posted February 21, 2013 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by shybaby187:

This is true im currently involved with a Sag/scorp man now and he tends to hide his feelings for me it'll be a year now and i dnt know maybe its just me and my cancer/scorp self. However the man whom i had a child with is a virgo with a scorp moon and lord was that man very controlling, very possessive, a manipulati he played the victim. Not a bad guy but we just werent right for one another. He was very insecure and it drove me crazy. He was very distant i would have guest over and he would lock himself in the room after 4yrs i finally gave up

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I am that guy you left.. Not literally of course.

What I mean is that I understand why he did that. No disrespect, but the kind of attitude you show is what we are afraid of. You are simply not that into scorpio moons, and that will be something that scorpio moon intuitively feels. We are spunges. And thatīs why we lock ourselves up in our rooms for years.

Yes, I understand you pow, we do like to play the martyr, but itīs because we really hav been given the toughest moon (maybe pisces comes a close second) I belive that moo nin scorpio is the most vulnerable. We will do anything, ANYTHING to keep safe. We will unfortunately be very anti-social if we feel more vulnerable than you, wich is bound to happen..

May I ask, why did you bother with him for so long, if you warenīt planning on sticking around forever? Did you think he was going to change? No one ever really does, not really, I belive. Specially nota a fixed water moon.

posted February 21, 2013 07:02 PM            

So can you give me an example of obvious or obnoxious? See the beautiful thing about explaining things from my side is that I can mitigate my embarrassment. He was anything but polite. His lack of response was very obvious and HARSH based on what exactly I said to him. Normally I would categorize him as an A-hole. But I still 'feel' him.

That's why I'm so confused. I read people for a living an never ever have I met someone who's physical responses are so off mark from what I read from them emotionally.

So once you push someone away what do you expect them to do exactly? Right now I'm backing off

posted February 21, 2013 07:28 PM            

Thank you! Good luck with your guy. Sounds like you passed!

posted February 21, 2013 08:03 PM            

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Originally posted by CapSun8thHouseMarsScorp:
Hannarammaa

Thank you! Good luck with your guy. Sounds like you passed!

Guess it would be easier for me if he were around physically. Easier when you can spend time with someone

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I thought I did, but I don't understand why he's telling me to text him "if I want" now. Now he doesn't initiate conversation...

I had written out a huge reply to you and Rhia before earlier today. I was going to say you gave us your guy's house placement, rising, sun and venus sign, and we know he's a Scorpio moon. BUT. His Mars sign will tell us how he pursues things, so that would be helpful to know. If I missed it I apologize.

Rhia - Pisces men are hard to pin down. They can like you without wanting a relationship with you.

posted February 22, 2013 03:01 AM            

Edit: Itīs not always obnoxious, but it will seem really cruel.

For example, I am crushing on a guy in my class, and I donīt know if he really likes me or if he just kinda likes me. So instead of being upfront and talking to him, getting to know hi, I will start playing games and push him away, because Iīm insecure. For example, yesterday I saw him coming to class and he wanted to sit next to me, but I had put my books on the seat so that he couldnīt and I wouldnīt look at him.

Thatīs a test a way to protect myself. Scorpio moon is reluctant about letting others in. But I looked tense and nervous, wich shows that he invokes feelings in me, and there is a conflict inside me. Had I just looked uncomfortable, and avoiding, without the conflicting part - then that shows that Iīm really not into the guy. But if Iīm into him, I will always be at conflict.

With us scorpio moons, itīs all really subtile.

My situation is a bit different because Iīm the girl, so I expect the man to go through hell to get me. Yes, I am that sensitive, and I need to know that he really loves me, otherwise Iīd rather be alon.

But because in your situation youīre the lady, and nature isnīt having it (Most of the time) if the lady be the aggressor, so I suggest you back of a little bit, let him come to you. I think a scorpio moon guy will need a receptive woman who is very sensitive to his feelings and needs, but more stable in her mood, than he is. I suggest that you be yourself, and not change for him though. It never works. Just be yorself, and if he loves you he will take babysteps towards you. Donīt expect big leaps, just baby steps.

I think itīs time to move on if you feel hurt, confused and so on to the point where heīs not worth it. But as long as you think heīs worth it donīt give up. Scorpio moon love is NEVER easy, but to the right person itīs all worth it.

Thatīs all I can say.

posted February 23, 2013 05:27 AM            

What kind of guy would want a girl who plays crazy games like that? I'd say someone who likes the chase..or who's a bit of a masochist. So I'm not sure it's a good idea at all to test people like that. It gives a bad impression, and they can probably see how insecure you are and lose respect for such jer*ish behaviour.

