posted February 21, 2013 11:35 AM            

Interestingly, these things you mentioned, got my attention as well. But somehow they didn´t seem "satisfying" to me, or not enough. But maybe I need to readjust my thoughts about certain astrological things, simple as that. ,

I want to mention though that his Neptune, his chartruler, is exactly conjunct my Venus/Mars-mp.

And his Pluto is exactly square my Sun/Moon-mp, as my Sun/Moon-mp is conjunct my Antivertex and opposite asteroid EROS (all on 21 Cap-Cancer), and his natal Pluto on 21 Libra seems to play into this.

"Your Asc ruler, Jupiter at 11 Pisces, is almost exactly opposite his Mars at 11 Virgo."
I saw that, but somehow, well I understand how the ASC-ruler can be a "point of identification", but have never really pegged it as being the source of physical attraction.
Though if it was conjunct the angle itself... I guess i need to think about that.

"You'd be able to feel his male vibrant, passionate energy."
Definitely.
Well, my attraction to him came into play (or obvious to myself), just AFTER I noticed him paying so much unusual attention to me. Though now I simply can`t switch it off again.

But it seems to only be "on" for me in that electrical sense, if he is in physical proximity. It is not the dreamy, longing stuff that my Neptunian character is so used to, but the moment he steps across some invisible line, my whole being reacts. Which could very well have to do with my ASC, being some sort of "physical antenna".

"Also, I was thinking maybe Sun conjunct Sun could part of this too. "
Hmm, never really thought of that. ACtually I thought Sun/Sun is a bit boring.

HOwever, I can see how that might play out if there were other more exciting connections at play as well.

"when we feel truly ‘alive’."
Yes, that is definitely true.
I feel very much "myself" when he is near. Like I am somehow more myself than at other times.

"ctually, now I’m curious as to what other people have experienced with Sun/Sun in synastry."
Those that I have seen had other strong things going on as well.

My parents have a Sun-Sun-square and my Mum`s Sun opposes Dad`s Moon. Plus her Venus conjunct his ASC, and their 5th house rulers are conjunct and their 8th house rulers are conjunct.

Antonio BAnderas and Melanie Griffith also have Sun-Sun-conjunction, but her MOon is opposite this. And of course they have that triple conjunction of Venus-Mars-Pluto. lol
I think Eros is in it as well.

posted February 21, 2013 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Yeah, I could but think you've already answered your own question. Your loop is very Leo, Sag, Scorpio over and over again. Add in a dash of Aries/Mars and Mercury/Virgo/Gem for Mars in the 5th house, and Mercury in the 7th. With soooo much in late Scorpio, it wouldn't be a surprise if you attracted a partner with personal planets there in late Scorp.

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Seeing as you already grasp the personality type showing in your pattern, I'll talk about style.

Leo on the 5th indicates that in the initial courtship phase is approached by your with a playful, enthusiastic, romantic attitude. You appreciate someone that can make you feel like the most special person in the room, and you return the favor ardently when someone impresses you. You don't fall in love half-way. Love is a BIG DEAL for you.

The Scorpio on the 7th house, with Pluto and Jupiter, shows that you may spend a good deal of time thinking about the legal and morel implications of marriage, and that you take it seriously. It’s an all or nothing bond for you. You want a deep psychological/emotional bond with you’re partner. Honesty is very important here too. You can’t stand it if you feel a partner is withholding things from you. Trust and confidentiality are very high in your relationship priorities. Before making an official commitment you may quietly observe a potential marriage partner to assess if they are worth of your trust. Once you've decided that they are for real, though, you'll be fully committed.

With Sag on the 8th, in your private bond with your partner, you appreciate someone who is ethical, but who can also laugh about life with you. You like to share private jokes with your loved one, to share your ideas about what gives life meaning for you, and to look forward to a happy future together with you‘re loved one. This is how you feel close to others. You bond though keeping hope alive and having a sense of humor. With Jupiter in Scorpio ruling this house, the need for serious dedication, and emotional openness form your partner is evident here too.

