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KarkaQueen
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posted January 18, 2013 12:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heroin, cocaine, meth, ect

Pretty sure its Neptune aspect to the major parts (oppositions, squares, and conjuncts, esp) to Moon DSC ASC and Sun??


What is it in your personal experience thank you

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posted January 18, 2013 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conj Neptune is the classic one, I think

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posted January 18, 2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pretty much Neptune in hard aspects.

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KarkaQueen
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posted January 18, 2013 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Sun conj Neptune is the classic one, I think


My mom has that in Scorpio and she did drugs for a while because of her highly stressful job but only a period of a few months. I have Sun opposite Neptune and I have those urges too!

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posted January 18, 2013 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom has sun conjunct Neptune in libra..

She always smoked weed, but got into hard core drugs when she turned 40..
She hit rock bottom hard and fast...

After a few years she quit cold turkey.. She moved on and away from her life...

She is clean now...

I have an aunt.. She is a life time addiction...
I don't know her birth day....
I don't think she does hard core drugs..
She is addicted to drinking, smoking, gambling..

She is really really bad...

She was in the hospital and of course no drinking during that time.. Her body went into shock and she went into a comma from the withdrawals of not drinking....
I think that was after 1 or 2 days of being in thé
hospital.

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posted January 18, 2013 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen it happen with

Neptune-Mars
Sun in the 12th
Jupiter in the 12th
Mercury-Neptune

and a few others. MOST of these were stressfully aspected. I.e., the 12H Sun had many stress aspects to it. Neptunian and Piscean themes are often centered around drug addiction. I also find that if Uranus is touching a difficulty aspected config, like a 12H Sun opposite Neptune and also semi-square or square Uranus, the odds of drug addiction and off behaviors go up further.

Many of my family members who struggled with substance abuse had very harshly aspected charts...a lot of Mars-Neptune, exact square in one case, and some planets in Aquarius seem to be prevalent. Also, a random Aquarius Sun I knew was a major cocaine addict. He had Mars-Saturn and Sun quincunx Pluto.

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posted January 18, 2013 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MillyX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hard aspects to Neptune is def. guilty for it. I am currently having hard transits of Neptune to my personal planets & I'm not gonna lie, this past year until now, my escapists tendencies are strong & coming to the surface. It's like I'm getting so sensitive, I can't handle the hurt & I have a hard time coping with real life, i just want to retreat in a better world.

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posted January 19, 2013 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My nippy tunes only has trines and sextuplets save an inconjunct to Leo moon. I can quit anything cold turkey.

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posted January 19, 2013 02:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have neptune square mars I've dabbled in SOME of that... stuff...
I wouldn't recommend it!

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posted January 19, 2013 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune sq Mars and Ascendant
semi-sq Venus
Inconj Sun

I have dabbled. A lot. And I dabble until I hit rock bottom and then I stop like it never happened.

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posted January 19, 2013 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conjunct Neptune 12th house - yes

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posted January 20, 2013 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a tight, tight Saturn/Neptune/Sun (in Pisces of all things) t-square and was one told by a former member here to never, ever dabble in drugs (or anything with the potential to be addictive), and I believe him.

I have an extremely addictive personality, but it's something I've been cognizant and wary of (as there are addicts of all stripes in my family) so I haven't (knock on wood) yet fallen prey.

I treat myself like a member of AA, though (always an addict, even if I'm not on anything).

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posted January 20, 2013 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's someone I know with Neptune conj Moon / opp His Sun/Jupiter conj and with Saturn in trine or Sextile most things in his chart, and he had major drug abuse issues (painkillers, mostly, though be *took* almost everything else under the sun at some point or another, has tripped [acid, not something warm and fuzzy like shrooms] "over 100" times, and had a major pot [of the wake and bake variety] habit).

One day, he just decided to stop, and he did (almost cold turkey, with a lapse or two at paries before he gave up on trying to remain with that group of friends) with no professional intervention. He won't even have more than a beer or two at a time now.
Perhaps all of the pretty Saturn aspects helped.

To this day, though, if he goes to the doctor for a pain-related issue, he discloses his past and insists upon synthetic (if any) painkillers.

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posted January 20, 2013 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune square Moon and Neptune conjunct Mercury & Uranus.
My Neptune is in Capricorn, 7th house.

I really like drinking, I drink every day. I'm not so addicted to smoking. About drugs, weed is the only thing I do, but I'm pretty sure I'll try other stuff soon.

Here are some aspects from people I know:

My ex who does weed daily:
Neptune sextile Sun
Neptune sextile Venus
Neptune quincunx Jupiter
Neptune quincunx Mars
Neptune conjunct Uranus
(Neptune in Capricorn,1st house)


A friends who has tried anything, from weed to heroin, and is a frequent cocaine user:
Neptune sextile Moon
Neptune sextile Mars
Neptune sextile Pluto
(Neptune in Capricorn, 5th house)

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posted January 21, 2013 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fallenangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by its_aqua:
I have [b] Neptune square Moon and Neptune conjunct Mercury & Uranus.
My Neptune is in Capricorn, 7th house.

