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ManCee
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posted January 13, 2013 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ManCee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all.

I never paid attention to astrology until I came across this scorpio woman.
When we met she was always using half-truths and so on and I could clearly see what were her real intentions.
One day I decided to tell her that she shouldnt speak to me in half-sentences and I clearly explained her why and we had a big argument about that. She said some nasty things to me but I remained firm in my convictions and told her over and over again in a very calm mode with she shouldnt do that.

Since then she started to stare at me (this was the first time I came across the famous Scorpio stare) and things between us became very intense even when she just crossed somewhere.It's undescriptible! I never felt such a thing!

I dont know what happened but I started to care for her and offer her small gifts, flirt with her and tell her small jokes and I told her that I even liked her.I felt the need to be around her all the time.

When i realize that I was falling at her feet like a small bird I couldnt believe it! She has someone and I, after telling her that what was going on didnt made any sense to me and that I was very confused, decided to talk with her just when necessary, usually in front of common friends.

She became sad and now she totally ignores me. When we are together with friends she pretends I'm not there (she is very good at this) and when I tried to talk with her about this she said that its because stare at her! I have never stared at her, it was always her at me!

Now I know she stares at me discretly because a friend of mine told me and I sense her very sad. I have a feeling that its due to this situation.

I really dont know what to do and why she is playing this mindf* games on me, considering that she has someone. I would be glad if someone could give me any input on this and on what to do...

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hikoro
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posted January 13, 2013 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mmm.....
im not clear as to what is going on here....
you make it seem that she led you on, but...i dont see this.
also, the fact that you started being critical about her 'half-truths' since the beginning.....mmmm...that would annoy me.
i think that some things got lost in translation....
she was too aloof, not giving it all....and you wanted direct talk.
i dont know. the story is confusing.

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ManCee
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posted January 13, 2013 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ManCee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know. Its very confusing...
Should I go and try to have a direct talk with her? Would it solve anything?
Should I simply ignore her?

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hikoro
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posted January 13, 2013 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think you should pretend that nothing has happened and be happy.
quick advise: mirror her behavior and attitude toward you.
i think that you sending her gifts and doing all of those things and im assuming that she did not do the same for you was a mistake.
maybe you became too infatuated with her but she feels indifferent. maybe she likes you, but doesnt know how to go about things since she is with someone...or, if she is very unevolved, she liked having you following her like a puppy (it is an ego thing.)

so, be happy.

i hope i explained this well.

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Doux Rêve
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posted January 13, 2013 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ManCee, welcome!

Okay in my opinion, you should just let it go because 1)she's with someone and 2)she hasn't shown obvious signs of interest..or has she? Either way, I doubt she's going to leave her bf to be with you, let's get real.

So.. if I were you, I'd just move on.

Good luck!

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DrewMann
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posted January 13, 2013 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DrewMann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its obvious, she wants to mske love to you!!!

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 13, 2013 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ManCee,

She has a lack of character with the half truths. I personally cannot stand the staring, and I once had a Scorpio girlfriend which did exactly what you described. Unfortunately for Scorpios, my bite is even more painful than that silly stare, and I do the stare down even better thsn them. I dropped the old girlfriend like dirty laundry, and I suggest you do the same. I like Virgos. I'm a Capricorn.

Best of luck.

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Randall
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posted January 13, 2013 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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Haplesschild*
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posted January 13, 2013 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She's with someone so don't go there.
Get a Taurus woman, they're less work, don't bs and are more trustworthy. =)

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Baizzatbari
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posted January 14, 2013 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Baizzatbari     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Earlier around before 2009 Virgo Man and Scorpio Woman were mates for life like Antony-Cleopatra, Jason Statham-Kelly Brook, etc. But a Virgo usually took so long to propose marriage (which is the usual intention of a Virgo male) that Scorpio woman which mates for life usually broke up or died.
Now REFER TO MY THREAD ON VULCAN AND ITS EFFECT ON VIRGO Virgo's passion and intensity are breaking loose and the intensity of feelings which a Virgo felt earlier for Scorpio women has become apparent. Now being a Virgo male I intend to marry as soon as I complete Grad School. Earlier I planned to be a bachelor all my life. So you can see the difference. For more info and discussion please redirect your friends to the thread VIRGO AND ITS EFFECT ON VULCAN NOW APPARENT. P.s. Go for it because Scorpio is currently the best match but Taurus will be the best when Apollo is discovered. I am trying for a Cancer girl because my situation is most suitable for her.

