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Topic: 5th/7th/8th Houses - Cusps, Rulers, and Romance?
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inaworldofsong Knowflake Posts: 253 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 18, 2013 10:47 PM
So I read in a different thread that looking where the ruler of the 5/7/8H was could indicate more about your soulmate/ideal partner/style of lovin'.Mine goes in a loop: 5H cusp Leo -> Sagittarius Sun on the 8H cusp 8H cusp Sagittarius -> Scorpio Jupiter in 7H 7H in Scorpio -> Scorpio Pluto in 7H or Leo Mars in 5H What I'm getting is that my ideal mate better be a dynamite Leo/Scorpio/Sagittarius combo! Anyone have more information about this? Or a similar loop? IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23 Knowflake Posts: 596 From: virginia, usa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 18, 2013 11:12 PM
Let's see... (Nothing to add...just giving my own information...)5th house: Gemini..Sagittarius Mercury in 11th 7th house: Cancer.....Scorpio Moon in 9th 8th house: Virgo...Sagittarius Mercury in 11th
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 19, 2013 05:30 AM
Just listing my rulers too, I have never figured out how it works for me, I guess mine too is in a loop somehow.5H -Taurus - Venus in 7H Leo -(Jupiter in taurus) 7H - Cancer - Moon in 6H cancer 8H - Leo - Sun in 7H Leo stellium in 7th house- Mercury, Saturn,Venus and Sun in Leo Am attracted to tall guys, serious types especially the capricornian types, I love capricorn guys They have a special kind of sense of humor that I just love, witty and sarcastic gets my attention really fast, mental stimulation plays a crucial role for me. If a guy doesn't stimulate me intellectually am gone. But I've noticed scorpio guys are attracted to me,although I have a stellium in Leo, am not attracted to Leo guys,I find them vain ( sorry). I hate when guys only talk about themselves. I much prefer to befriend a leo girl than a leo guy! I also like guys who love animals, they get my attention too I LOVE dogs. So I don't know exactly how my 5th house works in the romance department...Am thinking may be it's because my 7th house cancer is opposite my asc capricorn that's why I'm so drawn to capricorns or may be because my asc ruler saturn is in my 7th house. IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 2164 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 19, 2013 06:00 AM
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posted February 19, 2013 06:03 AM
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posted February 19, 2013 06:22 AM
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posted February 19, 2013 06:25 AM
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 19, 2013 06:41 AM
@Lotis whiteLooking forward to read it Yeah you are right,I find a common ground with capricorn guys,it's not difficult for me to talk to them, or to understand them, but having lots of fire in my chart am a little bit more impatient and more impulsive when I like someone . I come across as the super serious girl when in reality am not.The thing about capricorn guys is you really get their attention if you've succeeded at making them crack a smile or even better,make them burst out laughing.I find it SO endearing...and they can listen to you talk and talk for hours, they are so patient I simply can't imagine ever getting married to someone who doesn't have SOME capricorn influence in his chart! EDIT: I need time to read it Lotis, am sure I'll come back with questions IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 2164 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 19, 2013 06:57 AM
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25755 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 19, 2013 11:24 AM
Hi Lotiswhite,maybe you can help me with a certain aspect of a connection/ synastry, that baffles me. I canīt get to the bottom of it, and it drives me nuts! The thing is there doesnīt seem to be very strong chemistry-synastry in it, yet I feel a very strong pull. The familiarity and affinity I get (his Sun/Moon/MC conjunct my 7th house ruler); however what I do not get is the physical magnetism *I* feel. I shouldnīt be magnetized to him like this. I am not really talking about a fluffy, comforting warm kind of attraction; but pure kundalini-ripe electricity, to the point that i can literally feel like everything "shifts" when he is in my proximity. He slips under my defenses as if they are non existant, and it feels like a shock to my whole system (I am not really prone to feel or allow "animal magnetism", but this pull, it is always there, and it leaves me dazed and shaken). However I donīt see the astrological reason for this, or let`s put it this way, what I see, might explain a smooth nice pull, but not that kind of electricity.
