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Topic: Neptune in the 7th/ Venus conj Neptune - what's the recipe for happiness?
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andstuff Knowflake Posts: 1237 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 02:13 AM
So I've been wondering if there is a possibility for people with these placements to be happy at all. It is SO difficult to compromise if those Neptunian glands are not tickled Chuck away every single nice person, its boring boring boring! Screw everyday earthly, sane, normal romance, who wants it anyway? Then someone like a friend or a mother gives a warning that "you'll end up missing out on every good option life offers you", whereas it's still unclear what's good about those options.... This has been the scenario that I've known Does being happy necessarily entail settling for this mediocrity? Or does rejecting it mean being unhappy by the side of some loser or other we can't leave owing to their alleged inner beauty and because we're just _moved_ to pieces (or should one say to Pisces)? ESP when everyone else says "what the hell have you obtained through him you can't get elsewhere?" Your stories and experiences are massively appreciated
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peregrine Knowflake Posts: 998 From: Her Majesty's Young Offender Institution Registered: Apr 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 02:47 AM
what's so bad about it. i have venus trine neptune. higher form of love.IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 1237 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 03:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by peregrine: what's so bad about it. i have venus trine neptune. higher form of love.
Trine and sextile are good I've got the sextile But I've for Neptune in the 7th, which is similar to the conjunction. It's like when you can't be objective, over-idealise people who dont deserve it, have unrealistic expectations etc etc IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 1237 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 03:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by peregrine: what's so bad about it. i have venus trine neptune. higher form of love.
Trine and sextile are good I've got the sextile But I've for Neptune in the 7th, which is similar to the conjunction. It's like when you can't be objective, over-idealise people who dont deserve it, have unrealistic expectations etc etc IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 595 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 03:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by peregrine: what's so bad about it. i have venus trine neptune. higher form of love.
Duh! Not that great for me. But then my venus also squares NN. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 595 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 03:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff: So I've been wondering if there is a possibility for people with these placements to be happy at all. It is SO difficult to compromise if those Neptunian glands are not tickled Chuck away every single nice person, its boring boring boring! Screw everyday earthly, sane, normal romance, who wants it anyway? Then someone like a friend or a mother gives a warning that "you'll end up missing out on every good option life offers you", whereas it's still unclear what's good about those options.... This has been the scenario that I've known Does being happy necessarily entail settling for this mediocrity? Or does rejecting it mean being unhappy by the side of some loser or other we can't leave owing to their alleged inner beauty and because we're just _moved_ to pieces (or should one say to Pisces)? ESP when everyone else says "what the hell have you obtained through him you can't get elsewhere?" Your stories and experiences are massively appreciated
Can relate totally You are not alone. LOL IP: Logged |
12muddy Newflake Posts: 24 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted February 15, 2013 03:19 AM
Venus conj Neptune, Uranus here. I guess in order to be happy I have to know what I need and where to get it from. I may sound odd to others, but hey, we are different and we have different priorities and values systems. I take what I need from romantic relationships. Don’t need to analyse whether that person and I can make a “solid future” or not. A relationship consists of two people who find what they need in each other. Once I don’t get what I need anymore, I move on. Don’t like when people tell me I have to stay because he is nice/stable/etc... . I want a person who’s addicted to me, who can get me addicted to him. I don’t see the point of having a “stable” relationship when the sparks, the excitement are gone. To me being happy means having my needs fulfilled. It doesn’t mean living in boredom with a person I’m not passionate about. I don’t compromise when it means that I have to put away my ideals. I live quite happily this way, hehe =)
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andstuff Knowflake Posts: 1237 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 04:06 AM
@Jessica: oh my god, my Venus is also square nodes @muddy: lucky you. It's cool to have Uranus there to do the reasoning IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 595 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 04:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff: @Jessica: oh my god, my Venus is also square nodes
When I read your post, I thought of Venus Sq NN, because I feel exactly how you feel, my Venus is in the 7th house, relationships are really very important to me but not with anyone and it's really crushing at times when you get propositions from guys with whom you don't feel the pull and you end up feeling horrible about yourself cause everything would been just perfect had you felt the connection, the link.Then you start thinking, am I too picky? am I just being difficult? and you try to make it work and well it's pathetic since you know deep in your heart that when there is no pull there's no glue and our venus needs glue! haha! What other aspects does your venus make? IP: Logged |
12muddy Newflake Posts: 24 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted February 15, 2013 04:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff:
It is SO difficult to compromise if those Neptunian glands are not tickled Chuck away every single nice person, its boring boring boring! Screw everyday earthly, sane, normal romance, who wants it anyway? Then someone like a friend or a mother gives a warning that "you'll end up missing out on every good option life offers you", whereas it's still unclear what's good about those options.... This has been the scenario that I've knownDoes being happy necessarily entail settling for this mediocrity? Or does rejecting it mean being unhappy by the side of some loser or other we can't leave owing to their alleged inner beauty and because we're just _moved_ to pieces (or should one say to Pisces)? ESP when everyone else says "what the hell have you obtained through him you can't get elsewhere?"
andstuff, you already have all the reasoning figured out too. And it seems like you are also living the way you want. Isn't that your very own recipe for happiness? What's bothering you ? IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 1237 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 04:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: andstuff, you already have all the reasoning figured out too. And it seems like you are also living the way you want. Isn't that your very own recipe for happiness?What's bothering you ?