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hikoro
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posted January 14, 2013 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
scorpio the best match for virgo.. hahaha....
im a scorpio and i dont approve this message.

i think that it is more than sun signs in order to find a suitable partner. some virgos and scorpios get along, others dont...it is very relative.

honestly, im still confused by the story. imo, im only getting one side of the issue, and ive seen the same behavior displayed by other people, non-scorpio and scorpio alike....so, who knows....


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ManCee
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posted January 14, 2013 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ManCee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She really makes my heart pump fast.
I would say we are a good match if we could overcome the communication problem we are having or if I could get an insight of what she is feeling/thinking...

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hikoro
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posted January 14, 2013 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ManCee:
She really makes my heart pump fast.
I would say we are a good match if we could overcome the communication problem we are having or if I could get an insight of what she is feeling/thinking...

she can make your heart pump fast all you want...but, are you sure you are not just projecting?
im not trying to criticize you but...i guess im trying to be more objective instead of cherry-picking.

for example had this situation been gender-inversed, imo, more likely than not, more people would see him (remember, gender-inversed) as not being into you, virgo female...
but, here, she being a scorpio...the stereotype of mind-game playing is the first thing thing that pops out in people's minds...and she is the one "at fault"

thus far, in your op, you were the one who was always initiating things, confronting her...giving her gifts.

i dont see anything concrete that shows she has initiated anything. she is not even talking to you, it seems.
i dont know of other scorps, but, scorps can be true chasers when they want someone...


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ManCee
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posted January 14, 2013 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ManCee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, this was a very good reply.

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hikoro
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posted January 14, 2013 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ManCee:
Thanks, this was a very good reply.

and by the way, with any female that is already with someone else. dont go there, i recommend.
find yourself someone who is available.
go where you are loved.

im a scorp, by the way.

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posted January 14, 2013 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you're missing one point in your post that could help with the overall mess. You mentioned that you could read her intentions. That usually means a good link with your intuition.

Then all this mind games started playing and what does your intuition say now? If you can't think straight or can't even contact your intuition, something is wrong.

Because of the fact that you confronted her on her half meanings, she thinks she's found someone she can play power games with to get the emotional rush she seems to thrive on. Also, the fact that she's with someone, walk away and don't play her games.

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Baizzatbari
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posted January 14, 2013 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Baizzatbari     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The positives of a relationship with scorpio woman for a virgo man are-
Loyalty till death, mutual passion, similar interests because both represent masculine energy(which Virgo subdues to do something practical and Scorpio shows to get emotional satisfaction), a happy marriage as both are family oriented, excitement, similar sense of humour (this is my personal experience with scorpio male and female friends), complementary attributes such as virgo's practical ambition with scorpio's resourcefulness, scorpio's need for luxuries and virgo's sound financial ability, virgo's need for privacy and scorpio's ability to hide everything
On the negative side
Some scorpio's particularly the scorpion type are selfish, filthy, foul mouthed, addicts, mean, hurtful and vengeful. These type are more common.
Advice- Either go full speed ahead or break it and run away.
The intensity of a virgo's feelings for particularly some attractive libran and scorpion women is much higher than the temp of a forge.
This relationship will either reward you immensely or leave you exhausted and in a wretched state.
IT DEPENDS on which type of female you are dealing with. This is nuclear power dont toy with it because Vulcan's destructive effects are not known to me yet. So how will you counter Scorpio's effect is up to you.
But dont mess with her. P.s. I am a virgo male and I have never commited to a relationship mainly because I dont want a Scorpio female. Otherwise occurrence of Scorpio women in my life as potential partners has been FAR more than any other female.
Even Charlie Sheen (virgo male) has had far more relationships on screen with female Scorpios than any other type. Just saying as an example. But I have not met a Scorpio woman since 2009 so I dont know the effects of Vulcan on Virgo's relationships.

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posted January 14, 2013 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Baizzatbari
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posted January 15, 2013 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Baizzatbari     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From rereading your description and from a non astrological viewpoint, you should first confirm that she has a boyfriend FOR SURE.
In case she has then you should leave her as per decency. If she does not then you need to apply astrology.
Now from a purely astrological viewpoint a scorpio woman is described as never wishy-washy or emotionally or morally weak.
But according to Richard Sterling's book on astrology a scorpio woman sometimes has no qualms of having a little secret affair. It is against this that you need to guard yourself. Scorpio women are not characterless they just have an overcharged libido if they are not spiritually evolved. You just need to apply Vulcan's understanding to smoothen the situation. She wont become hopeless and pathetic over a trifle matter. But you could lose a stellar life partner if she doesnt have a boyfriend.

