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RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4917 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011	posted January 15, 2013 07:53 PM It's simple. Don't argue which one you believe is correct. Just say which one you feel better represents you, and you can say why, but no debating. Hell! You can even give reasons why different placements in each suit you, if you want, but I'd like to keep it short. Any ways!! I'm entirely mixed! I can relate to both my western and my vedic charts. My answer is! I can't pick one over the other if I had to, though I may go with western since it's what I've always used. I'd like to note that my choice of careers would probably not last me very long into my life - live fast, die young...Aries vedic MC? And you???? Do you relate to your Vedic chart? IP: Logged
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4141 From: Registered: Jul 2011	posted January 15, 2013 07:55 PM Western: Scorpio/Pisces/Pisces Vedic: Libra/Aqua/Aqua I like Western IP: Logged
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011	posted January 15, 2013 07:56 PM I'm sure Vedic would say the same or similar.. It's just that I'm not that knowledgeable at it. The stuff online seem to be the cookie cutter stuff but until I get an actual Vedic reading from a real Vedic astrologer I can't give an answer. IP: Logged
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 3816 From: Registered: Nov 2011	posted January 15, 2013 08:13 PM I agree with my Vedic signs better. They just make more sense to me and fit me better than my Western ones. Western: Gemini ASC - Aries Sun - Taurus Moon Vedic: Taurus ASC - Pisces Sun - Aries Moon IP: Logged
ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2867 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012	posted January 15, 2013 08:21 PM I identify with both but I wouldn't use the the vedic description of my western signs or vice versa. I think the primary problem for people is when they look at their placements from their vedic chart they keep thinking of the western descriptions of those signs not the vedic interpretations. Vedic: Cancer Sun, Taurus Moon/Asc, Gemini Venus and Aries Mars Western: Cancer Sun, Taurus Mars/Asc, Gemini Venus/Moon IP: Logged
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 5619 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012	posted January 15, 2013 08:23 PM western all the way.. according to vedic astrology i am a double capricorn with an aries moon, that isnt me at all. IP: Logged
Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 2076 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012	posted January 15, 2013 08:33 PM Well no I don't believe in Astrology at all anymore. More of life and perspectives which alter viewpoints and realities. If you're conciously aware, then you're a step ahead of the game , and thats sort of the scorpionic motto. My moon sign is vedic. I was shy but I found the reason for it, and unless vedic astrology says something about a virgo being a certain way for a personal defect, its not really going to alter much of reality. If anything I'd say Vedic. Mostly because the reason I stopped being the way I originally was is because the guy I loved and lost lacked something because I gained the personal defect. And once I was aware, I was able to demolish and soon the truth will catch up with time. Hopefully I'm not screwd. Like you don't even understand, I tried really hard to convince my family that I'm a certain way and because he was the same for being different, it isnt the same now. So Ive been getting sh*t for it all day, and it just really sucks. I feel like crap. But before it was like 1000x times better. Because of this change in conciousness, I was able to alter everyone at both schools I went to. So thats pretty cool. IP: Logged
Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 2076 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012	posted January 15, 2013 08:42 PM Even telling this itself is stupid, but who cares right. I think you're pretty libra. I like the idea of me being Scorpio and him Aquarius, this guy whose gonna change my life. That actually makes sense if he is because its both like fixed. Teheh xD P.s. my charts this Sidereal-Virgo stellium, scorpio moon, taurus ascendant, mars libra Tropical-Libra stellium, sagittarius moon, gemini ascendant, mars scorpio I think if anything go with the facts but even still who knows the truth.. o.O IP: Logged
SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 1762 From: The Land of Oz Registered: Aug 2012	posted January 15, 2013 09:09 PM Vedic Sag - (29� - barely) Tau - (0� -barely) Leo - 13� Rising ---- Sag Merc, Scorp Ven, Lib Mars, NN Tau 21� vs Western Cap (23�) Tau (23�) - Virgo (7�) Rising ---- Cap Merc, Sag Ven, Scorp Mars, NN Gem 15� ---- I'd love that Leo Ascendant, sure~ but don't have much of any opinion on which fits me better... I just like using Western better, since I've used it more often, and the information that is available seem to fit correctly enough~ =x I'd only switch if I could use my Progressed chart! XD (Aqua Sun, Gem Moon, Libra Rising!) IP: Logged
hodad Knowflake Posts: 100 From: tiburon ca usa Registered: May 2009	posted January 15, 2013 09:31 PM I don't see how you can reconcile the two.In the Western system I am a Cancer,in Vedic I am a Gemini.In the Western chart I have Virgo rising,with Mars in Taurus in the 8th.In the Vedic chart I have Leo rising with Mars in Aries in the 9th.The placements just seem like polar opposites.It's like two entirely different people. How do you reconcile Vedic and Western when they are so different from each other? IP: Logged
