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Ceridwen
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posted February 02, 2013 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been looking up my parent`s age harmonics, or rather their daily age harmonics on the day of their wedding.

Got inspired by this article here: http://aliceportman.com/prince-williams-age-harmonics-for-his-wedding/


The age harmonics for the whole year you can make on astro.com (just put in the number of your age in the field for the harmonic), but there is unfortunately no option for daily harmonics.


Have to post the results later though.

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Ceridwen
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posted February 02, 2013 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The orb is 1 degree usually, but since in Daily Age Harmonics even seconds (!) - and who knows which second he was born!- may result in a degree difference of the angles, I am allowing an orb of 2 degrees for the angles and the Moon (the others do not move that much anyway).

The Age Harmonics (AH) describe the potential for the whole year, the Daily Age harmonic (DAH) those for just a day.


my Dad`s Age Harmonics in the year he got maried to my mum (I am focusing on conjunctions and opposition within 1 degree, and only those that seem relevant for love, relationships and marriage)
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AH mercury conjunct AH Saturn
(natally they rule ASC and 5th house and are in mutual reception and are trine each other, with Saturn on the ASC).


AH Venus conjunct AH MC exact!


AH Moon conjunct natal Moon in 8th house

AH DESC conjunct natal IC exact

AH Mercury and AH SAturn conjunct natal Uranus in 10th house

His Daily Age harmonics
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DAH Sun opposite DAH Moon (2 degrees)

DAH DESC widely conjunct natal Jupiter in 5th house (3 degrees)


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my mum`s Age harmonics

AH Sun opposite AH Saturn in 5th house (2 degrees) and Saturn rules natal 7th and 8th house

AH Venus conjuncts natal ASC exact (!)

AH Moon opposite natal Pluto wide (2)

AH Mars conjunct natal Jupiter in 10th house

AH Sun opposite natal Neptune in 5th house



her Daily Age harmonics
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DAH DESC conjunct DAH Pluto in 8th house

DAH Moon exactly conjunct natal PoF (Moon rules ASC)

DAH Mars conjunct natal ASC (and AH Venus was conjunct natal ASC as well)

DAH Sun conjunct natal Pluto exact

DAH Uranus conjunct natal Saturn exact-
Saturn ruling her 7th and 8th house, and she married an Aquarius!

DAH Venus conjunct natal Neptune in 5th house (2 degrees) - a tad wide


DAH South Node conjunct natal North Node on natal MC EXACT - 8 Pisces

And the interesting thing is that this is the PRECISE degree where my Dad`s AH Venus-MC-conjunction fell!

All on 8 Pisces. lol


I find those age harmonics really stunning.

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posted February 02, 2013 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
synastrically I compared the AH and DAH to each natal.


-My Dad`s AH Moon PRECISELY opposite my Mum`s natal Sun in her 5th house
(emphasizing their natal Moon-Sun-opposition, which is 1,5 degrees)

- his AH Uranus opposite her natal Mercury in the 5th house
- his AH Mars (8th ruler) conjunct her natal Mercury in her 5th house

- his AH Pluto opposite her natal VErtex in 5th house

- his AH Neptune (his 7th ruler) opposite her natal Vertex in 5th house exact

- his AH Venus and AH MC PRECISELY conjunct her natal MC


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- his DAH Moon opposite her 5th house Mercury (2)

- his DAH Pluto conjunct her natal ASC (2 degrees) - and consequently of course also conjunct her AH Venus and DAH Mars!

- his DAH Vertex conjunct her natal Moon in 4th huose

- his DAH Mercury (ruler of aSC) opposite her natal Jupiter exact

- his DAH North Node precisely conjuncts her natal Vertex in 5th house (in Scorpio of course - with all that pluto, Iam not surprised)

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posted February 02, 2013 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the other perspective

- her AH Saturn conjuncts his Natal Neptune
Saturn rules her 7th and 8th, NEptune rules his 7th

- her AH Sun in his 8th opposite his natal Neptune


- her AH Neptune conjunct his MC
Neptune rules her MC

- her AH Uranus opposite his natal Sun widely in his 5t house (2 degrees)

- her AH Jupiter opposite his natal Venus-Jupiter-conjunction in his 5th house

- her DAH Neptune conjunct his natal Mars-South-Node

- her DAH Venus conjunct his natal Neptune precisely

- her DAH SAturn (7th and 8th ruler) conjuncts his natal Sun in his 5th house exact

- her DAH Pluto conjuncts his natal Jupiter in 5th house

- her DAH MC conjuncts his natal MC

- her DAH Jupiter conjuncts his natal Pluto in 11th house exact

I honestly do not know what to say to this.


