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charlie
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posted January 20, 2013 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
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You know what I never understood is how any astrologer calls Cancer a homebody. Every Cancer SUN I've ever encountered was a big partier, big personality, into casual sex, very fiery. I'm an Aries and I seem more like a textbook "Cancer" compared to them.

Yep! I think what people get wrong is the "homebody" notion. They take it too literal! For me "home" is driving my beloved truck around while listening to music...OR sitting in my favorite bar talking to strangers....OR airports when I travel. I LOVE LOVE LOVE traveling!!

Home can be anything where we feel safe.
Most Cancer's I've known and know, incl myself, are and have been promiscuous.

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hannaramaa
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posted January 20, 2013 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
Yep! I think what people get wrong is the "homebody" notion. They take it too literal! For me "home" is driving my beloved truck around while listening to music...OR sitting in my favorite bar talking to strangers....OR airports when I travel. I LOVE LOVE LOVE traveling!!

Home can be anything where we feel safe.
Most Cancer's I've known and know, incl myself, are and have been promiscuous.


I don't know how you can talk to strangers. I just don't...CARE. LOL. I can't muster up the willingness to find them interesting in any way whatsoever.

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Kerosene
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posted January 20, 2013 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Actually, I'd have to agree with Haplesschild.

Actually, I'd have to agree with Stacylewis

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charlie
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posted January 20, 2013 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I don't know how you can talk to strangers. I just don't...CARE. LOL. I can't muster up the willingness to find them interesting in any way whatsoever.

I feel at home among strangers and VERY claustrophobic among friends and family.

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted January 20, 2013 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
you have certainly gotten cranky with me lol

um, its all love aquaguy

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hannaramaa
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posted January 20, 2013 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
I feel at home among strangers and VERY claustrophobic among friends and family.


WELL. I envy that lol.

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StacyLewis
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posted January 20, 2013 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Actually, I'd have to agree with Stacylewis

Ikr? Lmao, like...let's be totally real, here. In order to be the grudgeful type, you have to be someone that easily gets emotional about things...and that's a water sign trait. Some fire signs too, although I don't agree at all that Leos are that way - I'm a Leo, and if someone does something minor, I get mad sure, but I actually get over it incredibly fast - unless what you did was a huge infraction, and then I cut you out of my life.

I don't consider that a grudge though, because anyone with sense will cut you out of their life if you do something that bad to them...if they have any sense and self-respect. It has nothing to do with wounded pride and everything to do with self-preservation.

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posted January 20, 2013 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Actually, I'd have to agree with Stacylewis

Not a problem. I have Sun,Moon, Mercury, and Pluto in air signs. Not to make it a contest of placements, but that's what makes me agree with Haplesschild and not with StacyLewis.

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posted January 20, 2013 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StacyLewis:
In order to be the grudgeful type, you have to be someone that easily gets emotional about things...and that's a water sign trait

Grudges aren't limited to emotions.

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Kerosene
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posted January 20, 2013 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Not a problem. I have Sun,Moon, Mercury, and Pluto in air signs. Not to make it a contest of placements, but that's what makes me agree with Haplesschild and not with StacyLewis.

Is pluto in conjunction with those placements lol?
I feel the key word in this is pluto.
Stacy lewis is just stating what most astrologers would say. We're talking about elements with out any influence from sources.

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posted January 20, 2013 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Is pluto in conjunction with those placements lol?
I feel the key word in this is pluto.


Trine.

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somethingexcellent
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posted January 20, 2013 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find Air signs remember things and they notice things but they may never tell you or bring it up. They have the faculty for holding grudges, they usually just don't. Air signs at best are ethical, and begrudging behaviour is not ethical.

They'll remember what you did to them, but do they hold it against you? Probably not.

Fire signs are sort of like the opposite. They hold it against you, but tend to forgive and forget quickly.

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Aquacheeka
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posted January 20, 2013 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Air signs talk more; fire signs date around more. Air is all talk, fire is about action.

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posted January 20, 2013 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Stacy lewis is just stating what most astrologers would say. We're talking about elements with out any influence from sources.

And I don't agree that that's what most astrologers would say. Perhaps a great many, but I'd question "most."

I've noticed that when some, if not many, people I've come across talk about the elements in astrology, they deal with them at a very basic level, which can be a disservice to those wanting to broaden their astrological knowledge beyond the basics.

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posted January 20, 2013 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Stacy lewis is just stating what most astrologers would say. We're talking about elements with out any influence from sources.

And I don't agree that that's what most astrologers would say. Perhaps a great many, but I'd question "most."

I've noticed that when some, if not many, people I've come across talk about the elements in astrology, they deal with them at a very basic level, which can be a disservice to those wanting to broaden their astrological knowledge beyond the basics.

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aquaguy91
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posted January 20, 2013 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
um, its all love aquaguy

haha now you are being sweet , what are you up to? :P

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12thhouser
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posted January 20, 2013 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
They have the faculty for holding grudges, they usually just don't.

Disagree.


Air signs at best are ethical, and begrudging behaviour is not ethical.

lol, depends how you'd "define ethics."

They'll remember what you did to them, but do they hold it against you? Probably not.

Again, disagree.

But, to each their own.


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Aquacheeka
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posted January 20, 2013 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Air signs aren't as confident; they seek outside validation from others. Fire signs aren't as conscious of or concerned about what other people are doing or thinking.

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12thhouser
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posted January 20, 2013 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Air signs aren't as confident; they seek outside validation from others.

lol definitely disagree, but I'm speaking from my own experience, not yours.

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hannaramaa
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posted January 20, 2013 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
lol definitely disagree, but I'm speaking from my own experience, not yours.

Why are you bothering going through and noting all who you disagree with? If you disagree that's fine, but state your opposition then, otherwise your disagreeing is useless to this thread and anybody interested in learning about the differences in air signs.

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posted January 20, 2013 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Air signs aren't as confident; they seek outside validation from others. Fire signs aren't as conscious of or concerned about what other people are doing or thinking.

yeah ive read that in many air vs fire descriptions and also see it all the time irl. of course there are exceptions...ie 12thhouser. remember tho 12thhouser u ARE a 12thhouser after all, an that influence makes u enjoy ur own company

but ive always read air n water NEED others
Fire n earth dont rly care

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12thhouser
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posted January 20, 2013 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Why are you bothering going through and noting all who you disagree with? If you disagree that's fine, but state your opposition then, otherwise your disagreeing is useless to this thread and anybody interested in learning about the differences in air signs.

Having done my own research and spoken with astrologers about this, the sign most capable of grudges and vindictiveness (my guess is to other people's surprise) is Aquarius. Some, if not many, may counter saying they've known plenty of Aquarians who don't display that kind of behavior. Question is, how Aquarian are they really?

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posted January 20, 2013 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
u ARE a 12thhouser after all, an that influence makes u enjoy ur own company

If you can't enjoy your own company, no one else will enjoy yours either.

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aquaguy91
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posted January 20, 2013 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Having done my own research and spoken with astrologers about this, the sign most capable of grudges and vindictiveness (my guess is to other people's surprise) is Aquarius. Some, if not many, may counter saying they've known plenty of Aquarians who don't display that kind of behavior. Question is, how Aquarian are they really?

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hannaramaa
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posted January 20, 2013 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Having done my own research and spoken with astrologers about this, the sign most capable of grudges and vindictiveness (my guess is to other people's surprise) is Aquarius. Some, if not many, may counter saying they've known plenty of Aquarians who don't display that kind of behavior. Question is, how Aquarian are they really?

Very detailed, thank you.

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