My 5th house ruler Venus is pretty much left alone, except for the trine to his Mars-Jupiter. Which is nice, donīt get me wrong, but it is atrine and it is wide. Does not really explain the degree of my attraction to him. my 8th house ruler Moon has a wide trine to his Pluto. But again, a trine and pretty wide at 4 degrees. my Vertex, you could say, is oposite his Venus, but again it is wide. my Juno - well obviously his ASC falls into the sign of my Juno, but no strong aspects to either Juno. The only thing that remotely seems fascinating about that synastry -from my point of view- is the fact that his BML is exactly opposite my BML. But is that enough to explain it? Or how would you explain it? There must be something I am missing here! (funnily enough though, his Age harmonic Mars is conjunct my Age harmonic Vertex on my natal venus exactly this year - but the spark was there before that, so I donīt think this is it.) My chart his chart
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posted February 19, 2013 11:41 AM
5th house ruler - scorpio/sagittarius cuspNeptune in sag in the 5th 7th house ruler - capricorn 8th house ruler - aquarius I love scorpios. All of my ex's have been scorpios. My childs father is a scorp/sag cusp.
Not really into capricorn men. They are dull and too unemotional to me. I do attract alot of female capricorn friends though. Aquarius are cool as friends but i find them to be too unemotionally detached when it comes to romance. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25755 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 19, 2013 11:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by Venusian Moon: 5th house ruler - scorpio/sagittarius cuspNeptune in sag in the 5th 7th house ruler - capricorn 8th house ruler - aquarius I love scorpios. All of my ex's have been scorpios. My childs father is a scorp/sag cusp.
Not really into capricorn men. They are dull and too unemotional to me. I do attract alot of female capricorn friends though. Aquarius are cool as friends but i find them to be too unemotionally detached when it comes to romance.
it often also depends on your personal planets and their aspects. I have Taurus on the cusp of 5th house and Cancer on the cups of 8th house. While these signs DO describe what I need to feel intimately connected and how I probably express my needs, I could not be more disinterested in Taurus and Cancer guys. I think the reason for that is that I have this big stellium in Sag and Moon in Aqua. These placements just can`t do anything with TAurus or Cancer-energy. My Venu is in Capricorn however, and that would work, but this is only true for planets at around 6 Taurus or Cancer, as these would directly trigger my Venus. But ultimately I prefer Sag and Cap energy. (5th house ruler is in Cap, Saturn in 8th house - my Venus can do something with that, and for some reason my Sag and Aqua planets are not as adverse to it as to Taurus and Cancer energy) IP: Logged |
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posted February 19, 2013 12:17 PM
My sun is gemini Moon in taurus Venus in taurus Mars libraIm intense and i need intensity. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25755 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 19, 2013 01:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Venusian Moon: My sun is gemini Moon in taurus Venus in taurus Mars libraIm intense and i need intensity.
Yes, I can see that. Esp. with Moon and Venus, both in Taurus (Personally I view them as paramount in relationships, because we usually have romantic relationships for emotional reasons; of course there are always exceptions though). Your Moon and Venus probably cannot do much with Aquarius-energy (as you said, too detached and aloof, in your experience possibly at least). Your Sun and Mars of course could get along with Aquarius-energy, but somehow, this sounds more like friendship-material to me; and even though these are airy signs,t here is a difference between an individualistic Aquarius and a relationshiporiented Libra. Capricorn could have potentially be a pleasant thing, as it is in the same element as your Moon and Venus. But Taurus is a very personal sign, which Capricorn is not. Besides the attraction from Taurus to Scorpio is often quite strong and overshadowing other things. Not only they are opposite, but they resonate with Venus-Pluto, or 2nd-8th house. Attraction to Sags could be due to the 5th house connection. But I dare say that pure Sags without Scorpio influence might not be to your taste. BTW is the ruler of your 5th house in Scorpio, or is the cusp of your 5th house in scorpio? Often it does make a difference to see where the actual ruler falls, too. For example, if you have Scorpio on the cusp of your 5th house, you could look up your Pluto or Mars. However you already stated your preference for Scorpios, and that makes sense in terms of your 5th hous. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 4526 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted February 19, 2013 02:01 PM
