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its_aqua
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posted February 22, 2013 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay what in a natal chart would be responsible for suppresed feelings?
I get angry and dissapointed easily and then keep it all bottled up inside, and then when I'm alone I just want to cry, but sometimes I can't even cry because I feel so full of emotions inside but cant really express them.

And when I get sad with someone or something I really feel like I want to go away, dissapear (hoping that people will search for me), instead of trying to solve my problems.

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Jessica2407
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posted February 22, 2013 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moon-saturn
venus-saturn
sun-saturn
venus sq moon

May be?

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its_aqua
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posted February 22, 2013 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun conjunct Saturn

No Moon-Saturn, nor Venus-Saturn

And my Venus is sextile my Moon

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posted February 22, 2013 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
any moon-pluto aspects?

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its_aqua
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posted February 22, 2013 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just realised I have an almost exact quincunx of Moon-Pluto, how could that work?

I have Venus sq Pluto (exact)

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Jessica2407
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posted February 22, 2013 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I relate to how you described, I have moon sq pluto,pluto sextile venus.

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its_aqua
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posted February 22, 2013 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I relate to how you described, I have moon sq pluto,pluto sextile venus.

I have Sun in the 8th too, (I think it's not considered a good sun position)

Ugh, you see when things dont go the way I want to, I just want to dissapear make people wonder about me or just create some drama.

There are people who are cool, and discuss everything politely and conquer what they deserve
But I just can't. I'm too scared to say that I deserve this so instead I go passive and wait for things to happen or I create drama.

Ugh
I wonder if there are also any special transits right now

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posted February 22, 2013 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ well not that part

I meant about the emotional challenges...but I'm a drama free queen, I hate drama. I'm quite blunt in expressing my feelings, I don't beat around the bush, so I at times come across too harsh when it wasn't my intention at all, then I start second guessing myself not on what I said but on HOW I said it,and then I beat myself up so much because I would feel like I aggravated the situation. I also carry huge grudges, like forever, I don't forget.

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its_aqua
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posted February 22, 2013 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:
^^ well not that part

I meant about the emotional challenges...but I'm a drama free queen, I hate drama. I'm quite blunt in expressing my feelings, I don't beat around the bush, so I at times come across too harsh when it wasn't my intention at all, then I start second guessing myself not on what I said but on HOW I said it,and then I beat myself up so much because I would feel like I aggravated the situation. I also carry huge grudges, like forever, I don't forget.


hehe I carry grudges too.
I express my feelings bluntly when I'm not scared. But if I feel scared then I can't.

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posted February 22, 2013 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
scared of what if you don't mind me asking?

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its_aqua
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posted February 22, 2013 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:
scared of what if you don't mind me asking?

Ugh, I get very anxious at work. Actually deep down I'm a very competitive person. I want to be the best you know. I can't bare the feeling that someone else is considered better especially when it's not true.

So when I think that I'm not getting what I deserve in work, and someone else who is not really better, does. I'm scared to go and talk to the superiors like everyone else does and get what they want.

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posted February 22, 2013 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and what do you want?

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posted February 22, 2013 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for foxxyxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you seem like you take your emotions seriously and fear rejection that if expressed others won't take them as seriously as you? maybe maybe?

if thats true, only way to cure it is to take the leap and express them to whoever is making you feel all crazy inside lol you'll find most people can relate and will want to get closer to you because of it. friendship is formed by one of relating after allllllllll

its just getting there is the hard part cause its so unknown to u

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posted February 22, 2013 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by foxxyxo:
you seem like you take your emotions seriously and fear rejection that if expressed others won't take them as seriously as you? maybe maybe?

if thats true, only way to cure it is to take the leap and express them to whoever is making you feel all crazy inside lol you'll find most people can relate and will want to get closer to you because of it. friendship is formed by one of relating after allllllllll

its just getting there is the hard part cause its so unknown to u


Yeah, I dread rejection. You can't imagine how important it is for me to be accepted by others. If someone is not in a good mood I always fear that they have a problem with me.

And at the same time im selfish, and don't want to show to people that the things they've done have made me feel sad.

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posted February 22, 2013 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:
and what do you want?

Right now I work as a bartender to raise some money for my master degree.
I'm good at my job, because I've been doing it for a long time.
Everyone goes to the supervisor and asks about the days they want to work but I'm scared to talk, so I get stuck with the worst days.
Things like that happen to me all the time.

I really want to not got back to work again and lock my facebook and phone, so that nobody hears from me again. Then they might think that something happened to me and try to find me and care about me.

Ugh, my ex is sort of a supervisor there and it's so difficult for me since we were only f-buddies, but I had feelings for him. It's so difficult because I now have to go and ask him for things that have to do with the work and it gets all so confusing.

I feel like he rejected me once as a girl and now im getting rejected at work too. Ugh

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posted February 22, 2013 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm, okay now I understand.