(as you can see I used only conjunctions/Oppositions preferably with one degree, and only in exceptions with 2 degrees - and only really compared the harmonics to the natal chart. Still these aspects speak volumes, and actually are also very telling about their relationship through the years. I am officially stunned. ).

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posted February 02, 2013 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeathIsanIllusion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for bringing this up. Wonderful thread. Harmonics fascinate me enormously. And yeah, the MegaVirgoan precision of TOB needed in order for the angles especially to be cast 100% accurately is mind-blowing. What orbs do you usually use? I think we should not refrain ourselves from using a much wider orb than we would expect. I read here in a thread that an orb of 5 is acceptable. www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/201724.html

Do you think we should use this 5-degree orb only for conjunctions and oppositions, and maybe trines + squares? What about sextiles?

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posted February 03, 2013 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I am using a 5 degree orb for natal synastry.

But age harmonics and Daily age harmonics belong in the group of the "moving horoscope" (progressions, directions etc.), as they highlight a certain year or even only a day, and events or even emotional processes are triggered/ peaking when they are close to exactness (one degree is a good rule of thumb; it is like the astrology saying to you: It is not next year or next month, it is NOW).

I am only expanding the orb a little (and probably Alice Portman would disagree with this) for the angles and Moon in DAH, because one minute difference in the birthtime can end up a 3 degree difference in the ASC for example.

I have this one.
I can actually pick SECONDS for my birthtime (I have Solar fire on my home comp).

For this year`s Age harmonics, if I pick the birthtime of 7:07:00 a.m I end up with an ASC of 26°37 ARies.

With a birth time of 7:07:59 a.m. the ASC falls onto 3°38 Taurus.

Quite a difference, right?


Well, I guess I could make a rectification using age harmonics for certain years or even better daily age harmonics for certain events to see when the angles are being triggered.

Hmm, checking not even the Moon really changes the degree, only the angles do. So I am willing to check for a bigger orb for aspects to angles than I usually do for event-based or yearly astrology.


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Well, I have done such a rectification for myself, and end up tiwht an AGE harmonic asc of 27 Aries.

The amazing thing is, I checked for about a dozen events that were personally important days for me, and EVERY single time, the DAH ASC was being triggered EXACTLY, usually way under one degree.


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posted March 08, 2013 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlefrenchy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,
I 'm discovering age harmonic charts. It's very interesting, but there are many things I am wondering about .
Perhaps somebody can help me ?
In synastry, is it relevant/pertinent to compare age chart to age chart, or must me compare each age chart with the natal chart of the other person ?
And another question : do you think that the feeling (illusion ?) that I have of feeling a "sudden telepathic communication" with someone , could be explained by the fact that this year, his Age Harmonic Sun is precisely conjunct 0,02 degrees my Age Harmonic Sun ?
This is something I discovered yesterday night, and I really found this stunning. Very odd coincidence. His age Sun is now 28°52 scorpio, and my age Sun is now 28°50 scorpio
!!!

Besides the suns conjunct, there are two other things I noticed in our two age charts :
-My Age H Moon conjunct his Age H South Node,
-his Age Psyche/Pluto conjunct my Age H North node.

Could this precise Psyche/Pluto conjunction he has this year,could have a link to my odd dreams of him, especially as they both conjunct a age node of mine ?

I don't know if it is relevant to compare age charts to natals, but if it is, I must precise that his age vertex is now conjunct his venus, and BOTH of us are on absolute zero degre place of my natal Sun.
According to you, could all this explain my impression of being specially mentally connected to this person since a few months (wake up at night, strange dreams where I see him talking to me, feeling of having "memories" of things shared between us, that in fact are not real mémories at all and never occurred , etc etc)

Age harmonics definitely seems to have important things to tell , but what ?

Thank you !

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Ceridwen
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posted March 11, 2013 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"n synastry, is it relevant/pertinent to compare age chart to age chart, or must me compare each age chart with the natal chart of the other person ?"
You can do both imo. But keep the orbs at 1° max.


