posted January 15, 2013 05:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
Lots of Scorpio people cheat so no, 'loyalty until death' isn't really likely.

Lots of Scorpios are deceitful and lack morals, so you shouldn't generalise because it really depends on an individual's chart.

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You sound very jaded.
For someone who acts more like a libra, you sure have jumped into conclusions about this story instead of taking both sides of the issue into account.

So which one is it? We shouldn't generalize but lots of scorpio are cheaters and deceitful? Sounds like a contradiction to me.
I can say the same for all signs and people at a particular age period, especially, teenagers to young adults.

posted January 15, 2013 05:24 AM            

I've had bad experiences, so I've learnt from them, I'm just drawing conclusions from what the OP has told us. The other member said Scorpio's are loyal to death, and I'm just saying that's not exactly true because alot of them DO cheat and it really all comes down to their Venus and Mars signs and aspects to determine loyalty. It's like when people say Sags like to cheat, that's not true either. Alot of Sags are very faithful and it's again down to placements.

posted January 15, 2013 05:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
I said lots, I didn't say all, so what's the problem? I did say it depends on placements, as obviously one's character depends on their specific chart (as already mentioned in my previous post -_-).

I've had bad experiences, so I learnt from them, I'm just drawing conclusions from what the OP has told us. I think it's pretty clear he should back off. The girl seems to play games and seems confused, she's also taken according to him.
It's pretty much a no brainer.
If you think I'm being partial, what exactly IS the other side of the issue?

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Well, if according to your argument, we are more than our sun signs, and our sun signs alone don't account for everything, then, it does not make sense to state 'lots of scorpio/gemini/cancerians...etc" because you are basing this judgment on their sun signs, which again, according to you, don't account for everything. See the fallacy?

So yes, it would be certain aspects, and also, placements regarding venus/mars and moon that would allow for cheating and immoral behavior. I reminisce of Jodie Foster, a scorpio and the way she stood for Mel Gibson in spite of being a very unsavory character, according to some.

posted January 15, 2013 05:57 AM            

I don't see why you're getting somewhat defensive when essentially you and I are saying the same thing.

posted January 15, 2013 07:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Baizzatbari:
You see chocogold you cant win in an argument with a virgo (acc. to Linda Goodman). All I was saying was quoted was from Linda Goodman's Sun Signs in a passive manner not word by word. But on this page dedicated to Linda only a virgo can argue till hell freezes over without regard for the topic or Linda till hell freezes. Being a virgo I joined this forum only for my curiosity on Vulcan and its effect on Virgo because Linda has not detailed what effect it will have in any of her books nor has any other astrologer. But now I see the difference between my self before 2009 and now. I also used to be like this pecking like a woodpecker constantly on other people's emotions while they begged and cried for me to stop.

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HAHAHA, hence the old adage of not being able to see the forest for the trees.
It is a lovely thing to see a virgo, or any person for the matter, being able to take a critical look at their selves, and wanting to be a better person.
Cool.
This is the reason I think the op is not sufficient enough to make certain 'stereotypical judgments', because knowing the virgo energy myself, they can often either be blind or see things that are just not there.

posted January 15, 2013 12:51 PM            

My advice to you would be to back off from her. See if she comes back around - if not, there's your answer.

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posted January 15, 2013 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Baizzatbari:
You see chocogold you cant win in an argument with a virgo (acc. to Linda Goodman). All I was saying was quoted was from Linda Goodman's Sun Signs in a passive manner not word by word. But on this page dedicated to Linda only a virgo can argue till hell freezes over without regard for the topic or Linda till hell freezes. Being a virgo I joined this forum only for my curiosity on Vulcan and its effect on Virgo because Linda has not detailed what effect it will have in any of her books nor has any other astrologer. But now I see the difference between my self before 2009 and now. I also used to be like this pecking like a woodpecker constantly on other people's emotions while they begged and cried for me to stop. This due to affliction of rulership of Mercury on Virgo. I have posted a topic to discuss it but nobody wants to honour the late Linda Goodman's memory. They just want to argue to satisfy their ego. So I surrender HaplessChild please dont hurt me and have mercy on me and dont criticize me or argue with me. (But he will he will, he will!!!!!!!!)

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posted January 15, 2013 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by chocogold:
HAHAHA, hence the old adage of not being able to see the forest for the trees.
It is a lovely thing to see a virgo, or any person for the matter, being able to take a critical look at their selves, and wanting to be a better person.
Cool.
This is the reason I think the op is not sufficient enough to make certain 'stereotypical judgments', because knowing the virgo energy myself, they can often either be blind or see things that are just not there.

