posted February 09, 2013 05:45 PM            

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Originally posted by lovehate122:
If you have this aspect in your natal how do you deal ? and what happens if someones pluto squares your sun ? How would you react ?

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I have Sun sq Pluto but I also have Mercury and Moon sq Pluto so I can't really say how it affects me.

posted February 10, 2013 02:33 PM            

In relationships, I can't really say as I also have Venus in the 12th house, so I'm often attracted to the wrong people. I've had three relationships and in all of them, it was actually me who was being dominated.

It does give me a lot of willpower when things get rough. I never know how I do it, but I always manage to either drag myself through it or at some point decide it's been enough and I pick myself back up. It's like a switch gets flipped inside my head, I just... feel it's the right moment to get back into things? I'm very sensitive and I've accepted that's how people see me, so it was a huge surprise for me to find out what I could put up with when I had to. So the "stomping all over others" might not be that powerful. I see it as a quiet strength that comes out when it's needed. Or it can really set off your temper, like said in the replies above mine...

I'm struggling with it as well. Often it feels as if the minute I show another side of me or when I'm not all sunshine and rainbows, people go off on me or at least complain about my attitude, calling me a whiner or a killjoy. Yeah, well, sorry. I'm only human, sometimes I'm in a bad mood. But when I try to tell them so they know where they stand with me (that it's nothing personal or something they did or said, no, I'm just not feeling too good at the moment), it's not always taken well. Ego struggles indeed.

In which houses are the Sun and Pluto? That could give you more of an idea. (Do you have the aspect or somebody else?)

posted February 10, 2013 04:48 PM            

I'd say it manifested very negatively in my teen years. Made me just perenially frustrated: very impatient, very intolerant, very temperamental, etc. And yes, I think it can make one very tyrannical, too.

But, think all Plutonian people need just a huge lesson in letting go and that's what eventually brings some peace and stability into your life.

This aspect can also be caught in a lot of power struggles. The 'control or be controlled' game meisseri talked about is spot on. But, I've learned to detach from it. It's all a matter of perspective. No one can TRULY control you. Authority figures can tell you what to do, when we're younger our parents play the same role. But, we make the CHOICE of whether to follow or not. If I really resented my boss that much, I could just quit my job. If I felt that dominated by my parent, I could limit my interactions with them and also just simply tell them "No, I won't do that." And no one can truly control anyone's true nature or personality, not even us powerful Plutonians. We can hardly even control our own true nature. People are who they are.

With maturity, a Sun square Pluto person will know how to handle these situations better, especially as they seem to attract them into their lives. I always tell myself that all of the important power comes from within. THERE IS NO REAL POWER STRUGGLE. At least, not externally. That's a good motto to go by for all Plutonians. Because, the compulsion to engage in power struggles means that you're not properly handling your own power within. Once you accept that you hold a power inside that NO ONE can ever take away from you, no matter what they say or do, you'll see no need to indulge in those battles for control.

posted February 10, 2013 05:22 PM            

Basically, no tolerance for people saying they will do something, and then not doing it. No tolerance for "Experts" who do not know what they are doing.

Just be real, we'll get along fine, from beggar to the wealthy, just be yourself.

posted February 10, 2013 06:15 PM            

I read that "control or be controlled" thing either on AstroClick or CafeAstrology. Immediately hit home with me. Especially the CA one is so good, it was like someone had taken a page from my diary. So personal!

4th and 7th, wow, that sounds hard. I'm only a beginner, so I don't know how much of a help I can be, but could it have to do with life and feeling safe at home? Someone's strongest feelings come out in private/behind closed doors, like because they feel they can't really relax and let go? With the 7th house, that might be towards the partner. If anyone has a better interpretation, please do.

So, what about the houses Sun and Pluto are in? Can they make it easier or harder to cope with? My gut says it would change some of the attitude that person has towards the aspect.

I agree on the choice thing as well! Even though it doesn't feel like it, you still get to choose in how you try to deal with it. Sometimes it feels more intern than extern. Or it becomes extern because you ignore what you feel? That moment when it gets through to you that you can't change people, even though you think they should... it's painful. And yes, it makes you so much more aware of yourself. The learning is wonderful <3

posted February 17, 2013 12:08 PM            

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Originally posted by lovehate122:
Oh okay But how would a person react to having that aspect in synastry?

Like example if My pluto is square someones sun and their sun is square there own pluto?

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My boyfriend is the pluto and i am the sun.

posted June 24, 2013 06:24 PM            

He is very intense and he takes our relationship so seriously its like life or death to him . And I don't think he can let go .

his sun in virgo squares his pluto in sag

yes in SAGITTARIUS ! he's a teenager and they way he talks about our relationship you'd swear he was a 40 year old man and im his wife haha

posted June 24, 2013 07:08 PM            

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Originally posted by lovehate122:
Really hahaha my "Boyfriend" is insane I wish he just questioned me he full on demands an explanation for things he's the whole reason im asking this question .

He is very intense and he takes our relationship so seriously its like life or death to him . And I don't think he can let go .

his sun in virgo squares his pluto in sag

yes in SAGITTARIUS ! he's a teenager and they way he talks about our relationship you'd swear he was a 40 year old man and im his wife haha

his moon is in Capricorn tho

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Cool that's me but i have Pisces sun & Leo/Virgo moon square Sag pluto.

posted June 24, 2013 07:26 PM            

To add to the thread, I have this aspect in synastry and composite with anyone around my age (as Pluto's generational), and it can become pretty messy when more personal planets are involved. The square between Leo and Scorpio is tough, I don't want to back off and leave a toxic friendship or relationship even if it'd clearly be best for me. My Sun doesn't want to out of fear of being made fun of or not having given it a proper chance, then Pluto Scorpio doesn't want to look weak. So I stay. It sucks.

But on the plus side, it gives you a very strong sense of survival. I hate how many of my friends end up treating me (Sun in the 11th making the aspect), I hate how I end up alone so often... but I can do it. I just don't want to.