obstacles, difficulties in realtionships having to do with your personal (family or friends) or official (career) environment?
Like your environment did not approve of a girlfriend or crush or the way you approached relationships in general?

Or how would you relate it to past experiences?

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posted January 13, 2013 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am posting some articles from Alice Portman on Age harmonics. I found them highly interesting, and I find her to be a very consistent astrologer, which is quite refreshing (I am a bit tired of reading books by astrologers who are constantly bending their own rules to make the charts "fit".)

"You can see what part of yourself you develop at each year of life by using the relevant harmonic.

If the harmonic chart describes a powerful year or is connected to your birthdate harmonics, you can see the people that will come into your life in the future (who are related to that harmonic), by the signs and degrees of the harmonic chart.

The harmonic charts that are related to any major pattern you have in your natal chart are very important.

The harmonic charts that are related to your birthday and birth date total are going to be very important as these are powerful developmental years.

If you have a close to exact time of birth the harmonic chart for your birthday will often quite clearly describe the situations and events of the coming year. If the Age Harmonic Chart aligns to the natal chart with orbs within one degree, then it is likely that the year will be quite important in your life."
http://aliceportman.com/age-harmonics/


We are talking about the age harmonics here, which are valid for the whole year. There is a technique to arrive at Daily harmonics though (I have Solar Fire, so I just give in the data, and get my daily harmonic, so it is easy for me, it is now easy with astro.com though).
The daily harmonics are calculated for a certain day or event, and boy, they sure are telling!


"Daily Age Harmonics are calculated for the exact day of an event.

The Daily Age Harmonic chart will always trigger the angles of the natal chart and/or the Daily Age Harmonic chart at the time of important events in the life.

Daily Age Harmonic charts can be read as stand alone charts but they are particularly effective when compared to the radix or Year Harmonic charts."

"Relationship Harmonics
In an event like a marriage or association of any kind, the Age Harmonic of one person usually triggers the natal chart of the other."

"The Daily Age Harmonic charts move so quickly that these connections could only be there for a day or two, so if the time of birth is inaccurate there are no connections to angles, or often the Moon." http://aliceportman.com/prince-williams-age-harmonics-for-his-wedding/

on "triggers"


"Daily Age Harmonics move very fast, so they are always contacting Age Harmonic and natal planets and angles. Therefore they need planetary transits to bring potential events into the outer world. Usually, if there is no planetary transit(s) to an Age Harmonic Chart (which is also activating the natal chart), no event will happen. The process will stay internal."

"The Progressed Moon can be a particularly powerful point. If the Progressed Moon is in exact aspect to a natal planet or angle, a Daily Age Harmonic point (particularly an angle) moving over that point at the same time, will often trigger an event."
http://aliceportman.com/daily-age-harmonics/

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posted January 13, 2013 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Sand,

not really sure what you want me to do.

Okay, I have a pretty clear idea, but I like to be asked.


Please please please rook at my harmonics ceri!

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posted January 13, 2013 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I actually already did.
Okay, I only picked the outstanding feature. But I am really curious how you can relate to that Venus-Saturn-opposition.

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posted January 13, 2013 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I wouldnīt consider the mystical triangle as horribly important, as the orbs are on the wide side. I rather focus on the focal themes, to not lose the overview.

The Yod however is very tight orbed.
Readjustment of your emotional core and feelings (romantic and caring) especially in relation to career and public image. Snce an angle is involved, it is a very important development.
Keep your eyes on transits triggering this Yod by exact conjunctions.


Also relationships and either make them official or how they come across on a public level might be an important issue to work out.

AH Venus opposes your natal Jupiter, which rules your DESC, and Venus rules your 5th house and the AH MC.
of course it could also mean that you will become creative and want to go public with your creativity this year.


So that's what it is This is be a warning sign for me, really. If I'm not careful, I think I might be in for the biggest scandal of my life because of my emotions and romantic feelings. O.O

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Sand,

is it the harmonic of the past year (2012-2013 up to your birthday)?

How did you experience the Venus-Saturn-opposition?
Blockages in the relationship-area?
Venus rules your DESC and Saturn rules your IC.
And the Venus-Saturn opposition falls along your natal MC-IC.
And maybe involves Mercury, as ruler of the 8th and 11th house.
Were there any obstacles, difficulties in realtionships having to do with your personal (family or friends) or official (career) environment?
Like your environment did not approve of a girlfriend or crush or the way you approached relationships in general?

Or how would you relate it to past experiences?


Yes 5 months to go! Can we look at the 29th too? Coz that's supposed to be the start of my 20 best years!

Well I moved right around my birthday. A week or so after. With my dad. Saturn.

No I don't think any crushes or gf's were disapproved but I think it was a very disapproving year overall for sand and his environment.

I did feel the strain of wanting to connect with people but idk.. They seemed all wrong for me. At least the ones I picked prior..

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I actually already did.
Okay, I only picked the outstanding feature. But I am really curious how you can relate to that Venus-Saturn-opposition.


Thank you dear!

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posted January 13, 2013 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lunae:
If I'm not careful, I think I might be in for the biggest scandal of my life because of my emotions and romantic feelings. O.O


That would actually be a fitting description. Your romantic feelings being signified by Moon-Venus-sextile; very strong, too, with Venus being exalted and Moon being exalted, too. Usually marks quite some intensity (sometimes even exaggeration). It is a very nice sextile, donīt get me wrong. Beautiful even.
But with the quinkunxes to MC, yes, there needs to be adjustment. You could become more known than you might expect to, or even want to. And since MC is ruled by that exalted Venus, yes, if you are falling in love (and if you are falling in love with someone you maybe should not get involved with) then you won`t be able to keep it a "secret".


As you can see the AH MC is also square your natal Uranus/NN-conjunction in 7th house (while AH VEnus and AH Moon sextile and trine it); I`d say expect sudden and surprisng developments in the relationship department hitting you out oft he blue. and with the square to MC, be cautious as in regard to possible scandals or gossip.

However it also can simply mean love at first sight, that will change your current social status. Just to point out a more positive possibility.

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posted January 13, 2013 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I did feel the strain of wanting to connect with people but idk.. They seemed all wrong for me. At least the ones I picked prior..

That sounds like a textbook description of Venus-Saturn-opposition.


sure you can look at your 29th year as well. Your 20 best years, hu?

like that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3_hEGDaLXQ


or like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kq8BoLVNXU

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