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posted January 15, 2013 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Baizzatbari:
The positives of a relationship with scorpio woman for a virgo man are-
Loyalty till death, mutual passion, similar interests because both represent masculine energy(which Virgo subdues to do something practical and Scorpio shows to get emotional satisfaction), a happy marriage as both are family oriented, excitement, similar sense of humour (this is my personal experience with scorpio male and female friends), complementary attributes such as virgo's practical ambition with scorpio's resourcefulness, scorpio's need for luxuries and virgo's sound financial ability, virgo's need for privacy and scorpio's ability to hide everything
On the negative side
Some scorpio's particularly the scorpion type are selfish, filthy, foul mouthed, addicts, mean, hurtful and vengeful. These type are more common.
Advice- Either go full speed ahead or break it and run away.
The intensity of a virgo's feelings for particularly some attractive libran and scorpion women is much higher than the temp of a forge.
This relationship will either reward you immensely or leave you exhausted and in a wretched state.
IT DEPENDS on which type of female you are dealing with. This is nuclear power dont toy with it because Vulcan's destructive effects are not known to me yet. So how will you counter Scorpio's effect is up to you.
But dont mess with her. P.s. I am a virgo male and I have never commited to a relationship mainly because I dont want a Scorpio female. Otherwise occurrence of Scorpio women in my life as potential partners has been FAR more than any other female.
Even Charlie Sheen (virgo male) has had far more relationships on screen with female Scorpios than any other type. Just saying as an example. But I have not met a Scorpio woman since 2009 so I dont know the effects of Vulcan on Virgo's relationships.

The loyalty thing is based on Mars and Venus signs and whether they have afflictions to personal planets. Lots of Scorpio people cheat so no, 'loyalty until death' isn't really likely.

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Baizzatbari
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posted January 15, 2013 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Baizzatbari     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Sun rules 85% of our traits. It is basically our character. Venus and Mars rule how we express our emotional and physical love respectively and specifically. No affliction or planet not even apollo which is believed to be larger than the Sun by astronomers can ever dilute the 85% influence of the Sun.
Any human being can cheat and Scorpios who are dissatisfied with their love might cheat. But no scorpio will ever take matters of life and death as a joke ever. Also my emphasis was on Virgo-Scorpio relationship not any other relationship. Being a Virgo and meeting a lot of Scorpios ManCee I have first hand experience and I am not joking. But if you want you can consult a qualified professional astrologer about your synastry with this particular Scorpion.

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posted January 15, 2013 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Baizzatbari:
The Sun rules 85% of our traits. It is basically our character.

Not really, all planets are important equally.
Most people act like a combination of there sun/moon/asc unless there all in the same sign. I never met anyone who acts exactly like there sun sign. Except Gemini's because there behavior is easy to detect

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Baizzatbari
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posted January 15, 2013 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Baizzatbari     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not talking about behaviour only about our character and only 85% of it. Please read carefully before responding. I am not trying to put forward a point here only trying to help this guy so he doesnt ruin his life. Peace bro.

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posted January 15, 2013 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Baizzatbari:
The Sun rules 85% of our traits. It is basically our character. Venus and Mars rule how we express our emotional and physical love respectively and specifically. No affliction or planet not even apollo which is believed to be larger than the Sun by astronomers can ever dilute the 85% influence of the Sun.
Any human being can cheat and Scorpios who are dissatisfied with their love might cheat. But no scorpio will ever take matters of life and death as a joke ever. Also my emphasis was on Virgo-Scorpio relationship not any other relationship. Being a Virgo and meeting a lot of Scorpios ManCee I have first hand experience and I am not joking. But if you want you can consult a qualified professional astrologer about your synastry with this particular Scorpion.

I don't actually agree with this. I'm act more Libra like than Virgo even though I have a sun in Virgo. Lots of Scorpios are deceitful and lack morals, so you shouldn't generalise because it really depends on an individual's chart.

Sun counts for at most 25-30% of our personality, the moon is just as important if not more so.

And he won't ruin his life, the woman appears confused and plays games. Doesn't seem like a catch to me.

And Charlie Sheen has had relationships with Scorpios because his Mars is in Scorpio...With a Venus in Libra, so I expect the Scorpio women often have Libra and Sag placements which would therefore work well with his placements. It's not essentially because he's a Virgo.

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posted January 15, 2013 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Baizzatbari     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes you are absolutely correct. Can't argue with an expert.

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