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Lotis, you're VERY generous! Thank you so very much.

posted February 22, 2013 11:56 AM            

"You are caught in the crossfire.
He is used to this energy because he already has it in his natal, but you are not"

True. But while I can easily see the personal or soulattraction and fascination and also the karmic implications with this, it is not really all that indicative of physical chemistry; at least not from my side - astrologically speaking.
While the 7th house ruler is of course extremely important, I have never seen it really trigger this kind of sexual or erotic sparks, more warmth, affections and the feeling of "natural partnering".

"Tight Saturn/Sun square in synastry is extremely magnetising, in the beginning. "
Yes, I seem to have a liking for the harsh aspects of Saturn to Sun or even Moon.
But again, while I understand the karmic magnetism, there is nothing sexual about it. It happens more on a personality level.

posted February 22, 2013 04:24 PM            

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Originally posted by inaworldofsong:
So I read in a different thread that looking where the ruler of the 5/7/8H was could indicate more about your soulmate/ideal partner/style of lovin'.

Mine goes in a loop:

5H cusp Leo -> Sagittarius Sun on the 8H cusp
8H cusp Sagittarius -> Scorpio Jupiter in 7H
7H in Scorpio -> Scorpio Pluto in 7H or Leo Mars in 5H

What I'm getting is that my ideal mate better be a dynamite Leo/Scorpio/Sagittarius combo!

Anyone have more information about this? Or a similar loop?

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5H Cusp Aries --> Mars in 29 Cancer in the 8th, trine Pluto, sq. Merc, opp. Uranus... trust me, you have NO IDEA what kind of weirdo stuff I deal with from this placement! Forget the idea of 'speed dating' or 'casual fling'... I am all about intensity and this often leads to serious romantic issues, especially obsessive relationships. Also just explains, more flat-out, BDSM penchant. [Sorry for the faint of heart lol]

8H Cusp in Cancer --> Moon in Virgo in the 9th, trine Neptune-Uranus. Shows that love is pain, I take love really seriously but get hurt easily. I feel like my mom and I had a very sad relationship growing up... 8H = others' resources, she always gave me a lot but it never made me feel loved. But speaking about partners, not sure how else this would play into it. Might show that I really need to have my heart 'fixed' by my lover, also shows my submissive side is there beyond the Mars-Pluto/Scorpio stuff from the Virgo influence.

posted February 22, 2013 06:21 PM            

" get what you mean about a slight feeling of dissatisfaction."
somehow it relieves me to know that it is not only me.

"(Although, there is your Sun conjunct his Moon, and his Mars trine your Venus, only these are a little wider then I usually prefer)"
The Sun-Moon-conjunction I view as very valid, not so sure about the Venus-Mars link. This one is just so wide for my taste. Well, it might give a subtle resonance still, but not a full blown attraction, I don`t think.
However it is kinda nice to have his Mars and upiter trine and also his Chiron trine my natally so challenged Venus. Nice for a change.

"… So I thought, well the attraction exists so there must be SOME explanation."
Yes, though sometimes I think, that maybe I somehow react to his attention to me - not sure it is really a strong attraction, but I am just not used to feel like I am in the "spotlight", if you know what I mean-. And that that attention somehow triggers some sort of attraction in me (well, too many "somes" in that sentence. lol), made possible by the strong personal resonance on a Sun/Moon/DESC or rather 7th house ruler - level.

But then again, as I said if he is near, it just feels so visceral. I can feel him or whatever he radiates in my body and soul, and it both intrigues and totally scares me.

" However, I think you’re right in that it’s one of those indications that needs more ‘support’ behind it."
Yes.

(My fuss-pot Virgo Saturn likes veerrry tight orbs).
Well no Virgo Saturn here, but I like veery tight orbs as well. I still view orbs of up to 3 degrees as strong, but I am really getting excited about one degree orbs. lol

"I’ve got an interesting little side note to the whole Sun/Sun thing… I have noticed an odd sort of fascination/attraction to guys with Aries Suns that square my own Sun (From my 5th house)."
I am not surprised. 5th house placement might turn into an attraction-scenario, what could have been just annoying.
Also a Cap Sun is very well able to deal with the tenstion of a square. It is not like you guys really want to have it easy, is it?