Hm I was really in love a while ago and well it didn't end well. So now I spend a lot of time being scared of not finding a person who would make me feel the same. And pretty much every male that displays attention gets me frustrated because I know it's just another wrong person and no one seems right @Jessica: sextile Neptune, trine Pluto, loosely square Saturn, trine Asc, conj Mars and Psyche, square moon IP: Logged |
sharpei Knowflake Posts: 197 From: london Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 15, 2013 05:20 AM
no man will make you feel the same as another man- that does not mean you will never feel amazing things for every man that comes into your life look at elizabeth taylor she always held she had two great loves, michael Todd, and richard burton- she would not say im sure she felt the same about them but they were beautiful in their own way. i have neptune conjunct sun both in capricorn both in 7th house- i dont know what this means though. i am incredibly dreamy and tend to put men on a pedastal - i find being a capricorn a real challenge as ive a fire moon which makes my emotions at times explosive and gemini rising which i guess makes me more curious and less self contained than the average capricorn- i feel lie capricorn is trying to control and rein in all these dissonant notes in my chart. i am always fascinated by girls who can forgo the chemistry or ''it'' factor like one friend married this guy who she said she had no real chemistry with but he was secure, she said they found it really easy to communicate and had similar values and this was what mattered to her- i dont know - i dont judge and in a way i wish i could but if i dont feel fireworks everytime i touch someone i find it hard to get attached- i need to be addicted to someone i like it when a mans eyes just make me MELT - like a man with a strong animal stare. i only really got into astrology originally because i could not understand how i could feel so intensely about someone and just, nothing made sense- i needed to read something that helped me make sense of it all. i mean i could just look at a picture of his and feel my heart explode- he would look at me and oh my god the world made sense- it felt like my entire life was building up to that one moment meeting him. no man has ever looked at me in quite the same way before or since- no man has wanted me quite so intensely- i mean men have wanted me sure but not like that... im terrified of feeling like that again though- i could not work, concentrate, couldnt eat, i actually became clinically underweight, would break out in rashes for no reason, collapse in the loo at work crying- wake up crying go to sleep crying- basically my life fell apart because of him and 4 years later im only sort of putting it back together. i dont regret it for a moment though IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 595 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 05:25 AM
^^ my venus-mercury conjunction trines neptune, inconjunct mars,loosely squares uranus,conjucnt saturn,sextile pluto and quintile MC.IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 1237 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 05:25 AM
@sharpei: at least yours doesn't send you weird love letters, sneak around your blog, visit you in your dreams several nights in a row when he's apparently in trouble and god knows whatand you haven't held him, he hasn't written you love songs, so well I happen to have material things and facts to hang onto. he made me learn what it's like to be idealised and worshipped, I changed my style to become the person he wanted me to look like. And seriously very few guys can love like that. Most guys who idealise the girl become servile saps only good enough to kick IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 595 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 05:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by sharpei: no man will make you feel the same as another man- that does not mean you will never feel amazing things for every man that comes into your life look at elizabeth taylor she always held she had two great loves, michael Todd, and richard burton- she would not say im sure she felt the same about them but they were beautiful in their own way. i have neptune conjunct sun both in capricorn both in 7th house- i dont know what this means though. i am incredibly dreamy and tend to put men on a pedastal - i find being a capricorn a real challenge as ive a fire moon which makes my emotions at times explosive and gemini rising which i guess makes me more curious and less self contained than the average capricorn- i feel lie capricorn is trying to control and rein in all these dissonant notes in my chart. i am always fascinated by girls who can forgo the chemistry or ''it'' factor like one friend married this guy who she said she had no real chemistry with but he was secure, she said they found it really easy to communicate and had similar values and this was what mattered to her- i dont know - i dont judge and in a way i wish i could but if i dont feel fireworks everytime i touch someone i find it hard to get attached- i need to be addicted to someone i like it when a mans eyes just make me MELT - like a man with a strong animal stare. i only really got into astrology originally because i could not understand how i could feel so intensely about someone and just, nothing made sense- i needed to read something that helped me make sense of it all. i mean i could just look at a picture of his and feel my heart explode- he would look at me and oh my god the world made sense- it felt like my entire life was building up to that one moment meeting him. no man has ever looked at me in quite the same way before or since- no man has wanted me quite so intensely- i mean men have wanted me sure but not like that... im terrified of feeling like that again though- i could not work, concentrate, couldnt eat, i actually became clinically underweight, would break out in rashes for no reason, collapse in the loo at work crying- wake up crying go to sleep crying- basically my life fell apart because of him and 4 years later im only sort of putting it back together. i dont regret it for a moment though
