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Topic: Venus in Scorpio...help!
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venuscorpio86 Knowflake Posts: 147 From: salem,or usa Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 09, 2013 07:53 PM
I don't know about any other venus in Scorps out there, but I absolute LOATHE this placement! I am a Sagittarius; happy go lucky, fun, laid back, all that fun stuff, except when it comes to my love life it's an absolute disaster....I get completely heart broken, I am very temperamental with the men, I am a just awful! I can't control it. In the beginning of the relationship it's great the men adore me, but once problems arise I just can't handle myself it's terrible! I go from hate to liking them again and expect them to forgive my emotional volatile outbursts...if they don't I hate them with very much deep hate...I am not on friendly terms with any ex.I just want some advice from ppl out there with this, what do you do to control it? I feel if I continue way I do, I will wreck every relationship and always leave myself to be heartbroken, depressed,etc. IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23 Knowflake Posts: 416 From: virginia, usa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 09, 2013 07:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by venuscorpio86: I don't know about any other venus in Scorps out there, but I absolute LOATHE this placement! I am a Sagittarius; happy go lucky, fun, laid back, all that fun stuff, except when it comes to my love life it's an absolute disaster....I get completely heart broken, I am very temperamental with the men, I am a just awful! I can't control it. In the beginning of the relationship it's great the men adore me, but once problems arise I just can't handle myself it's terrible! I go from hate to liking them again and expect them to forgive my emotional volatile outbursts...if they don't I hate them with very much deep hate...I am not on friendly terms with any ex.I just want some advice from ppl out there with this, what do you do to control it? I feel if I continue way I do, I will wreck every relationship and always leave myself to be heartbroken, depressed,etc.
Hey venuscorpio, I have Venus in scorpio. (I also have moon in scorpio conjunct pluto.) I can relate to the sort of all or nothing mentality in romantic (or even close relationships) you are describing. I very much dislike my jealousy. For me, what I have done is I have tried to become secure in myself. (This is still a work in progress.) The more secure I am in myself the less that jealousy can bother me. I do know that I crave intensity and have tried to learn to accept this and not force it upon someone else. If I think of anything else I will post again. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted February 09, 2013 08:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by venuscorpio86: I don't know about any other venus in Scorps out there, but I absolute LOATHE this placement! I am a Sagittarius; happy go lucky, fun, laid back, all that fun stuff, except when it comes to my love life it's an absolute disaster....I get completely heart broken, I am very temperamental with the men, I am a just awful! I can't control it. In the beginning of the relationship it's great the men adore me, but once problems arise I just can't handle myself it's terrible! I go from hate to liking them again and expect them to forgive my emotional volatile outbursts...if they don't I hate them with very much deep hate...I am not on friendly terms with any ex.I just want some advice from ppl out there with this, what do you do to control it? I feel if I continue way I do, I will wreck every relationship and always leave myself to be heartbroken, depressed,etc.
I have the same placement, Saggie Sun/V in Scorpio and..wow..yep What's worse is at first I'll dislike someone, then I'll really like them. As for a solution..have learned to relax..it's only "whatever" until they prove they are worth more to me.
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venuscorpio86 Knowflake Posts: 147 From: salem,or usa Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 09, 2013 08:09 PM
hmmm...maybe I need to do the same thing, look at everyone as whatever. It's really bad I mean, not to sound conceited or anything but I am actually a really great catch I have my quirks, but overall, I am really great & am well liked among ppl, socially my life is good. Just those pesky relationship issues. The past 2 relationships I had were INTENSE! They started off amazing, ended terrible. 1st one, we had sun/pluto aspect, mars/pluto, venus conjunct pluto, he was a scorpio with venus in scorpio. The 2nd relationship had venus/pluto mutually aspecting 1 another, mars/pluto mutually aspecting, venus/mars, he was a venus in taurus. Maybe I need find someone I don't have so much pluto with IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted February 09, 2013 08:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by venuscorpio86: hmmm...maybe I need to do the same thing, look at everyone as whatever. It's really bad I mean, not to sound conceited or anything but I am actually a really great catch I have my quirks, but overall, I am really great & am well liked among ppl, socially my life is good. Just those pesky relationship issues. The past 2 relationships I had were INTENSE! They started off amazing, ended terrible. 1st one, we had sun/pluto aspect, mars/pluto, venus conjunct pluto, he was a scorpio with venus in scorpio. The 2nd relationship had venus/pluto mutually aspecting 1 another, mars/pluto mutually aspecting, venus/mars, he was a venus in taurus. Maybe I need find someone I don't have so much pluto with
