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Topic: JUSTIN BIEBER phenomenon: so much love and hate for this pisces!- a look at his chart
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virgolotus Moderator Posts: 1337 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 12, 2013 11:37 AM
^Maybe because his MC is in Virgo.. makes him come off as feminine and stuffzI used to dislike him when he had his moppy hair and sang like a girl. But now he's pretty good looking. I went to his concert and wow... I saw his dreamy Pisces come out with all the visuals he uses. It was pretty amazing :0 IP: Logged |
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posted February 12, 2013 11:37 AM
^ He has a crazy strong relationship with his mother so he could be a cancerIP: Logged |
virgolotus Moderator Posts: 1337 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 12, 2013 11:40 AM
But yeah when I saw Scorpio Asc conj Pluto... it doesn't make sense. He looks Aqua-ish... or just airy.IP: Logged |
its_aqua Knowflake Posts: 836 From: Mars Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 12, 2013 11:42 AM
I'm pretty sure the hour is correct, yeah he has a really strong relationship with his mother.I think he's good looking, maybe not the typical scorpio rising, but afterall he's too young. IP: Logged |
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posted February 12, 2013 11:42 AM
^^ I think he's a gem rising. It fits him, he's really mischievous too. Scorpio is very disciplined, he seems to lack that. IP: Logged |
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posted February 12, 2013 11:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Nope,he is a late scorpio ascendant,but it looks kinda similar except that libra moon,I wouldnt really mind swapping my chart for his though,so many girls and fame,Im a Leo MC afterall
i want to swap charts with wilmer valderama. look at that vulture going in when women are vulnerable. IP: Logged |
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posted February 12, 2013 11:44 AM
^ HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH whats the story lmaooo. Eva is like way ahead of his league. Look at him seizing that opportunity IP: Logged |
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posted February 12, 2013 11:49 AM
http://www.celebitchy.com/261001/eva_longoria_wilmer_valderrama_are_totally_together_cute_or_gross_couple/ IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 2759 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 12, 2013 11:49 AM
oh LOL i find him so appalling that I couldn't even imagine he was scorpio rising IP: Logged |
its_aqua Knowflake Posts: 836 From: Mars Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 12, 2013 11:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: ^^ I think he's a gem rising. It fits him, he's really mischievous too. Scorpio is very disciplined, he seems to lack that.
Well I think that he must be disciplined after all, since all these live shows require hard work and many rehearsals you know? But the hour is definitely correct
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anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5445 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 12, 2013 12:00 PM
His scorpio ascendant is in libra duad,maybe thats where that look comes from.Pluto conj. his asc from his 12th house could be another possibility,but if that is the case then Peregrine should have also looked like him. IP: Logged |
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posted February 12, 2013 12:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by its_aqua: Well I think that he must be disciplined after all, since all these live shows require hard work and many rehearsals you know?But the hour is definitely correct
I guess with that idea my job and school is a lot of discipline too. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 1458 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2013 12:22 PM
True, he doesn't look like a brooding Scorpio. Though the hairstyle in the pic posted is totally scorpionic.I am open to a different rising sign for him. IP: Logged |
lovehate122 Knowflake Posts: 508 From: Ireland Registered: Apr 2012
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posted February 12, 2013 12:33 PM
I thought he was a libra riser . I was convinced he was a Libra rising .IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6250 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 12, 2013 12:45 PM
My younger bro is Pisces,with Scorp rising,he is cute too. Sweet. It's Pisces thing. (+ Virgo Moon)IP: Logged |
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posted February 12, 2013 12:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Pluto conj. his asc from his 12th house could be another possibility,but if that is the case then Peregrine should have also looked like him.