5th house in Cancer ( Moon in Gemini in 3th trine Venus in Libra) 7th house in Virgo ( Mercury in 7th) 8th house in Libra ( Venus in 8th house)I have Virgo on my 7th, but I am not attracted to Virgos at all. Mercury, however, is conjunct at 0 degree Pluto in my 7th house, so i am hugely attracted to Scorpios ( Pluto in 7th, Merc/Pluto exact conj). It's intensified by the fact that Venus rules my 8th house and Venus in Libra is located in the 8th house. Scorpios, all the way. The more Scorpio in their chart, the better. My 8th house is shared between Libra and Scorpio, so someone's Scorpio planets fall in my 8th. yum. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 19, 2013 02:36 PM
5H Capricorn - Capricorn Saturn in 5H 7H Pisces - Capricorn Neptune in 5H 8H Aries - Taurus Mars in 9HCapricorn>Pisces>Aries>Taurus? ------------------ Do you have some chocolate? IP: Logged |
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posted February 19, 2013 03:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Yes, I can see that. Esp. with Moon and Venus, both in Taurus (Personally I view them as paramount in relationships, because we usually have romantic relationships for emotional reasons; of course there are always exceptions though).Your Moon and Venus probably cannot do much with Aquarius-energy (as you said, too detached and aloof, in your experience possibly at least). Your Sun and Mars of course could get along with Aquarius-energy, but somehow, this sounds more like friendship-material to me; and even though these are airy signs,t here is a difference between an individualistic Aquarius and a relationshiporiented Libra. Capricorn could have potentially be a pleasant thing, as it is in the same element as your Moon and Venus. But Taurus is a very personal sign, which Capricorn is not. Besides the attraction from Taurus to Scorpio is often quite strong and overshadowing other things. Not only they are opposite, but they resonate with Venus-Pluto, or 2nd-8th house. Attraction to Sags could be due to the 5th house connection. But I dare say that pure Sags without Scorpio influence might not be to your taste. BTW is the ruler of your 5th house in Scorpio, or is the cusp of your 5th house in scorpio? Often it does make a difference to see where the actual ruler falls, too. For example, if you have Scorpio on the cusp of your 5th house, you could look up your Pluto or Mars. However you already stated your preference for Scorpios, and that makes sense in terms of your 5th hous.
So right about the sags without scorpio influence! My mars and pluto are in libra.
Forgot to mention the scorpios i attract usually have libra influences like libra moon/venus IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 2164 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 19, 2013 07:59 PM
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ail221 Moderator Posts: 6802 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 19, 2013 08:13 PM
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 4526 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted February 19, 2013 09:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Hi Lotiswhite,maybe you can help me with a certain aspect of a connection/ synastry, that baffles me. I canīt get to the bottom of it, and it drives me nuts! The thing is there doesnīt seem to be very strong chemistry-synastry in it, yet I feel a very strong pull. The familiarity and affinity I get (his Sun/Moon/MC conjunct my 7th house ruler); however what I do not get is the physical magnetism *I* feel. I shouldnīt be magnetized to him like this. I am not really talking about a fluffy, comforting warm kind of attraction; but pure kundalini-ripe electricity, to the point that i can literally feel like everything "shifts" when he is in my proximity. He slips under my defenses as if they are non existant, and it feels like a shock to my whole system (I am not really prone to feel or allow "animal magnetism", but this pull, it is always there, and it leaves me dazed and shaken). However I donīt see the astrological reason for this, or let`s put it this way, what I see, might explain a smooth nice pull, but not that kind of electricity. But is that enough to explain it? Or how would you explain it? There must be something I am missing here!
Your Sun and Mercury (your 7th house ruler) sits on top of his chart - his MC - conjuncting his Moon (his 5th house ruler) and Sun, and from that top position, you square his ASC/DC axis, his Vertex/ Antivertex axis and more importandly - his Saturn (ruler of his 12th house). You are caught in the crossfire. He is used to this energy because he already has it in his natal, but you are not, his internal energy has been channeled ( via his 12th house ruler) to you. Tight Saturn/Sun square in synastry is extremely magnetising, in the beginning. The Saturn needs the Sun's rays and glory desperately. The Saturn person will change its form and shape to match the Sun person's desires, will bend, twist, allure and seduce the Sun person. No rush. Once Saturn becomes assured that the Sun is sufficiently glued, dependant and bound to him, the gloomy Saturnian lessons begin...ugh! If you found yourself attracted to him, it means that at this point of your life - you need those lessons. It's called Karma. p.s. his Pluto - ruler of his 8th house, - also sqares at 0 degree your vertex/antivertex axis. double whammy vertex aspect.