So true, there is literally not a situation where I cannot fit into. BUT, as you say, relationship start out just insane, then, eventually, crashes into the side of the mtn and "we" are left with asking ourselves..WTF is wrong here? And I have most of those placements as well, and things just seem so happy and loving then..the "us" comes out and just expect the partner to deal with it. However it is not all a one way street, those from the outside should understand how deeply we blame ourselves when things go wrong. BUT, that is usually just in our heads, if one asks later the response is normally "Oh, you were fine" INOW, be good to yourself
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bridgetostars23 Knowflake Posts: 416 From: virginia, usa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 09, 2013 08:17 PM
@venuscorpio What's your moon, ascendant, mars, mercury ?IP: Logged |
venuscorpio86 Knowflake Posts: 147 From: salem,or usa Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 09, 2013 08:18 PM
Great feedback! Yes, I find it very difficult to comprehend how after we lash out, they leave us or dislike us. Therefore, it makes me more mad & leaves me with much animosity towards that person...Granted relationship number 1 guy was bad news anyway, but relationships #2 was a nice guy, but I hate him for leaving,telling me neg. things back etc.. I call these relationships cause its easier to classify them that way...however, the 1st only lasted 4 mths, 2nd one only 2mths but both felt very deep, very passionate as if we had known each other for years!! They also mentioned this, I don't understand how they felt so magnetic (relationships) so quick & how they were so deep so fast..I never had a situation that was not like this IP: Logged |
venuscorpio86 Knowflake Posts: 147 From: salem,or usa Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 09, 2013 08:21 PM
@Bridgetostars.My ascendant is Aquarius My mars is in in Aquarius My moon is in Leo. I have a synastry chart (for#2 relationship) and my natal chart. I know my placements, just not sure what they mean. IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23 Knowflake Posts: 416 From: virginia, usa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 09, 2013 08:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by venuscorpio86: @Bridgetostars.My ascendant is Aquarius My mars is in in Aquarius My moon is in Leo. I have a synastry chart (for#2 relationship) and my natal chart. I know my placements, just not sure what they mean.
Well, all of those energies are fixed while your sun sign in sagittarius is mutable. IP: Logged |
venuscorpio86 Knowflake Posts: 147 From: salem,or usa Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 09, 2013 08:33 PM
@bridgetothestars what does that mean exactly?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39751 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 09, 2013 08:33 PM
Venus in Scorpio is hard because it is the Fall( or Detriment) Either way, venus bristles in Scorpio cuz Scorpio is too intense a sign for Venus.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted February 09, 2013 08:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by venuscorpio86: Great feedback! Yes, I find it very difficult to comprehend how after we lash out, they leave us or dislike us. Therefore, it makes me more mad & leaves me with much animosity towards that person...Granted relationship number 1 guy was bad news anyway, but relationships #2 was a nice guy, but I hate him for leaving,telling me neg. things back etc.. I call these relationships cause its easier to classify them that way...however, the 1st only lasted 4 mths, 2nd one only 2mths but both felt very deep, very passionate as if we had known each other for years!! They also mentioned this, I don't understand how they felt so magnetic (relationships) so quick & how they were so deep so fast..I never had a situation that was not like this
My goodness, you speak my language so to speak. And that sort of rapport extends beyond romance, I'd bet you've had people just tell you intimate stuff without even asking! As for the breakups..really tough to deal with actually, we know them so well so when the pain comes from an area we did not expect..it really hurts...and I do mean a lot. That sort of sense of betrayal..'nuff said, just say it's not pretty For me, I've learned to let it drive me, for a woman it's probably different. But admittedly..do not know
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whitewitch111 Knowflake Posts: 227 From: Hillsboro, OR, USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 09, 2013 08:46 PM
I am a Venus in Scorpio as well, what I learned to do was some meditation and let things go, also get involved in things you love like paitning or writing, it will help with calling your boyfriends 24/7 IP: Logged |
whitewitch111 Knowflake Posts: 227 From: Hillsboro, OR, USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 09, 2013 08:47 PM
I guarantee i have it worse then you lol, I have Venus in Scorpio and sun and moon egsactly conjunct in Libra, meaning I obsess over partnerships like you wouldn't believe, basically I learned how to control by the above statements.IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted February 09, 2013 08:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by whitewitch111: I guarantee i have it worse then you lol, I have Venus in Scorpio and sun and moon egsactly conjunct in Libra, meaning I obsess over partnerships like you wouldn't believe, basically I learned how to control by the above statements.