"It feels like an intense pull towards something that’s tense (difficult), and yet it attracts me anyway. Their identity is so contradictory to my own, that the make me feel more myself in contrast."
Yes, I definitely can see that.

Actually it is similiar with this guy. Though we have Sun cojunct Sun and there are some things we have in common, we are SO different in expressing our identities. While I am a bit "mystical", evasive, prone to fantasies and somehow float a bit and am not always really ON this earth, he is so earthbound, physical and instinctual.
Maybe it is the fact that the rulers of our Sag-stelliums are in exact opposition of each other, mine in Pisces - his in Virgo (it all comes back to that one, doesn´t it? ).

Apart from that he is also so extrovert, very different from myself. I am much more introvert and calmer than him.

" This is what I was thinking about when I rambled on about Sun/Sun. "

Yes defintiely. That GLOW I can attest to.

"I tend to think of mid-points as ‘supportive’ of attraction that already shows in synastry."
Yes, me, too.

Though interestingly I can resonate so much with my tightest midpoint pictures.

Moon=Mercury/Pluto and Venus=Sun/Saturn

"especially house ruler stuff, they can be so telling."
Funnily his Venus is exactly conjunct my Moon/Venus-mp. And of course Moon and Venus rule my 8th and 5th house. lol

"Pluto square Sun/Moon midpoint and Antivertex, seems sort of compulsive, intense, and maybe even a little disturbing to me. Like there’s a pull but it has a jagged edge.
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Yes, it is intense, disturbing and at the same time so playful and carefree. It is odd.

Well, Pluto is definitely a relationship-planet for him; it is the ruler of his 8th house and placed in his 7th house and squaring his intercepted 7th house ruler Venus in 11th house.
Puzzling.

"And there’s definitely something to Eros, and I think Cupido too. I’ve had some interesting transit/synastry experiences with both."
Do you want to share

Personally I find them to be important as well. Well, in the composite Cupido and Amor are both EXACTLY conjunct the NN, all three being on 20 Libra.

posted February 23, 2013 06:35 AM            

However I did also check for semisquares and sesisquares, antiscia and quindeciles.

One description of quindeciles are: "this aspect corresponds to obsession, compulsion, a cause célèbre in the life that just does not go away."
http://newwayastrology.tumblr.com/post/5482581273/the-awesome-quindecile-a-lot-of-astrologers

Noel Tyl, Basil Fearrington and other astrologers believe that this aspect belongs into the league of the other dynamic aspects in terms of intensity.

I am not completely sold on this yet, but I was checking nevertheless.

I also checked the composite and progressed synastry. Maybe it is just a momentary thing (for 5 years or so. lol)

natal synastry
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houseplacements:
my Eros in his 5th
my Mars and ASC in his 8th - while I take notice of 8th house placements, I always think it is the person with the 8th house that relates to it mostly (and yes there are some that say they don´t and it is the planet`s person, but in all these cases there were other things in the synastry explaining the "switch").

However I was wondering, since Mars is a sexual planet as well, maybe I get my good deal of feeling this placement in a very Martian way as well?

aspects
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his Pluto semisquares my Mars (in his 8th house)
his Pluto semisquares my ASC exactly
his Venus on the antiscion of my Mars

his ASC quindecile my Pluto
his Pluto quindecile my IC

as for houseruler aspects-
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his 5th house ruler:
conjunct my Sun

his 8th house ruler:semisquare my Mars
semisquare my ASC
quindecile my IC
square my Vertex, Eros and Sun/Moon-mp exact

his traditional 8th house ruler:
opposite my chartruler Jupiter
squares my nodal axis

EROS-aspects
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his EROS conjuncts my name in his chart exactly, and both are conjunct my chartruler Jupiter, CERES and squaring my ASC

my EROS squares his Pluto exact

COMPOSITE
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Jupiter in 5th house conjunct the 5th house cusp;
there is a mutual reception between the 5th and 11th house, and the rulers are widely opposite each other.