StacyLewis Knowflake Posts: 471 From: Registered: Oct 2012	posted January 15, 2013 09:41 PM quote: Originally posted by hodad: I don't see how you can reconcile the two.In the Western system I am a Cancer,in Vedic I am a Gemini.In the Western chart I have Virgo rising,with Mars in Taurus in the 8th.In the Vedic chart I have Leo rising with Mars in Aries in the 9th.The placements just seem like polar opposites.It's like two entirely different people. How do you reconcile Vedic and Western when they are so different from each other? This is one of the reasons why I don't take Vedic seriously, and stick to Western. It gives you such a different chart, and my Vedic doesn't fit me at all. IP: Logged
Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 117 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012	posted January 15, 2013 10:08 PM quote: Originally posted by ail221: I identify with both but I wouldn't use the the vedic description of my western signs or vice versa. I think the primary problem for people is when they look at their placements from their vedic chart they keep thinking of the western descriptions of those signs not the vedic interpretations. Vedic: Cancer Sun, Taurus Moon/Asc, Gemini Venus and Aries Mars Western: Cancer Sun, Taurus Mars/Asc, Gemini Venus/Moon I made a thread on Vedic Astrology a while back. It should explain a bit why your placements are different. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56278 IP: Logged
ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2867 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012	posted January 15, 2013 10:18 PM I know why my placements are different. I'll pass on that link. IP: Logged
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 383 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012	posted January 16, 2013 04:37 AM Western Capricorn ASC, Moon - Cancer, Sun - Leo Vedic - ASC Capricorn, Moon -Gemini, Sun Cancer I don't relate to Geminis at ALL. I'm very much a Leo and I relate to my cancer moon. IP: Logged
Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 117 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012	posted January 16, 2013 06:50 AM quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: Western Capricorn ASC, Moon - Cancer, Sun - Leo Vedic - ASC Capricorn, Moon -Gemini, Sun Cancer I don't relate to Geminis at ALL. I'm very much a Leo and I relate to my cancer moon. Bear in mind the traits for signs in Vedic Astrology differ from Tropical Astrology. See my link I posted above yesterday. IP: Logged
Lotis White Knowflake Posts: 919 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010	posted January 16, 2013 06:56 AM I've studied both and use both. Western is my primary focus, but Vedic is useful as well. Each has something to contribute. Yes to both. IP: Logged
Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 117 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012	posted February 02, 2013 09:36 AM I intended to post this but I haven't had time so I'll do it now. When I calulated my Chart, I got Libra Rising which shocked me.Scorpio Rising is my Ascendant in Tropical Astrology.So I was like "Wait Libra Rising Doesn't match me!Scorpio Rising fits me more! However I read more and more on Vedic Astrology and it seem very much that the previous signs may contain the traits of your current Rising Sign.I'm no expert so there may be errors but I'll use my own chart. In Western Astrology I'm a Scorpio Rising and Scorpio Rising are infamous for their stubborn personalities and sexual magnetism and lust. So when I first found out I'm a Thula (Libra) Ascendant in Vedic Astrology, I was like WTF "That doesn't fit me!". However the more I read about the Ascendant in Vedic Astrology, the more I felt it matches me. In Vedic Astrology, Thula Risers are known to be magnetic and quite stubborn. Also they are often attractive people with Sexual Charisma.All these traits that are part of Scorpio Rising in Western Astrology but sort of missing in Vedic Astrology.Also to add in Vedic Astrology, Thula Rising are known to have strong willpower as opposed to the Libra Risers in the Tropical system. VRISHCHAK (Scorpio) Ascendant in Vedic Astrology are generally not associated with the magnetism and vengeful natures of their Tropical Counterpart. However they have the legendary perseverance and willpower of the Tropical Versions as well as the Secretive, traits in Tropic Scorpio Risers. And as opposed to Scorpio Risers, Vrishcak Risers are known to be good debators and orators, something Libra Rising is known to have in the Tropical Astrology. So I think Vedic Astrology Signs may have different traits from heir Tropical Counterpart . If you're say about 26� Libra Rising in Tropical Astrology, you'd for example take a strong interest in the occult, as you'd be on the very low degrees of Libra Rising in Vedic Astrology. Even if you're Scorpio Rising in Vedic Astrology, you'd still match the description as Thula Rising because Libra has so much of Scorpio's traits in Vedic Astrology. Am I correct with this interpretation?Note I'm a Noob to the Vedic System and I only researched the Ascendants seeing that I was Thula Rising in Vedic and Scorpio Rising in Tropical. So in the end after reading the Description of Libra Rising in Vedic Astrology Sites, I thought it match me near-spot on minus the sexy charisma and attractiveness (though I'll have both within 6 months) and felt I didn't match the Scorpio Rising in Vedic Astrology (though I match its description spot on in Tropical Astrology). Please not I am new to Vedic but so far thats what I observed about Vedic Astrology and some of the differences. IP: Logged
starfairy Knowflake Posts: 180 From: los angeles, california, USA Registered: Jul 2010	posted February 02, 2013 09:49 AM Definitely western. I don't relate to my Vedic at all. IP: Logged