And that is why betrayal hurts us so much. All of the drive to make it work, then to have it fail, then to have a knife slid into our emotional backs This is one of the reasons why (imho) those in Scorpio placements seem so mysterious but attractive Pride and Caution, we don't want to be hurt again. IP: Logged |
venuscorpio86 Knowflake Posts: 147 From: salem,or usa Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 09, 2013 08:51 PM
Ya, I don't have a problem with being extremely clingy with my men as long as we get along, there is not fighting etc...once we hit a bump in road I LASH out get angry angry, then when they react neg. say they are done I go on & on & on & on...so I guess as long as I'm happy & the situation is perfect Im happy its when issues arise. Its so hard for me to grasp the fact that they would leave me after they were so enthralled with me before. I guess maybe I push them away I say very horrible things when I am mad and hurt things that I wouldn't normally saY. But, I also feel like the other person should realize I didn't mean it...its a ugly vicious thing IP: Logged |
black_rose Newflake Posts: 6 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 09, 2013 08:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by bridgetostars23: I do know that I crave intensity and have tried to learn to accept this and not force it upon someone else.
Amen. I am Venus conjunct Eros in Scorpio with Libra rising, so Venus is my chart ruler.. also Pluto in the first house! And Lilith exsctly conjunct my Asc I don't lightly enter into relationships often, romantic or otherwise.. it's not that I don't get along with happy go lucky people.. it's just if it never seems to go beyond a superficial level, I lose interest. I'm also somewhat secretive about NOT DATING, which has led to a lot of speculation by other people I'm involved with socially. Guys I've known a while tend to (after a few beers ) inquire about my love life.. many suspecting that I have a store room full of secret lovers somewhere. When I say that I don't really date, they usually say "that's a shame" or that they've always thought they could see us together. And I'm like you obviously have noooo idea how crazy, obsessive, jealous and intense I am when I reeeeallllyyy like someone. I find that other people with Pluto or 8th house influence in their chart are the ones that end up being close friends for me. I just love being around other people who explore and embrace their hidden sides. Right now there's a Cap rising with his Saturn conjunct my Venus in Scorp.. and my Pluto conj his Venus. I am dying, we can barely stand to look at each other because as soon as we do our eyes lock and the Scorp intensity is crrazzzyy. I'm so into it! But yeah, other people without the Scorp influence doooo noooot get it. I try to save them all the pain and sorrow of ever getting involved with me VenusScorpio86, I say embrace the intensity and roll with it! Find someone to plunge the depths of this placement with
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venuscorpio86 Knowflake Posts: 147 From: salem,or usa Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 09, 2013 08:55 PM
Awesome response. I did find my venus in scorpio man who was sun venus. We got along well, but even he couldn't handle my mean streak when I was upset. He called my aunt and told her, what a beautiful girl but that mouth of hers and the things she says are so awful I can't take it lol..so maybe I need therapy lots of it lol!IP: Logged |
Hecate Knowflake Posts: 236 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted February 09, 2013 08:58 PM
I found this article I think it my help those who have a Venus in scorpio or who loves someone with this placement "You may not know when a Venus in Scorpio likes you because they hide it until you surrender at their feet. Venus in Scorpio lovers don’t win your love by courting you. They lure you in with their mysterious animal magnetism. The victim, I mean the object of their affection, will not know how or why, but cannot help falling under their spell. How do they do this? Venus in Scorpio lovers are intuitive and able to penetrate deep into your psyche, discovering all your secrets as they observe you. They can see into your soul. When Venus in Scorpio loves you, they focus only on you, not having eyes for anyone else. They are intensely loyal and passionate. Scorpio’s passion is not “showy” like the fire signs; Scorpio passion is a silent, deep well of never-ending commitment and loyalty. But even if they love you, they will not open up to you easily. They remain mysteriously reserved until they decide to trust you. If you earn their trust, they are capable of deep tenderness and open intimacy. If Venus in Scorpio loves you, they will risk anything, even their own life, for you. They are extremely protective of those they love. Scorpio is a water sign, so they express love on an emotional level. They have deep emotions...." http://astrolibrary.org/scorpio-in-love/
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Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted February 09, 2013 08:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by black_rose: Amen. I am Venus conjunct Eros in Scorpio with Libra rising, so Venus is my chart ruler.. also Pluto in the first house! And Lilith exsctly conjunct my Asc I don't lightly enter into relationships often, romantic or otherwise.. it's not that I don't get along with happy go lucky people.. it's just if it never seems to go beyond a superficial level, I lose interest. I'm also somewhat secretive about NOT DATING, which has led to a lot of speculation by other people I'm involved with socially. Guys I've known a while tend to (after a few beers ) inquire about my love life.. many suspecting that I have a store room full of secret lovers somewhere. When I say that I don't really date, they usually say "that's a shame" or that they've always thought they could see us together. And I'm like you obviously have noooo idea how crazy, obsessive, jealous and intense I am when I reeeeallllyyy like someone. I find that other people with Pluto or 8th house influence in their chart are the ones that end up being close friends for me. I just love being around other people who explore and embrace their hidden sides. Right now there's a Cap rising with his Saturn conjunct my Venus in Scorp.. and my Pluto conj his Venus. I am dying, we can barely stand to look at each other because as soon as we do our eyes lock and the Scorp intensity is crrazzzyy. I'm so into it! But yeah, other people without the Scorp influence doooo noooot get it. I try to save them all the pain and sorrow of ever getting involved with me VenusScorpio86, I say embrace the intensity and roll with it! Find someone to plunge the depths of this placement with