(c-Jupiter and c-5th house cusp fall onto my SOUTH NODE and conjunct my DESC by 3 degrees; interestingly c-Jupiter and c-5th house cusp is also EXACTLY conjunct the DESC of our first meeting chart and opposing his natal DESC-ruler.
When we met, the ASC of that moment, was sort of pointing at his natal Mercury conjunct my Neptune and NN exact. lol)

Pluto in 8th house

as for aspects; there are two major tight aspects, that got my attention, and yes, they ARE difficult. lol

1. c-Venus square c-Pluto in 8th with one degree orb

the reason for that square is that both of us have a waxing Venus-Pluto-square natally; interestngly in both cases it has to do with relationships natally.

for him, Venus, ruler of 7th and 2nd house, in 11th house, squares Pluto, ruler of 8th house in 7th house

For me, Venus, ruler of 5th and 10th house, in 1st house, squares Pluto, ruler of 11th and 12th house in 10th house.

Well, for him it has to do more with relationships in every kind of sense; for me there is a strong emphasis on society I guess.

Both of us have the ruler of 5th house squaring the ruler of 11th house natally, and in the composite the ruler of 5th house is in 11th house, and the ruler of 11th house is in 5th house, opposing each other widely (6-7 degrees).

Anyway the Venus-Pluto-square in composite does not relate strongly to his chart, and not pleasantly to mine.
In fact c-Venus is EXACTLY opposite my natal Saturn (which immediately makes a lot of sense, seeing that I seem VERY hesitant, despite any kind of attraction I might feel).
But it is not as easy as to say I flat out refuse that c-Venus.
I think since Saturn rules my 2nd house and is placed in my 8th house, things are more complicated.

2. Moon squares Mars with 1 degree

This one is interesting in terms of our natal charts as well

c-Moon is on my Antivertex and Sun/Moon-mp and of course opposes my Vertex (the very one that was squared by his 8th house ruler Pluto)

for him c-Moon is conjunct his Venus and c-Mars is conjunct his Pluto

In fact that composite Moon-Mars-square overlays his natal Venus-Pluto-square.

Might not say much about MY attraction, but certainly looks like some scary **** . lol

BTW interestingly Venus is conjunct PROSERPINA, so c-PROSERPINA squares c-Pluto as well, and in fact we have a DW of Pluto-Proserpina trine and sextile in synastry

3. a third possible pattern

c-Moon and c-Venus are widely conjunct (6 degrees)

c-Mars and c- Pluto are widely conjunct (8 degrees).

NOW I certainly wouldn`t really count these wide orbs as strong or maybe not even pay much attention, but in this case, the midpoint of the Mars-Pluto-conjunction falls smack onto the NN, and the midpoint of Moon-Venus squares the nodal axis.
And on top of the NN we have AMOR and CUPIDO sitting.

Not really sure how to interprete that, but it looks like a pattern.

That NN-amor-Cupido-Mars-Pluto falls into his 7th house, with the Moon-Venus falling into his 11th house

the NN-Amor-Cupido-Mars-Pluto falls into my 10th house and the Moon-Venus falls into my 2nd house

well, leaving composites aside, I turn to the progressed synastry

°his pr Venus squares my pr Mars: 1°33 s

the aspect is separating, so fading away, but it was in play about 2 years ago I think

° my pr Venu squares his pr Uranus: 0°55a
especially intersting since Venus rules my 5th hosue natally.

Well, this one would at least explain the amount of electricity and "shock" I feel around him

Interstingly when we met, his pr Venus was trine my pr and natal Uranus. lol
As a matter of fact my natal Uranus is currently applying to a square to his pr Sun in Aquarius.

° his pr DESC conjuncts my Mars 0°18 a
very close aspect, and after that will conjunct my natal ASC

for asteroids:
his pr Cupido conjuncts my pr ASC with half a degree

his Venus opposes my pr Eros but this is still over 2 degrees from being exact

I even checked for quindecile:

Right now my pr Venus is quindecile his Jupiter exactly

In a bit my pr Venus will apply to a quindecile to his natal Mars (2°06a)

plus
my pr Moon quindeciles his natal Pluto (1.56 a)

Well, minor as all of these things may be (and probably I am overreaching here. lol), what I noticed is how often his Pluto was being listed, and how often my Mars was. Interestin.

