posted January 21, 2013 07:11 PM            

One is a guy. He is an Aries Sun/Moon and a Cap ascendant, if he gave me the right birth time. Well, he's very, very reckless. Smart guy, but makes certain life decisions that would seem to prove otherwise. I feel like he has a good heart and is generous, but often times winds up in situations with untrustworthy people. His friends seem to talk behind his back and people do in general. A lot associates did not like him right off the bat because he is overly energetic, sociable, and likes to be the center of attention. Seriously. He likes to jump on people, invade personal space, and play with people's faces/ears/etc like a kid... He can be really moody and gloomy but will not tolerate another person's emotional problems, ESPECIALLY if they involve him. He appears to have a bit of bad luck, as he is always involved in an accident, a bad relationship (his last gf turned out to be a sex worker and he didn't know it), switching jobs, schools, random violence, just all sorts of crazy sh1t. He's a little overbearing at times but means well... when I was in a relationship with him he would always disregard or disrespect my feelings with his rashness, generally not communicate and ignore me, but it seems now that we are platonic friends he treats me a bit better, actually A LOT better.

The other Aries is a woman and has a Taurus Moon. She does not have half the drama that the Aries Sun/Moon does, as a matter of fact despite knowing and associating with a lot of people, she's very aloof. She's very gifted at art (seriously, she could make lots off of her work), but is lazy about school. She has these odd fears and hang-ups.. like she told me that she has a phobia of the Moon, and she's very open about her pride in her virginity and her religious faith in general, and very judgmental and mistrustful of people. Other than that, she's attractive and God-fearing so naturally people are drawn to her, there's not much else I can say about her besides her being strongly conservative in her beliefs, Christian, artistic and fashion-conscious. Funny enough, she cannot stand the Aries guy I mentioned. But she's a regular (and both extraordinary) girl.

I feel like chart energy can be played out in so many ways, given the location, upbringing, gender, societal roles and rules, socioeconomic environment, etc the individual came up in. Having a lot of afflicting aspects like squares or even planets like Moon-Saturn or Sun-Pluto doesn't have to mean you will be a bad person. It could give you a lot of power to back you up in your undertakings and talents, change your life, and see life's obstacles from a certain perspective. It's a pathway to personal growth.

posted January 21, 2013 09:07 PM            

And any difference I can think of, I can explain away with other things in my chart.

I'm very friendly, usually...Venus conjunct Neptune.

When I'm mad, I'm seriously mad...Cap sun.

posted January 21, 2013 09:23 PM            

Over at Astrodienst they're kind of biased, and have spent entire threads slamming people with charts full of trines or sextiles...then wax rhapsodic about how people with deeply deeply afflicted charts are superhuman, and when someone posts a chart of someone they dislike or find untrustworthy, the first thing the members say is that the person is awful because of their grand trine, that sort of thing.

Then I've seen the other extreme too where people get all hot in the pants as soon as they see a grand trine in a natal chart.

Honestly, I think it's just more that people with deeply afflicted charts have a lot more inner conflicts and difficulties to work out. My chart is mostly sextiles and the thing I've noticed is that in general I'm pretty 'at-peace' with myself, and don't have *that* many hangups and issues. The people I've seen/known firsthand with charts riddled with squares and oppositions, seem to have a lot of 'stuff' they have to work out and a lot of inner turmoil.

posted January 21, 2013 09:23 PM            

My Sun squares my AC by 1 minute and moon by 20.

I have Venus conjunct Chrion opp Saturn/Uranus/Neptune.

posted January 21, 2013 09:45 PM            

And also, this leads me to ask a question. I really didn't add my chart up here because I have nearly an equal amount of squares, oppositions, trines, and a couple of sextiles peppered here and there with maybe two conjunctions, but does it depend on the planet? Because my inner planets suffer mostly from oppositions and squares, while Jupiter, Neptune, Uranus are trined.

posted January 21, 2013 11:56 PM            

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Originally posted by AriesKat:
I am pretty afflicted. a 12th house stellium and venus opp moon and moon square uranus.....

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posted January 21, 2013 11:59 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I have a pretty ugly chart.
Pluto is squaring Sun, Mercury and Moon.
Venus is sq Uranus.
Neptune is sq Ascendant.
Moon is opposite Sun, Venus, Mercury, Ceres, Saturn.
Uranus sq Saturn.
Mars is sq Jupiter and Neptune.
Merc inconj Neptune.

And oddly enough the only planet I think that has literally saved me in very bad times is my Cappy Moon.

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posted January 22, 2013 12:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow:
Interesting how do you feel and behave as a person?