My goodness, I choose a good night to be "here" 8th house Scorpio, and what happens is people just project stuff on us. "I bet you have lots of ..." Uhm no, we observe, maintain ourselves and just usually do not need a focus of love interest. But when one does come into focus, we hop in deeply and intensely..as in stay up all night and listen etc etc to whom we care about IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted February 09, 2013 09:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hecate: I found this article I think it my help those who have a Venus in scorpio or who loves someone with this placement "You may not know when a Venus in Scorpio likes you because they hide it until you surrender at their feet. Venus in Scorpio lovers don’t win your love by courting you. They lure you in with their mysterious animal magnetism. The victim, I mean the object of their affection, will not know how or why, but cannot help falling under their spell. How do they do this? Venus in Scorpio lovers are intuitive and able to penetrate deep into your psyche, discovering all your secrets as they observe you. They can see into your soul. When Venus in Scorpio loves you, they focus only on you, not having eyes for anyone else. They are intensely loyal and passionate. Scorpio’s passion is not “showy” like the fire signs; Scorpio passion is a silent, deep well of never-ending commitment and loyalty. But even if they love you, they will not open up to you easily. They remain mysteriously reserved until they decide to trust you. If you earn their trust, they are capable of deep tenderness and open intimacy. If Venus in Scorpio loves you, they will risk anything, even their own life, for you. They are extremely protective of those they love. Scorpio is a water sign, so they express love on an emotional level. They have deep emotions...." http://astrolibrary.org/scorpio-in-love/
True..to a point..we don't like people falling at our feet, it seems to damn weak TBH. A Scorpio at relationships end: "I did everything for you" "I know, that is the problem" And have to add..it extends to friendships as well IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted February 09, 2013 09:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by venuscorpio86: Awesome response. I did find my venus in scorpio man who was sun venus. We got along well, but even he couldn't handle my mean streak when I was upset. He called my aunt and told her, what a beautiful girl but that mouth of hers and the things she says are so awful I can't take it lol..so maybe I need therapy lots of it lol!
Called the Auntie? That is not a gentleman for you! Thing is, "we" seem to examine stuff so deeply that when we do lash out people think it is really being heartfelt. When reality is..we just angry for a hot minute, walk away, let us calm down and pay no attention to the lashes..it's just us. Give it an hour, and we'll be fine IP: Logged |
starzy54 Knowflake Posts: 461 From: CA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted February 09, 2013 09:28 PM
What I've come to realize, is if you find someone who can handle your Venus in Scorpio, you have a keeper! lol. Its the one thing I used to wish I could change about my chart though. I am over dramatic, intense, very dangerous and make most men's head spin. I've been called exhausting, alluring, very mean, and the sweetest person on Earth in the same argument. I don't see myself as insecure,clingy or jealous. I just have extremely high expectations and feel I deserve the best treatment from my partner, because that's what i would give in return. Be happy with yourself, be confident in yourself and hold out for the right guy that can handle your needs. Don't be ashamed of your Venus Scorpio Use it to your advantage lol. IP: Logged |
Hecate Knowflake Posts: 236 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted February 09, 2013 10:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Padre35: True..to a point..we don't like people falling at our feet, it seems to damn weak TBH.A Scorpio at relationships end: "I did everything for you" "I know, that is the problem" And have to add..it extends to friendships as well
Okay I understand all this but what do you do when the Venus Scorpio guy has control/jealousy issues? I ignored this side of him well he went I can involved with someone else..... IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted February 09, 2013 10:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hecate: Okay I understand all this but what do you do when the Venus Scorpio guy has control/jealousy issues? I ignored this side of him well he went I can involved with someone else.....
well, it's not good, sounds like mentally/emotionally he feels he is losing you and is saying that to ease the blow to his self esteem Sorry to say that of course, when I've said that in the past it was usually what was on my mind tbvh *Edited to note* Please do not take that to heart, like VS86, I'm really really bad at relationship stuff so it's a bit like listening to a poor person when it comes to investing IP: Logged | |