What do you think?

posted February 24, 2013 07:53 AM            

my 8th house is a big house. Cancer is on the cusp, but it includes a of Leo as well. The 9th house cusp is at 26 Leo.

I know that we are being taught to only use the ruler of the cusp, but just lately I`ve been thinking, if such a large amount of Leo is within my 8th house, would the ruler of Leo, Sun, have a minor influence on me in terms of 8th house-symbolism as well?

posted February 24, 2013 09:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
I think yes. I always check the ruler of intercepted signs as a sub-influence on a house, so I guess it makes sense to do so when a large amount of a particular sign is in a house. To me, the cusp sign ruler always dominates no matter what, the cusp sign ruler is the 'major' ruler... But intercepted rulers, and 'large amount of sign' rulers, can be used as 'minor' rulers to determine more info about a situation.

I tend to do this instinctively and have for a while, only I've never really put a label on it before

For sure it could play into an 8th house connection.

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posted February 24, 2013 09:10 AM            

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"Also, I was thinking maybe Sun conjunct Sun could part of this too. "

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Hmm, never really thought of that. ACtually I thought Sun/Sun is a bit boring.

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pSun conjunct nSun, for me, has always generated quite a bit of heat.

posted February 24, 2013 09:17 AM            

They are often also part of a midpoint picture.
In the case with that guy, his VEnus is exactly semisquare my Jupiter on the one hand and my Neptune-NN-conjunction on the other hand, resulting in his Venus being conjunct my Jupiter/Neptune and Jupiter/NN-mp. Maybe not really an attraction factor, but surely makes for some good feelings.

"For quindeciles I've got Jupiter/Neptune, and Vertex/Chiron in this aspect"
I have Vertex/Venus as an exact quindecile.

"And I do seem to be obsessive, and 'repeatedly focused' on such things."
That fits with the description of the quindecile quite well.

The Vertex/Chiron seems to be about how the turning points in my life seem to involve some sort of 'ouch' feeling. Even if the ultimate outcome is positive, there's usually an 'ouch' component in the process of a change or transition."
Yes, I have that as well.
Though maybe for me this is related to the hammer of thor I have in my chart.

Chiron exactly squares Vertex, and both are sesisquare to Mars. Triple ouch! (and them being in 4th, 8th and 12th house, probably quadruple ouch at least ).

" That they can be felt, is about as far as I’ve gotten."
I am going to keep an eye on them.

"Quintiles are a favorite of mine too. I've got a tight Venus/Pluto quintile that I really relate to."
Yes, I can see that in what you write.

"journeys we need to take in life. I've noticed that quintiles really are about active self-expression."
That is interesting ,and I agree on a theoretical level.

However, I am struggling to see where my Moon-Mars-quintile comes out, and it is REALLY tight. Only 0°04

" I suddenly realized how much a part of my personality my Mercury/Moon/Node quintile pattern really was."
I tend to pay a lot of attention to patterns.

actually I recently have developed a fondness for harmonic charts because of that.

posted February 24, 2013 11:11 AM            

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The Sun is similar in that it’s connected with our physical vitality, only the Sun certainly more romantic then Mars. The Sun is the sense of joy and glory that pours forth from our heart center, when we feel truly ‘alive’. It’s where we burst forth with radiant energy and pride in who we really are. The Sun’s energy is golden, and flows straight through our core. When you have a Sun/Sun aspect with somebody it usually follows that you feel more energized and alive when you are around that person (or drained if the aspect is a square). It’s a feeling of being ‘full’ if that makes sense. Maybe a Sun/Sun aspect alone is not enough to generate a full on physical attraction in the sexual sense, but I think it’d certain be supportive of one when combined with other factors in attraction. Actually, now I’m curious as to what other people have experienced with Sun/Sun in synastry. At the very least the Sun/Sun aspect would keep the energy between you high. It’s like a direct flow from one heart center to another.