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I'm very pensive. Calculating. Penetrating. Always torn between forces of "wanting" and "needing". STRONG forces!! Headbanging-please-go-away-forces. Very intuitive. Blunt. My heart is lovely and red and my mind is corrupt and black.

posted January 22, 2013 12:18 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I'm very pensive. Calculating. Penetrating. Always torn between forces of "wanting" and "needing". STRONG forces!! Headbanging-please-go-away-forces. Very intuitive. Blunt. My heart is lovely and red and my mind is corrupt and black.

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posted January 22, 2013 12:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
This is gonna sound super weird but this paragraph you wrote about your aspects/personality strikes me as very poetic. Maybe I need to go to bed, lol...

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It's true tho!! I know no other way of expressing myself!! Sometimes it comes out completely WRONG and sometimes it's just right.

posted January 22, 2015 03:24 AM            

Both are dominated by mutable T-squares, if not of the same type exactly. Hauptmann was born right near the 1899 “Great Sagittarius Conjunction” and his Virgo Moon and Pisces Ascendant are central to the squares, whereas de Foucauld’s is centred on a simple T-square of Mars, Jupiter and Neptune.

posted January 22, 2015 03:52 AM            

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Originally posted by StacyLewis:

Honestly, I think it's just more that people with deeply afflicted charts have a lot more inner conflicts and difficulties to work out. My chart is mostly sextiles and the thing I've noticed is that in general I'm pretty 'at-peace' with myself, and don't have *that* many hangups and issues. The people I've seen/known firsthand with charts riddled with squares and oppositions, seem to have a lot of 'stuff' they have to work out and a lot of inner turmoil.

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This fits for me, personally.
All planets in my chart are aspected, and only Jupiter doesn't have a hard aspect. Most have more than one, although I have some trines and sextiles in my chart as well.

posted January 22, 2015 06:02 AM            

My life is like yours. I don't talk much (actually, I talk all the time. To myself, my cats, dogs, goats, plants...). Sometimes there are days where I don't talk to anyone outside my kids or SO. Currently I don't think I've any friends to call up and go grab a coffee with.

But don't cry for me. With relationships come baggage. Don't get me wrong, I'll help someone with their baggage, but if rather help the right person than wear myself out with everyone else's.

posted January 22, 2015 07:27 AM            

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Originally posted by fairaqua:
I have saturn in a piller house (4th) and moon in the 8th.

My life is like yours. I don't talk much (actually, I talk all the time. To myself, my cats, dogs, goats, plants...). Sometimes there are days where I don't talk to anyone outside my kids or SO. Currently I don't think I've any friends to call up and go grab a coffee with.

But don't cry for me. With relationships come baggage. Don't get me wrong, I'll help someone with their baggage, but if rather help the right person than wear myself out with everyone else's.

Ive learned to enjoy my isolation.

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posted January 22, 2015 07:34 AM            

Rest is crap = t-squares.

But agree with StacyLewis. I think we have a lot of inner turmoil that has to be fixed. Maybe it's because we have so much contradictions, that we feel torn apart inside. Some people hide it more than others.
But I think one of the biggest problems is, that it's hard for other people to get really close to us. Both because we are filled with bad luck and many difficult situations that make people tired of being with us, but also because we are filled with so many contradictions all the time, and don't always understand our own personalities.
And if we are together with people who has very easy chart, they don't get it (and synastry is often bad probably). And on the side, if we match up with people of our own kind (difficult chart) we can't get along after a while probably, because we have all our own problems to deal with.
So it's hard for us to have lifelong friendships or longtherm relationships...

But! The drive is certainly there, because we are forced to meet obstacles from the day we were born... so actually we learn a lot, compared to those with trines and sextiles all over their chart.
We definitely have the drive and motivation, because we don't have another choice...

posted January 22, 2015 07:38 AM            

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Originally posted by StacyLewis:
Depends on who you ask.

Over at Astrodienst they're kind of biased, and have spent entire threads slamming people with charts full of trines or sextiles...then wax rhapsodic about how people with deeply deeply afflicted charts are superhuman, and when someone posts a chart of someone they dislike or find untrustworthy, the first thing the members say is that the person is awful because of their grand trine, that sort of thing.

Then I've seen the other extreme too where people get all hot in the pants as soon as they see a grand trine in a natal chart.

Honestly, I think it's just more that people with deeply afflicted charts have a lot more inner conflicts and difficulties to work out. My chart is mostly sextiles and the thing I've noticed is that in general I'm pretty 'at-peace' with myself, and don't have *that* many hangups and issues. The people I've seen/known firsthand with charts riddled with squares and oppositions, seem to have a lot of 'stuff' they have to work out and a lot of inner turmoil.

Does that mean that either is better than the other? No. It just means some people have more on their plates to contend with than others.

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Yea, I'm with ya. All people can elevate to something extraordinary. It is just harder for some. My cousins chart is all messed up and he reports feeling constantly confused and conflicted.