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 4696 From: Registered: Oct 2011	posted February 02, 2013 11:33 AM If I were to believe, Vedic by far. Vedic: Capricorn Sun / Taurus Moon / Aries ASC Western: Capricorn Sun / Gemini Moon / Pisces ASC. I have none of that Gemini or Pisces thing in me. On the other hand, there is a lot of Taurus and Aries in me, and that combo with Capricorn reflects me better. But I remain skeptical of both. IP: Logged
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 518 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012	posted February 02, 2013 02:04 PM If you're comparing the signs then thats just a waste of time. If you truly want to under Vedic system try and actually learn it lol.. I do my Vedic birth chart because of its many complexities, and sub charts. IP: Logged
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 518 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012	posted February 02, 2013 02:13 PM quote: Originally posted by Pisces Adonis: I intended to post this but I haven't had time so I'll do it now. When I calulated my Chart, I got Libra Rising which shocked me.Scorpio Rising is my Ascendant in Tropical Astrology.So I was like "Wait Libra Rising Doesn't match me!Scorpio Rising fits me more! However I read more and more on Vedic Astrology and it seem very much that the previous signs may contain the traits of your current Rising Sign.I'm no expert so there may be errors but I'll use my own chart. In Western Astrology I'm a Scorpio Rising and Scorpio Rising are infamous for their stubborn personalities and sexual magnetism and lust. So when I first found out I'm a Thula (Libra) Ascendant in Vedic Astrology, I was like WTF "That doesn't fit me!". However the more I read about the Ascendant in Vedic Astrology, the more I felt it matches me. In Vedic Astrology, Thula Risers are known to be magnetic and quite stubborn. Also they are often attractive people with Sexual Charisma.All these traits that are part of Scorpio Rising in Western Astrology but sort of missing in Vedic Astrology.Also to add in Vedic Astrology, Thula Rising are known to have strong willpower as opposed to the Libra Risers in the Tropical system. VRISHCHAK (Scorpio) Ascendant in Vedic Astrology are generally not associated with the magnetism and vengeful natures of their Tropical Counterpart. However they have the legendary perseverance and willpower of the Tropical Versions as well as the Secretive, traits in Tropic Scorpio Risers. And as opposed to Scorpio Risers, Vrishcak Risers are known to be good debators and orators, something Libra Rising is known to have in the Tropical Astrology. So I think Vedic Astrology Signs may have different traits from heir Tropical Counterpart . If you're say about 26� Libra Rising in Tropical Astrology, you'd for example take a strong interest in the occult, as you'd be on the very low degrees of Libra Rising in Vedic Astrology. Even if you're Scorpio Rising in Vedic Astrology, you'd still match the description as Thula Rising because Libra has so much of Scorpio's traits in Vedic Astrology. Am I correct with this interpretation?Note I'm a Noob to the Vedic System and I only researched the Ascendants seeing that I was Thula Rising in Vedic and Scorpio Rising in Tropical. So in the end after reading the Description of Libra Rising in Vedic Astrology Sites, I thought it match me near-spot on minus the sexy charisma and attractiveness (though I'll have both within 6 months) and felt I didn't match the Scorpio Rising in Vedic Astrology (though I match its description spot on in Tropical Astrology). Please not I am new to Vedic but so far thats what I observed about Vedic Astrology and some of the differences. Ahhh yes nakshatras are very cool, I think I relate more to my nakshatras then my western sign. It really transform astrology and prove to skeptics that yes, you maybe be a leo but not all leo's are known by its stereotype and why you don't relate to its typical characteristics IP: Logged
Got Gemini?? Knowflake Posts: 613 From: The Planet Mercury Registered: Oct 2010	posted February 02, 2013 03:02 PM Western. ------------------ Gemini Sun Libra Moon Gemini Mercury Cancer Venus Virgo Mars Virgo Asc And yes, I'm a guy! IP: Logged
Maelstrom Knowflake Posts: 182 From: Here, There, Everywhere Registered: Oct 2012	posted February 02, 2013 04:26 PM Western: Pisces Sun, Taurus Moon, Leo Rising Vedic: Aquarius Sun, Aries Moon, Leo Rising Hard to say because I identify with the Aries moon but I am more Pisces than Aquarius at heart. Either way I keep my lion heheh! IP: Logged
Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 117 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012	posted February 02, 2013 08:16 PM quote: Originally posted by Maelstrom: Western: Pisces Sun, Taurus Moon, Leo Rising Vedic: Aquarius Sun, Aries Moon, Leo Rising Hard to say because I identify with the Aries moon but I am more Pisces than Aquarius at heart. Either way I keep my lion heheh! XDD I also keep my Lion!!!! Lunar Leo either waaaay though the Vedic puts me in the Magha Nakashtra making it even more epic as I read something about Leos in that Nakashtra becoming very successful and being related (one thing I read reincarnation) of Hindu Royalty!!!!! Western Astrology already states Leo Moon makes me the reincarnation of a King or Dictator or some other Regal Figure, but Vedic Astrology adds a religious element in addition!!! Also a Fish Sun in either systems. IP: Logged
vickymadness Knowflake Posts: 1050 From: Minnesota Registered: Jan 2012	posted February 02, 2013 08:24 PM Western IP: Logged

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