"And another question : do you think that the feeling (illusion ?) that I have of feeling a "sudden telepathic communication" with someone , could be explained by the fact that this year, his Age Harmonic Sun is precisely conjunct 0,02 degrees my Age Harmonic Sun ?"
No I don´t think a conjunction of two Suns can do that; though it might indicate some common ground.


"-My Age H Moon conjunct his Age H South Node,
-his Age Psyche/Pluto conjunct my Age H North node."
This would make for an emotional connection for the year, and the second aspect of course is very relevant in terms of powerful and probing psychic insights or connection.

"Could this precise Psyche/Pluto conjunction he has this year,could have a link to my odd dreams of him, especially as they both conjunct a age node of mine ?"
To be honest I`d think it would be rather him dreaming of you with his Psyche involved. But you never know.

" but if it is, I must precise that his age vertex is now conjunct his venus, and BOTH of us are on absolute zero degre place of my natal Sun."
VERY significant year for the both of you! He seems ready to meet love this year and it might come like a bolt out of the blue (I have that myself AH Vertex exactly conjunct natal Venus, and funnily enough a certain gentleman`s AH Mars is precisely conjunct. lol)


"(wake up at night, strange dreams where I see him talking to me, feeling of having "memories" of things shared between us, that in fact are not real mémories at all and never occurred , etc etc)"
I know what you mean. Am there myself. lol
As for not real memory, maybe past life stuff coming up?

I do think however there will be other strong aspects on top of the mentioned ones to indicate that. Maybe aspects you did not check yet.
howe about Moon, Neptune, Uranus, Psyche, Pallas, Anubis etc?


"ge harmonics definitely seems to have important things to tell , but what ?"
The effect you have on each other for a given amount of time, similiar to progressions.


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posted March 11, 2013 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlefrenchy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much for your answer !
You said age H compared to natal are important, so I checked some other things.
I discovered a lot and I'm afraid

Well the situation is tragic, I am not myself anymore , I am like "possessed" by his mental strengh, from distance at mean. This is true. I begin to understand, looking at this:
(incredible)
age H to natal :
his age H vertex/venus is exactly at the point of my natal sun.
and
my age H vertex is exactly at the point of his natal sun , too !

argh ! it's frightening

his age NN is exact at the place of my natal moon
and
my age Chiron/NN is exact at the place of His natal moon/DEC
and
His age H Chiron is on my natal DEC

fate is over me !!!

+

my age H Mars is 1 degree his natal Venus

my age Pluto is on his natal Vertex

his age saturn/Horus is on my natal ASC,

I also noticed that the two age H sphinx are conjunct, 1°5 aries in both charts

I only consider conjunctions under 2, if I take larger, there are more numerous.

I have not yet studied the houses and rulers


However , I worry a lot.

The simple "normal" synastry was already worrying, with his karma/atlantis/isis/osiris/ on my SN, his sphinx on my NN and all the rest. The draconic was worse. The 9 th harmonic again worse.
And now, this ....
This does not make me happy, this makes me worried. I would like to escape his mental super-power over me, but I can't. It is just like a spell. I feel the weight of fate, and I suppose his natal Pluto on my Sun and Mars do not improve the situation. We are not together, so how can this guy "teleguide" me at distance and even invade all my dreams ? last night I dreamt I was flying or something like that (don't laugh at me , please) and we were flying together very high in the sky , like birds, I even felt the wind in my hair, it was great in one sense , but it is not what I call a NORMAL dream !! Not even erotic or something like that. Is it normal to fly like a bird and visit countries from above ? We had a date, but in the space ! Kind of "please meet me at 3000 meters high tonight". is it normal ? no , it is NOT
I'm afraid this tells me I'm going to die or something like that.

I 'm going to look at the progressed chart, to see if the situation is going to improve soon !
thank you for your help and answer. it is very warming to receive some help.



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posted March 11, 2013 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool, my 14th Harmonic Age's Dejanira conjunct my Sun, maybe this year I Will feel more vulnerable and opened to other's vicitmizations and manipulations. Which is true.

I also have AC in Scorpio in there, too.

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posted March 11, 2013 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlefrenchy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dejanira is the poor goddess who was abused with Nessus is'nt she ?

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posted April 01, 2013 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by littlefrenchy:
Dejanira is the poor goddess who was abused with Nessus is'nt she ?


Yes.

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