do you have pluto aspects sharpei? IP: Logged |
sharpei Knowflake Posts: 197 From: london Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 15, 2013 05:36 AM
lol andstuff- it is not a competition and just because we have VAGUELY similar charts does not mean we are similar or our lives will be similar- even similar placements and aspects can manifest very differently depending on degree etc. i once knew a girl born a few hours away from me and we were soooo different- she is a single mother, hates men, was an alcoholic (im near teetotal). i guess i just feel it is all karma for me- whatever i suffer is either paying off a karmic debt or to learn a lesson so it is fine. IP: Logged |
sharpei Knowflake Posts: 197 From: london Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 15, 2013 05:37 AM
umm not really jessica http://s1276.beta.photobucket.com/?fromLegacy=true here is my chart some pluto aspects but not an insane amount i dont think IP: Logged |
12muddy Newflake Posts: 24 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted February 15, 2013 05:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by sharpei: no man will make you feel the same as another man- that does not mean you will never feel amazing things for every man that comes into your life
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andstuff Knowflake Posts: 1237 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 05:42 AM
@sharpei: it's not about a competition. It's about competence and competence in this case is relative, I'm never gonna believe anyone is qualified to know if anyone is able to offer me the amount and kind of beauty that I need. Just like I don't profess to know what's good for others.Take Jane Birkin - she still has Serge written all over her despite being married to others afterwards. IP: Logged |
12muddy Newflake Posts: 24 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted February 15, 2013 05:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff: Hm I was really in love a while ago and well it didn't end well. So now I spend a lot of time being scared of not finding a person who would make me feel the same. And pretty much every male that displays attention gets me frustrated because I know it's just another wrong person and no one seems right
I was mad for someone once. I wrote him poems, I painted so many portraits of him... I was obsessed with him. Then we broke up. And I realized that it didn’t matter that we were in love, didn’t matter how much we shared, the fact still remained that we weren’t together anymore. It was wonderful while it lasted. Holding onto memories and comparing other men with him would only hurt my chances of finding happiness again. Wish you all the best.
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12muddy Newflake Posts: 24 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted February 15, 2013 05:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff: @sharpei: it's not about a competition. It's about competence and competence in this case is relative, I'm never gonna believe anyone is qualified to know if anyone is able to offer me the amount and kind of beauty that I need. Just like I don't profess to know what's good for others.Take Jane Birkin - she still has Serge written all over her despite being married to others afterwards.
lol i posted without reading this first and really, scratch watever I said up there. If it is about competency then you may just have to wait for the one who has what it takes =) IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 1237 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 06:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy:
I was mad for someone once. I wrote him poems, I painted so many portraits of him... I was obsessed with him. Then we broke up. And I realized that it didn’t matter that we were in love, didn’t matter how much we shared, the fact still remained that we weren’t together anymore. It was wonderful while it lasted. Holding onto memories and comparing other men with him would only hurt my chances of finding happiness again. Wish you all the best.
John Fowles put it wonderfully, its impossible to live pretending second rate is first rate. So yeah I don't think one can be happy knowing something is in fact second rate. This is actually what my lover is trying to do at the moment. Then he ends up sending me weird messages there's top notch and there's whatever falls below top notch. Knowing a certain liaison is not top notch makes pleasure and happiness impossible. Where am I wrong? IP: Logged |
sharpei Knowflake Posts: 197 From: london Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 15, 2013 06:05 AM
well its just i dont believe that everything is in a hierachy from best to worst.its like i like chocolate and i like icecream- overall i prefer chocolate but if its hot i prefer ice cream if it is cold ill eat a sticky toffee pudding (hey i did grow up in england ) i just think that kind of thinking is unhelpful... yet i do it myself :P i just cannot conceive of feeling more- i dont even want to- because even if there is a man out there more suited to me or whatever i feel so much loyalty to this one even though we no longer speak i just dont want ''better'' i want different.
i dunno i guess i was saving all my love for one person- like there is noone else i love- i have no love for my family, dont like having close friends, no other man managed to get that close and press my buttons like he did. i dont want to waste my love and very few are worthy. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 595 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 06:08 AM
That cause you don't have pluto messing up with ya IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 1237 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 15, 2013 06:08 AM
Fresh beefsteaks from Argentina vs some frozen sh1t at a low budget supermarket is a more accurate comparison than chocolate vs ice creamIP: Logged |