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Agree with this, speaking of Sun/Sun in progressed synastry.

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It's magnetic. Through the years it has been an almost sequential progression as my Sun moves through the degrees.

Years ago a young Cancer developed an unexplained crush on me. I couldn't make sense of it because the attraction didn't show in any of my models at the time. Turns out my pSun @ 9 Cancer was conjunct their nSun @ 9 Cancer. I've noticed this progressive pattern through the years as my pSun have gone from 16 to 20 degrees Cancer, July 9, 10, 11, 13th Cancers materializing and flirting with me heavily. The most appealing ones have Venus in Gemini (my Sun), or Venus in Virgo (my Asc).

The other Cancers I run into, for now, are early July Cancers; July 2, 3, 4th. My pVenus @ 8 Cancer is in applying conjunction to these dates. The most smitten have been the Venus in Gemini (my Sun) ones.

OTOH, with my as nSun, one of most intense encounters in my recent past was with a person whose pSun was on top of my nSun in Gemini. I was very attracted. Beside this one, I've had this aspect with a childhood BF, a current colleague, the salesman who I purchased a vehicle. With the Geminis & Taurus whose pSun conjunct my nSun, ultimately I feel betrayed or disappointed by them. Ironically, the car salesman was the most honest, though not 100%.

posted February 24, 2013 11:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
pSun conjunct nSun, for me, has always generated quite a bit of heat.

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Is either Sun placed in 5th or 8th house or ruling one of those?

posted February 24, 2013 11:34 AM            

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Is either Sun placed in 5th or 8th house or ruling one of those?

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posted February 24, 2013 11:44 AM            

It`s just from the beginning of learning astrology I have read that Sun conjunct Sun on its own is too boring, cause people are too similiar.
Somehow it got stuck.

So I find it very interesting that you mention it generated a bit of heat for you, Nine.

Of course maybe that has to do with the progressed placement as well.

Checking for progressions at the end of march (however our progressions have always been quite... lacking):

°my pr Moon (8th ruler) on 5 Cancer trine his pr Venus on 6 Pisces

° my pr Mercury on 23 Aquarius (DESC-ruler) squares his natal Uranus on 23 Scorpio

° my pr Venus (5th ruler) on 24 Aquarius squares his pr Uranus on 24 Scorpio

° my pr Venus trne his pr Vertex on 27 Libra

° my pr ASC on 9 Cap trine his pr Jupiter on 9 Virgo

° my pr ASC on 8 Cap trine his natal Mars on 11 Virgo

well nothing so exciting so far I guess

° his pr Sun on 00 Aquarius square my natal Uranus on 1 Scorpio

° his pr Moon (5th ruler) on 23 Pisces square my natal Mercury (7th rulr) on 25 Sag

° his pr Moon square my Sun on 26 Sag

° his pr Mercury (7th and 4th ruler) on 1 Aquarius square my natal URanus on 1 Scorpio

° his pr Venus on 6 Pisces fizzling out of squaring my Mars on 5 Sag

° his pr Venus on 6 Pisces square my natal ASC on 7 Sag

° his pr MC on 1 Aquarius squares my natal Uranus on 1 Scorpio

° his pr DESC on 4.59 Sag conjuncts my natal Mars on 5 Sag

° his pr DESC conjunct my natal ASC on 7 Sag

posted February 24, 2013 11:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
nSun conjunct MC, ruler of 12th house.

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Interesting. So it seems to work independently as "heat-generator".

posted February 24, 2013 12:08 PM            

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Interesting. So it seems to work independently as "heat-generator".

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It would seem that way, though of course there are usually other aspects involved.

posted February 25, 2013 04:04 AM            

I noticed that male Aqua`s and Sag`s, or those with their Moon in these signs, seem to pay a lot of attention to me.

As for myself, since my DESC-ruler is conjunct Sun in Sag, I of course have a liking for the male centaurs. (not all of them of course).

