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Randall
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posted January 11, 2013 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/2013ChineseHoroscope.htm

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posted January 11, 2013 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Water Snake Year 2013 The Chinese follow two calendars, Solar and Lunar. The Year of the Water Snake begins February 4, 2013 and follows the Solar calendar. This is the calendar most often used in Chinese Feng Shui and metaphysics. This is not to be confused with Chinese New Year which follows the Lunar calendar and will fall on Feb 10 and is on a different day each year.
http://pinterest.com/wlotusfengshui/water-snake-year-2013/

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posted January 11, 2013 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/10/year-of-the-water-snake-what-to-expect-in-2013/

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posted January 11, 2013 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Solar Chinese New Year begins February 4 and the Lunar Chinese New Year begins February 10.
http://anniejenningspr.com/jenningswire/metaphysics/female-water-snake-2013-facing-a-year-of-transformation/

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posted January 11, 2013 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by msrandomorangee:
hey i'm a water monkey too i would like to know , as well..

We gon' die gurl!

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posted January 11, 2013 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Water Snake Year 2013 The Chinese follow two calendars, Solar and Lunar. The Year of the Water Snake begins February 4, 2013 and follows the Solar calendar. This is the calendar most often used in Chinese Feng Shui and metaphysics. This is not to be confused with Chinese New Year which follows the Lunar calendar and will fall on Feb 10 and is on a different day each year.
http://pinterest.com/wlotusfengshui/water-snake-year-2013/

Interesting. So the lunar calendar begins on the Aquarius New Moon. The first Lunar Month of the coming year? There is definitely some contradiction here between Chinese Astrologers if they are listing the change of the year sign and the change of the Lunar Month as the same thing.

Is the Solar new year meant to be on February 4th each year?

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posted January 11, 2013 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I thought snakes and rabbits got along.

My guy is a water rabbit rising, and I'm a wood snake rising.


"Rising" huh? What? That's Western terminology.

Do you mean the hour sign? That adds complexity because you also need to take into account heavenly stem. I was dealing only with simple year horoscope.

Are you sure you are a Wood Snake? Your picture tells me you are way way too young to be a Wood Snake, although Water Rabbit is separated from Wood Snake by two years. That puts you in the era of JFK, MLK and the Beatles and Elvis, which I doubt.

Anyway, I am a Rabbit and my wife is a Monkey. It's supposed to be a disastrous combination. It works alright.

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posted January 11, 2013 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chinese New Year is called the Lunar New Year for good reason. There's no Sun! Solar doesn't factor in. Chinese people looked at the Moon in the sky. who created Solar New Year? It is a Western concoction!

Of course, Indians call Western astrology a joke too. So who knows.

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posted January 11, 2013 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^
I've heard of the chinese astrological birth charts.
I asked a friend about those, and he told me no one in china actually uses that system. Its kind of made up lol

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posted January 11, 2013 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^. There is an ultra high level of complexity that is not appreciated. We are discussing only the most trivial element, which is the year sign. The important one is the Day Master, and associated with that is an element, a heavenly stem with its own element, and either Yin or Yang energy. Now, extend that to Hour, Day, Month, Year and incorporate nuances for generation cycles. It is complex beyond belief.

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posted January 11, 2013 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Chinese New Year is called the Lunar New Year for good reason. There's no Sun! Solar doesn't factor in. Chinese people looked at the Moon in the sky. who created Solar New Year? It is a Western concoction!

Of course, Indians call Western astrology a joke too. So who knows.


Hey, you're Chinese aren't you. Do Chinese people in general consider the new Animal year to be starting on the Lunar New Moon, at Chinese New Year. Or is the Animal year change at a slightly different date? Now I'm confused by this whole February 4th Solar Year thing. It makes it hard for those born in January and February to really know for sure what Year Animal they really are.

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posted January 11, 2013 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
^^. There is an ultra high level of complexity that is not appreciated. We are discussing only the most trivial element, which is the year sign. The important one is the Day Master, and associated with that is an element, a heavenly stem with its own element, and either Yin or Yang energy. Now, extend that to Hour, Day, Month, Year and incorporate nuances for generation cycles. It is complex beyond belief.