I think if a guy (or gal) is treated like that by someone - even if they initially like the person - it will be a turn-off. I don't know anyone who likes mean/inconsiderate behaviour (unless they have some mental problem or are all about the game). And I can't imagine what kind of relationship that would be or how it would even come to a point where you can actually call it a "relationship".

Just my opinion.

I think if you like someone enough to try and make something out of it, be nice to the person in question but not clingy or possessive or stalkerish, etc. If you're a girl especially, just be charming to him and show signs of interest without actually making a bold move. If it's mutual, the guy will most probably *do* something about it.

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To the OP,

He probably likes you, yes.
But now he's busy - that's 1.
And he seems to be "feeling" you out - that's 2.

With Scorp or Cap ascendant.. they *will* be cautious.

Just keep being friendly and pay attention to him but don't smother him or act like he's the man of your life.

posted February 23, 2013 06:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Ręve:
Little Doe,

What kind of guy would want a girl who plays crazy games like that? I'd say someone who likes the chase..or who's a bit of a masochist. So I'm not sure it's a good idea at all to test people like that. It gives a bad impression, and they can probably see how insecure you are and lose respect for such jer*ish behaviour.

I think if a guy (or gal) is treated like that by someone - even if they initially like the person - it will be a turn-off. I don't know anyone who likes mean/inconsiderate behaviour (unless they have some mental problem or are all about the game). And I can't imagine what kind of relationship that would be or how it would even come to a point where you can actually call it a "relationship".

Just my opinion.

I think if you like someone enough to try and make something out of it, be nice to the person in question but not clingy or possessive or stalkerish, etc. If you're a girl especially, just be charming to him and show signs of interest without actually making a bold move. If it's mutual, the guy will most probably *do* something about it.

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I understand where youīre coming from, and on a rational level, I completely agree.
I donīt know if this applies to all scorpio moons, but Iīm really irrational, when Iīm really in love.

But I think alot of it has to do with my childhood, and how I was raised. Itīs of the topic, but I suspect that people with alot of scorpio in their chart might have scars from the past, and that will make them reluctant to letting others in.

Iīm not a typical scorpio moon, because I have so meny other stuff in scorpio, venus, ascendant, saturn and pluto but still I think itīs not my fault that I am so vulnerable. The right man will know how to handle me, I belive. He doesnīt have to be a masochist necessarely, but yes - he will probably like the challange. In fact I think thatīs in human nature. We are drawn to the relationships that challenge us, and make us grow. I think that if a man sees through my games he will not take it personally. Instead he will understand me and act accordingly. That is - if he loves me. And that applies to all people. No oneīs perfect. My kind of games / Scorpio moon kind of games might seem cruel, but the man/woman who sees through the game can see the vulnerability and potential to be deeply loved by the scorpio moon eventually. And some people are attracted to that. In fact - I think most are!
However, if Iīm wrong, if indeed I īm just plain crazy, than I accept it, and will be ok with remaining alone. I always feel, and I think thatīs because of my scorpio moon, that Iīm never really alone. God is with me, and I belong with him.
But I belive in my heart that there is someoneout there for everyone, and people arenīt perfect. We make mistakes and lern together. We hurt eachother, but it brings us closer sometime, and we donīt want to be without the lesson, even if it hurts.

posted February 23, 2013 06:16 AM            

I think it all comes down to self-esteem and self-love.. if you unconditionally love yourself and accept yourself, it's easier to let others in and not be afraid. Because you know what you're worth, and no one can take that away from you.

But yes I do understand that it's difficult for Plutonian people to come to that point because it's so hard to trust people and we're so focused on security.

I do hope that with time, you'll learn to be more confident and open. It's all internal!

I used to have BPD traits also, when I was younger and would fall in love "stupidly". Drove me crazy, trust me! I would act irrational and destructive. I don't have a Scorp Moon but Moon sq Pluto.

posted February 23, 2013 06:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Ręve:
Oh why, thank you for clarifying!

I think it all comes down to self-esteem and self-love.. if you unconditionally love yourself and accept yourself, it's easier to let others in and not be afraid. Because you know what you're worth, and no one can take that away from you.

But yes I do understand that it's difficult for Plutonian people to come to that point because it's so hard to trust people and we're so focused on security.

I do hope that with time, you'll learn to be more confident and open. It's all internal!

I used to have BPD traits also, when I was younger and would fall in love "stupidly". Drove me crazy, trust me! I would act irrational and destructive. I don't have a Scorp Moon but Moon sq Pluto.

Anyway, all one needs is self-love, I'm pretty sure about that (and a good friend who can help you see your situation more clearly! haha).

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Exactly! Itīs all about self-love. Iīm not completely there yet, but Iīm working hard on it.