I really like drinking, I drink every day. I'm not so addicted to smoking. About drugs, weed is the only thing I do, but I'm pretty sure I'll try other stuff soon.

Here are some aspects from people I know:

My ex who does weed daily:
Neptune sextile Sun
Neptune sextile Venus
Neptune quincunx Jupiter
Neptune quincunx Mars
Neptune conjunct Uranus
(Neptune in Capricorn,1st house)


A friends who has tried anything, from weed to heroin, and is a frequent cocaine user:
Neptune sextile Moon
Neptune sextile Mars
Neptune sextile Pluto
(Neptune in Capricorn, 5th house)[/B]


I also have neptune sextile moon, and neptune sextile pluto. I've also tried a bit of everything. I'm clean now but i've done it for 10 years on and off again.

Also have a scorpio moon, which is known to make a person very sensitive to excesses of all kinds: food, drinking, drugs,...

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I was on and off with drug use, and finally quit and I've been sober from everything (except alcohol) for 5-6 yrs now.

I have Mercury conjunct Neptune, Neptune conjunct Uranus all in the 1H

That's interesting about Neptune/Mars
I do have Neptune sesquiquadrate Mars, and it's a 1 degree orb.

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posted May 15, 2016 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marandana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in pisces or a heavy 12th house is common in the charts of drug addicts. (I'm not saying all mars in pisces but it is a common aspect, tho)

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posted May 15, 2016 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My father is 50 and still smokes weed on the regular. Drinks not as often. When he was younger he did some hardcore drugs.

He has:
Sun and Mercury in the 12th
Mercury conj Neptune
Neptune conj ASC in Scorpio

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posted May 16, 2016 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in a water sign can show a taste for alcohol, drugs, etc.
if Neptune is involved even more so.

A water sign Mars can also be an indicator.

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posted May 16, 2016 04:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ime,
Leo afflcitions esp to Saturn, Neptune and Pluto

It is the most selfish sign after all...


Cap afflictions too

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posted May 16, 2016 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by deepseablues:
Ime,
Leo afflcitions esp to Saturn, Neptune and Pluto

It is the most selfish sign after all...


Cap afflictions too


what about soft aspects? do those depend on house placements?

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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:
what about soft aspects? do those depend on house placements?


Hm, I'm not an expert, though of the two Leo's that I know very personally with heroin addictions, both have multiple personal planet placements in Leo, one of them the Leo planets are afflicted to Saturn, the other to Pluto, both have fairly afflicted Moon/Venus/Mars, as well as highly aspected afflicted ASC's, as well as Chiron, as well as both have 8th House placements.

The Cap who is an alcoholic crack/cocaine user also has an afflicted Leo planet as well as afflicted Mars/Moon, though TOB not known so I dunno ASC or House placements.

Leo/Jupiter are also about overdoing/overxpansion/overly generous so that ties in with addiction, not to mention Leo rules the Heart, many people with Hard addictions suffer from painful childhoods rife with abuse and therefore suffer from self esteem/love issues in adulthood that they seek escape from through substance. The correlations are endless and eye opening imo, I love astrology for the endless correlations, I just thought of how its kinda funny cause Leo rules the Heart, and its opposite sign Aquarius rules the circulatory system, and the opposite signs are tied together, and intravenous drugs are shot through the veins directly to the heart.. its almost comical..

I would say with soft aspects House placements would definitely play an important factor, as well as would help in overcoming the issue, also possibly look to House Rulers/afflictions to as well as asteroids for other mitigating factors

Also I don't know if this is important but all of them have lots of quincunxes, quintiles/biquintiles, sesquiquadrates.

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posted May 17, 2016 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by deepseablues:
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thank you very much for your reply, very helpful for me.

i'm struggling everyday and all i want is find some kind of guidence/answers then break it somehow and move forward because right now i'm either stagnating or spiral out of control suddenly on other days, both states are mortifying and i'm desperate to move on. i will look more into my chart.


edit: my chart is neptune and chiron ridden. i know what i should do but still i can not do it, that's what i'm struggling with more and trying every day.

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posted May 17, 2016 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What sweet-scorpion and Lalalinda are correct with people I've known.

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posted May 17, 2016 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces moon square Neptune and Mars, t-square

If marijuana were sold at the corner store, I could see myself developing a habit. But I'm too lazy to try and obtain some illegally. I really don't care enough about it.

And honestly why would I need drugs?

I'm already weird enough....

I guess it's just that the few times I smoked alone, The Universe started revealing its secrets to me and that was very fun. But I'm not sure if that would happen again.

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