well i don't have my original face! i definitely had his haircut when i was 4. maybe i'll post that. maybe before 17 i coulda looked like em. i don't remember. i just know not after that coz i have a pic of me at that age in the living room and i look v v diff. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 10976 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 12, 2013 01:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by its_aqua: But the hour is definitely correct
Right, the time is well-known, I once saw a video where a group of girls actually yelled his birthday complete with birth time, and I remembered it was near midnight. I know almost nothing about how the ASC affects physical appearances, but Bieber has Scorpio ASC mannerisms IMO. He's reserved and focused in interviews. Look at the difference between him and (relatively spastic) Ashton Kutcher: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XjiPITNAUA IP: Logged |
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posted February 12, 2013 08:16 PM
^yeah he barely got a word in. i think he has a somewhat punchable face so must be y grown men dislike him. my brother listens to him and does not find him lame. i do not know any cool teens though as of late. all pop music listeners.IP: Logged |
piscesfishgoddess Knowflake Posts: 169 From: Australia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted February 13, 2013 02:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by its_aqua: Okay, I don't really like his music, but I do believe his a phenomenon, becoming so succesful at such a young age, having sold so many singles all over the world etc etcSo many things have been said about Justin Bieber, I thought it'd be interesting to start a thread here with his natal chart and your opinions guys. I found his birth time through some fan pages so it probably is correct. [b]Sun trine Jupiter: this aspect shows luck and success, and JB is the living proof that Sun-Jupiter aspects bring success and luck Sun conjunct Saturn: this aspects most imes shows problems with the father or absence of the father. Again JB's chart is a proof as according to Wikipedia "His parents were never married, but maintain a close friendship and common goals regarding their son's personal and professional life. Mallette raised her son with the help of her mother Diane, and stepfather, Bruce." Hmm what else? Do you think that some of his placements-aspects show his singing career?[/B]
I personally think that he sold his soul to Satan. That would explain why people like his really lame music and boyish *charms*. He is like the cute 3rd grader, which is cool and all....you know, when you are in GRADE SCHOOL!!?! Sheesh, when did women become such pedophiles? Not saying any here are, just, if you are over 14 and like justine beaver, you may want to check your pedo meter. lol. Also, I wouldnt really call it a phenomenon. Smiley, cheesy, girly little boys who dance around like puppets have always had power over naive mindless zombie young tots. It is what they are programmed to like after all. I like Alpha males. Not Alpa eating puppies. It takes a brave woman to go after Strong Alpha Men, not fantisize after a little boy who they will never get to IP: Logged |
its_aqua Knowflake Posts: 836 From: Mars Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 13, 2013 03:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: I guess with that idea my job and school is a lot of discipline too.
Of course Kerosene! Having school and work requires a lot of discipline. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6212 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 13, 2013 06:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by piscesfishgoddess: It takes a brave woman to go after Strong Alpha Men, not fantisize after a little boy who they will never get to
Really? I'd have thought it was cowardly women who wanted--needed!--a man to be their daddy to take care of them and protect them from the big bad world (not all the different from a pimp, really, save he'd likely--though not certainly--consider you exclusively his property) rather than putting on their big girl panties and learning to stand on their own feet. In any case, it strikes me as braver to be with a pretty boy or even just by one's self (as she'd probably have to learn to stand on her own feet and take care of herself like a grown up) than it would be to hook up to some chest beating gorilla to crush the spiders for you while you wilt in horror and get wet watching him exercise power you're too scared to exercise for yourself. OTOH, a lot of so-called "alpha males" are just scared little boys in grown up bodies trying to compensate for their own failures and insecurities by being loud & bullying so that maybe it IS braver (though certainly not wiser) to hook up with one of those losers... quote: Originally posted by piscesfishgoddess: I personally think that he sold his soul to Satan
And btw...perhaps one of the best archetypes of the alpha male is Satan so maybe you should have him hook you up with your dream guy.
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posted February 13, 2013 06:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by its_aqua: Of course Kerosene! Having school and work requires a lot of discipline.
Everyone has to work, even fashion models have some discipline. When I think of scorpios I know they very extreme with their discipline. Always eating right working out, never drinking or smoking. Biber just sits around and smokes weed and probably gets drunk. Performing a few times a month does not really impress me. Also if someone is naturally talented its a breeze for them IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6212 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 13, 2013 06:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: When I think of scorpios I know they very extreme with their discipline. Always eating right working out, never drinking or smoking
My mom is a Scorp and she's an alcoholic who loves her Virginia Slims. But before she had me she was a model and though I consider what she put up with demeaning I have to grudgingly admit she was mentally tough in her own way to have endured it to live her dream of being a model, and that did include a very strict diet (though I suspect she smoked in part to help her not eat). She COULD be extremely disciplined, but she normally was only when it stood to gain her something in the near future. IP: Logged |
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posted February 13, 2013 06:19 PM
I would have to say a performer like Beyonce with a scorpio is very disciplined woman. Also my step who's a scorpio gets up at 5 every morning and does yoga and jogs for half an hour. Scorpios that are lazy are probably have squares with jupiter. Also influenced by venus Venus square jupiter etc Lazy and pluto do not go well together.IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6212 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 13, 2013 07:34 PM
My mom is a negative Scorpio as described here: http://sylviasky.hubpages.com/hub/How-Scorpio-Makes-Enemies-Reckless-Vengeful-Fixated-Insecure I have to add that she refused to do housework, a source of drama as she'd make me do it but then tell Dad that she slaved in the house and he'd tell her that she worked me like Cinderella and then she'd glare at me as if she thought I "told on her" to Dad. But perhaps it was just her love of hostile drama, or maybe she felt housework was beneath her (she was arrogant, which her Leo ascendent only encouraged). IP: Logged |