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I'm curious, what are your placements?

posted January 15, 2013 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by kennedy80:
Oh, and btw - ANYONE can cheat. I have never and would never. I do believe this to be a moral issue, of how one was raised. I have Gemini friends with both Venus & Mars in Gemini who have been loyal and faithful to their significant other. Just depends on the person and their ethical upbringing in my opinion.

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I think Venus conjunct Mars either makes someone a big nympho or really intensely loyal lol. It swings both ways!

posted January 15, 2013 03:17 PM            

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Originally posted by SDragon:
Can't it be both?

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posted January 16, 2013 07:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Baizzatbari:
See he did not stop. Touché

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I'm a chick sweetie. And I don't like it when someone makes certain claims when they have no ability to back it up. Especially when someone gets semi personal and gets alittle worked up when they clearly never even read my post properly.

posted January 16, 2013 08:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
I'm a chick sweetie. And I don't like it when someone makes certain claims when they have no ability to back it up. Especially when someone gets semi personal and gets alittle worked up when they clearly never even read my post properly.

Anyway, I'm not here to argue, but you really rubbed me the wrong way with your post.

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Chillax....
Besides, you have committed similar faults as baizz. Your post was not very clear either.
Interesting, you always claim that it is the 'other' who gets personal. But, it seems to me that you are the one who holds to being offended instead of letting things go, and you def. wear your heart on your sleeve. (Reminds me of watery sign folks and plutonic folks I know.)
You know, it is the internet, a public forum. There is no need to get so riled up. If anything, it may have been a big miscommunication among all of us.
Cheers.

posted January 17, 2013 11:32 AM            

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Originally posted by chocogold:
Chillax....
Besides, you have committed similar faults as baizz. Your post was not very clear either.
Interesting, you always claim that it is the 'other' who gets personal. But, it seems to me that you are the one who holds to being offended instead of letting things go, and you def. wear your heart on your sleeve. (Reminds me of watery sign folks and plutonic folks I know.)
You know, it is the internet, a public forum. There is no need to get so riled up. If anything, it may have been a big miscommunication among all of us.
Cheers.

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posted January 17, 2013 11:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Baizzatbari:
here's my chart acc. to planetary position charts in Linda Goodman's Relationship Signs
Sun-Virgo conjunct Mercury and Jupiter
Venus-Leo
Mars-Scorpio conjunct Pluto
Saturn-Aquarius
Uranus-Capricorn conjunct Neptune
Moon-Sagittarius
Ascendant-Sagittarius
In real life my character is based on fastidious Virgo. My emotions and my way of expression on Sagittarian truthfulness and
bluntness. My ability to reinvent and physique on a Scorpio. My delusions and erraticness based on surprising Capricornian capriciousness. You fill in the rest but never has one planet interfered with the working of another. The Sun's effect can never be diluted. It's the source of all life and is the second biggest after yet to be discovered Apollo in our solar system. So it is never small or tiny.
ELSE LINDA WOULD NOT HAVE BOTHERED TO WRITE A BOOK ON SUN SIGNS IGNORING THE REST PLANETS. What do you think? Btw what is a dominant? and are my venus and saturn afflicted? Any good books on astrology besides Linda Goodman's? or Richard Sterling's?

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posted January 17, 2013 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Baizzatbari:
here's my chart acc. to planetary position charts in Linda Goodman's Relationship Signs
Sun-Virgo conjunct Mercury and Jupiter
Venus-Leo
Mars-Scorpio conjunct Pluto
Saturn-Aquarius
Uranus-Capricorn conjunct Neptune
Moon-Sagittarius
Ascendant-Sagittarius
In real life my character is based on fastidious Virgo. My emotions and my way of expression on Sagittarian truthfulness and
bluntness. My ability to reinvent and physique on a Scorpio. My delusions and erraticness based on surprising Capricornian capriciousness. You fill in the rest but never has one planet interfered with the working of another. The Sun's effect can never be diluted. It's the source of all life and is the second biggest after yet to be discovered Apollo in our solar system. So it is never small or tiny.
ELSE LINDA WOULD NOT HAVE BOTHERED TO WRITE A BOOK ON SUN SIGNS IGNORING THE REST PLANETS. What do you think? Btw what is a dominant? and are my venus and saturn afflicted? Any good books on astrology besides Linda Goodman's? or Richard Sterling's?

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posted January 17, 2013 11:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
I actually meant you. You assumed certain things about me but when I asked you to elaborate you just meant silent. Anyway peace.

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It is fine. Besides, it is obvious that you are very sensitive to constructive criticism.
That is understandable.