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Nine Moderator Posts: 2579 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted February 19, 2013 11:12 PM
5th - Saturn in Virgo, 12th 7th - Neptune in Sagittarius 4th, Jupiter in Leo 11th 8th - Mars in Taurus, 8thhmmn, Very attracted to Virgos, and I think Cappys (sexually...I think). In RL, I like keeping the details of my LL to myself. tMoon in Virgo brings 'em to me. Attracted to Sagittarius, inspite of the current drama from a mid-aged clown. Or maybe I'm just nieve. Yes, I like someone with a bit of emotionality. Just not to baby-batch demanding. re: 8th house. Haven't seen this manifest in my life, but...Gosh, I collide with Taurus. Even the docile ones eventually get short with me. Often the ones who stand out have prominent Gemini. IP: Logged |
inaworldofsong Knowflake Posts: 253 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 20, 2013 12:52 AM
Man, Lotis! You're EXCELLENT!Also, I totally forgot about Juno until you mentioned it. Then when I looked it up I realized it joins my Pluto/Jupiter/Mercury 7H Scorpio stellium. Jupiter @ Scorpio 27* 40' Mercury @ Scorpio 27* 51' Pluto @ Scorpio 28* 18' Juno @ Scorpio 29* 34' Oh, Scorpio. What do I even do with you? (Psst, hey, Lotis? If you have enough time - and you obviously don't have to if you don't! - would you be able to interpret my 5/7/8 loop thing? You're really impressive and insightful at this, so I was wondering if you might see things more clearly than I can.) IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 2164 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 20, 2013 11:55 PM
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Lunae Knowflake Posts: 2251 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 21, 2013 09:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Hi Lotiswhite,maybe you can help me with a certain aspect of a connection/ synastry, that baffles me. I canīt get to the bottom of it, and it drives me nuts! The thing is there doesnīt seem to be very strong chemistry-synastry in it, yet I feel a very strong pull. The familiarity and affinity I get (his Sun/Moon/MC conjunct my 7th house ruler); however what I do not get is the physical magnetism *I* feel. I shouldnīt be magnetized to him like this. I am not really talking about a fluffy, comforting warm kind of attraction; but pure kundalini-ripe electricity, to the point that i can literally feel like everything "shifts" when he is in my proximity. He slips under my defenses as if they are non existant, and it feels like a shock to my whole system (I am not really prone to feel or allow "animal magnetism", but this pull, it is always there, and it leaves me dazed and shaken).
OHMYGOSH I can relate to this sooooo much! When I look at our chart at first glance, it really looks platonic. But really, I can totally relate to how you feel, ceridwen! I'm still a noob at chart rulers but I'll try to give it a shot: My Planets: 5th house libra- Libra Venus in 4th house 7th house Sagittarius- Virgo Jupiter in 3rd house 8th house Aquarius- Capricorn Uranus in 7th house Capricorn Juno in the 8th Libra Vertex in the 4th house His Planets: 5th house gemini- Pisces mercury in the 2nd house 7th house leo- Aries sun in the 2nd house 8th house Virgo- Pisces mercury in the 2nd house Libra Juno in the 8th Vertex is in 7h Virgo Commonplace connections: -I have an 8h Aquarius, his Uranus which is also his chart ruler is in 8h Aquarius. -my 7h ruler jupiter falls on his 7th house. -My 5h ruler Libra venus falls on his 8th house -His 8th house Libra juno falls on my 5th house. -My vertex conjuncts his Juno. Other connections: -His 7H ruler is in the opposite sign as my 5h ruler -His 5h and 8h ruler is in the opposite sign as my 7h ruler -My 7h covers a large part of Capricorn. His 5h ruler trines my Capricorn ruler saturn in the 8h -My chart ruler Sagittarius mercury (Gemini asc here) trines his 7h ruler Aries sun. -His chart ruler Capricorn Uranus sextiles my 5h Scorpio Sun -His ascendant falls on my 8h cusp -My ascendant falls on his 5th house cusp Significant Aspects: -My sun trine his moon -His moon trine my mars and pluto (which is conjunct to my sun) -his NN conjunct my sun -his venus weakly opposes my pluto -my mars is weakly opposite his venus -his venus trine my jupiter (5h ruler) and uranus (8h ruler) -his Taurus venus quincunx my Libra venus Are these potent enough for me to feel that kind of connection towards him? It seems that I am the one who is more attracted to him than he is to me. He sometimes gives away hints but I'm not sure if I'm misinterpreting it or not! IP: Logged | |