Though, even though my 8th house ruler is in Aquarius, I can´t say that I am going nuts over Aquarians. It is more a friendly vibe for me (I do think however that my Saturn in 8th house plays a role in that, maybe more so than moon in Aquarius).
Saturn is also conjunct pr DESC at the moment, or applying to it, and I guess this might emphasize my love of Saturnians even more (plus ruler of 5th house is in Cappy as well).

BTW Lotis, speaking about quintiles, I looked up the progressed synastry chart on positive astrology, and it turns out that HIS pr Venus is quintile my natal Sun: 1°07 applying.

I kind of like the interpretation; it is so sweet.

"There is something uniquely unusual about your relationship...The quintile bestows a creativity which stirs the curiosity. You both find each other fascinating, for different, but very closely related reasons....When they connect by the quintile aspect, they tend to be poised in a dance of sublime complexity whose underlying principles are attraction and intrigue."

Sounds like fun

in the natal synastry:
his Moon quintiles my Jupiter exact

his Vertex quintiles my Saturn with only 2 minutes of arc
his Vertex also quintiles my Neptune.
Since Saturn and Neptune are biquintile in my own chart - there is a quintile pattern of my Saturn-Neptune with his Vertex. Interesting

his Juno quintile my Pluto exact

in the composite:
Sun quintile Pluto
Moon loosely quintile Uranus: 1:30
Venus biquintile Jupiter exact (under one degree I mean)
Venus biquintile Saturn exact
Jupiter quintile Saturn exact

so there is a pattern of Venus-Saturn-Jupiter

posted February 25, 2013 06:25 AM            

His Chiron exactly quincunx your Neptune and Pluto (a TRUE cinderella *yod*!) ~ and let's not forget the trine to your Venus (in allowed orb here)!

His Neptune exactly trine your Chiron and quincunx your Saturn (a Mystical Triangle wich involves a verrry nice cinderella angle again!)

See, *TWO* exact Chiron/Neptune *linkages* (trine/quincunx -> long term lovers/friends!?) which in magi they call a *paired linkage* and equals literally FOUR cinderella linkages!

I was so astonished to see this and I know you know *something* about magi so I had to remind you..

posted February 25, 2013 07:16 AM            

yes, I noticed from Magi perspective that the geometry is not bad.

I wasn´t sure if his Chiron wasn`t maybe too wide for a trine with my Venus though.

Helio, yes helio, I vaguely remember something.
Let me check:

his Mars on 5 Leo quinkunx his Venus on 6 Pisces
My Pluto is on 7 Leo, so I think there is a Yod between his Mars and Venus and my Pluto.

in the helios there is additionally in the latitudes:

his Mars 1°47 N
his Neptune 1°23 N
his Chiron 1°33 S

my Venus 1°52 S
my Neptune 1°33 N

BTW what is a "true" Cinderella Yod?

About Neptune/Chiron: I noticed we have quite a few of these

geo:
his Chiron quinkunx my Neptune
his Neptune trine my Chiron

helio:
his Chiron quinkunx my Neptune (2°35)
his Neptune trine my Chiron (2°34)

his Chiron contralatitude my Neptune (0°00)

But I always figured these might be too generational (though maybe his Venus personalizes that generational aspect for us a bit).

posted February 25, 2013 07:50 AM            

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his Mars on 5 Leo quinkunx his Venus on 6 Pisces
My Pluto is on 7 Leo, so I think there is a Yod between his Mars and Venus and my Pluto.

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Libra-Pluto yess.. that's a sexual Yod indeed, and you could say that he has that with most of your age but we may not forget that there's an age-difference of 5 years.. so it's not something he automatically shares with his own age group (something wich makes it more *personal*)
Have you checked Juno also? The most sexual of all...

and let's also not forget that tightness of orb is verry important in their system, and when seeing that exact double Chiron/Neptune linkage... then a light goes on here.

And the Chiron/Venus is def. within orb (one planet up to 4 degr.)

True cinderella -> both interaspects (arms) make a cinderella angle Chiron/Pluto Chiron/Neptune.. *TIGHT*!