So true. Real Chinese astrology is complex like Western is. I've explored Western, Vedic, and Chinese astrology. I think they all have something valid to offer. Numerology too. Western Astrology is the main one that I use, but I certainly don't discount the others. That's like those people that discount Western Astro without even exploring it, and seeing first hand how amazing it really is! It's like what Isaac Newton said, when Edmond Halley voiced negative comments about astrology... “Sir Halley, I have studied the matter, you have not!”

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posted January 11, 2013 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotis White,

The Chinese horoscope coincides with Lunar cycles, which are 28 days uniformly, unlike the Western calendar of 30/31 days with sometimes 28/29. That is inherently confusing to traditional Chinese thought. Remember that Chinese science began about 4000 years before Galileo and Copernicus. You look at a sky, you can see a full moon, and then a new moon, and then a larger crescent. Lo and behold, it's a full moon 28 days later.

If I follow Western thinking, assuming no weather changes, looking at the Sun tells me nothing.

So, animals for the year cycle begin precisely on each Chinese New Year and end the next. Those born as Capricorns and Aquariuses have a heck of a time figuring out what animal they are. Lol. For example, my eldest son is a Pig. Most of his classmates in school are Mice.

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posted January 11, 2013 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lotis White,

The Chinese horoscope coincides with Lunar cycles, which are 28 days uniformly, unlike the Western calendar of 30/31 days with sometimes 28/29. That is inherently confusing to traditional Chinese thought. Remember that Chinese science began about 4000 years before Galileo and Copernicus. You look at a sky, you can see a full moon, and then a new moon, and then a larger crescent. Lo and behold, it's a full moon 28 days later.

If I follow Western thinking, assuming no weather changes, looking at the Sun tells me nothing.

So, animals for the year cycle begin precisely on each Chinese New Year and end the next. Those born as Capricorns and Aquariuses have a heck of a time figuring out what animal they are. Lol. For example, my eldest son is a Pig. Most of his classmates in school are Mice.


Thanks.

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posted January 11, 2013 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Rising Sign (Inner Companion) is very important, because it alters the main Sign.

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posted January 11, 2013 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I want to check this out! Can anyone give me a good link?

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posted January 11, 2013 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww well next year shall be my year.

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posted January 11, 2013 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A huge amount of info on it here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum33/HTML/000018.html

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posted January 12, 2013 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Hehe I have a water snake asc.
This year can't be so bad.
Also wood snake month
My day is a fire horse. Not sure what the day means.

Also thank you for the link!!!
Awesome links inside the links too 0_o

Also I love snakes so much, I have one too haha.
I think they're just gorgeous and seductive creatures.
Just like myself
I relate to them more then monkeys, I think.

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posted January 12, 2013 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
The Rising Sign (Inner Companion) is very important, because it alters the main Sign.


Randall, Thanks. But this is completely different from the standard BaZi methodology that uses Day Master.

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posted January 12, 2013 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
"Rising" huh? What? That's Western terminology.

Do you mean the hour sign? That adds complexity because you also need to take into account heavenly stem. I was dealing only with simple year horoscope.

Are you sure you are a Wood Snake? Your picture tells me you are way way too young to be a Wood Snake, although Water Rabbit is separated from Wood Snake by two years. That puts you in the era of JFK, MLK and the Beatles and Elvis, which I doubt.

Anyway, I am a Rabbit and my wife is a Monkey. It's supposed to be a disastrous combination. It works alright.


My bad, I am a wood snake hour sign. I was born in 1990 so I am a metal horse.

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posted January 12, 2013 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What was it 2012?? Water Dragon? I am a Fire Dragon and it was absolutely horrible for me!! Hope this year is better..

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posted January 12, 2013 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What was it 2012?? Water Dragon? I am a Fire Dragon and it was absolutely horrible for me!! Hope this year is better..

Fire element suffers in the year of Water, which smothers Fire. It's intuitive.

Snakes and Dragons match well. You'll have a mixed year.

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