I think you may have self esteem issues. Locking your facebook profile or your phone sounds like you want people to show you that they care about you, that you actually mean something to them, but at the same time you may think ''what if they don't?'' I think it's more to do with 'the self', building up confidence. You think you are very good at your job, but that doesn't have to have any bearing to when you have to speak out and talk to your supervisor to ask what you want. See, your colleagues don't have to be better or worst than you in their jobs to speak out, it's all about confidence. I've seen people who literally suck at their jobs but who manage to pull through in a meeting where the top dogs are in attendance! So chin up and work on that confidence girl!

Confidence is the most sexy thing in a girl.

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posted February 22, 2013 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fear of rejection is worse than rejection itself. It's the same for every fear you have. I think you just have to go and talk to him, tell him what you want. It will make you feel a lot better. You can never get what you want if you don't ask for it.

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posted February 22, 2013 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh, guys I don't know how to build my confidence, I think Sun in the 8th CONJUNCT Saturn is giving me a hard time.

I feel like If I go and ask him, why I'm not working on Saturday since you told me you wanted me on Saturdays, he will tell me something that I won't be able to react to.

I even thought of telling him that I'm thinking to quit you now sort of "blackmail" him if he doesn't do me the favour i want.

Ugh,sometimes I really wished that something bad happened to me so that he would care

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posted February 22, 2013 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you post your chart its_aqua?

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its_aqua
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posted February 22, 2013 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jupitersgirl:
Can you post your chart its_aqua?

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posted February 22, 2013 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that Saturn conjunct Sun is limiting you from expressing yourself fearlessly but I've also noticed communication problems with cap mercuries. Capricorn mercuries that I've known never tell what they want or think directly. You said you wanted to lock your facebook and phone so that the people would be worried about you and care for you, I've noticed this way of acting (more or less) in other cap mercuries as well.They do not tell directly what they want, they want people to care for them and find out what they want. It may be due to the typical capricorn's fear of rejection.
Saturn conjunct sun can be quite challenging, especially about self-esteem issues. I have Saturn in the 5th house(I also have Sun conj. Uranus in the 5th), and it's the house of self-expression and creativity. When I was younger I used to paint but I never showed my paintings to anyone because I always thought that they were not good enough. After sometime some people saw them and really liked my paintings, wanted to have them etc. It was so hard for me to believe that they actually liked my paintings because Saturn was damaging my self esteem about creativity and self expression, but now I've overcome that because I saw that it was only a trick Saturn was playing on me.
You can do the same thing. Saturn is doing the same thing to your Sun, and your Sun is your character, ego.
Defeat your fears. You can start by going to your supervisor/ex and tell him what you want. Your Sun wants that, Saturn is just challenging you.

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posted February 22, 2013 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jupitersgirl:
I agree that Saturn conjunct Sun is limiting you from expressing yourself fearlessly but I've also noticed communication problems with cap mercuries. Capricorn mercuries that I've known never tell what they want or think directly. You said you wanted to lock your facebook and phone so that the people would be worried about you and care for you, I've noticed this way of acting (more or less) in other cap mercuries as well.They do not tell directly what they want, they want people to care for them and find out what they want. It may be due to the typical capricorn's fear of rejection.
Saturn conjunct sun can be quite challenging, especially about self-esteem issues. I have Saturn in the 5th house(I also have Sun conj. Uranus in the 5th), and it's the house of self-expression and creativity. When I was younger I used to paint but I never showed my paintings to anyone because I always thought that they were not good enough. After sometime some people saw them and really liked my paintings, wanted to have them etc. It was so hard for me to believe that they actually liked my paintings because Saturn was damaging my self esteem about creativity and self expression, but now I've overcome that because I saw that it was only a trick Saturn was playing on me.
You can do the same thing. Saturn is doing the same thing to your Sun, and your Sun is your character, ego.
Defeat your fears. You can start by going to your supervisor/ex and tell him what you want. Your Sun wants that, Saturn is just challenging you.

In addition I'm too proud, and I mean that if I go and confront him and if he tells me "well i don't think your good enough to work on saturday" then I will have to cope with that, and I won't be able to stand it.

Because then I will look like a fool, who nagged about the thing she wanted, but isn't good enough to get it, so she'll have to be okay with that.

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posted February 22, 2013 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its_aqua, it all depends on your attitude. You said that you are good at your job and I'm guessing that you are really really good at it because you have a tendency to underestimate yourself, as far as I've seen. If your supervisor/ex is a professional, why would he turn you down? I don't know what happened between you two but let's say he's holding a grudge against you and he turned you down because of that; it only shows his own weakness.
But you have to trust yourself and the way you work when you talk to him.

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posted February 22, 2013 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by its_aqua:
Ugh, guys I don't know how to build my confidence, I think Sun in the 8th CONJUNCT Saturn is giving me a hard time.

I feel like If I go and ask him, why I'm not working on Saturday since you told me you wanted me on Saturdays, he will tell me something that I won't be able to react to.

I even thought of telling him that I'm thinking to quit you now sort of "blackmail" him if he doesn't do me the favour i want.

Ugh,sometimes I really wished that something bad happened to me so that he would care


I think it's your Mars in the 12th. It's a detrimental placement for Mars, for this is the house of self-undoing, and isolation. This is why you want to run away and retreat when you are angry or hurt. Its similar to Mars in Pisces.
I have Mars in Leo in the 6th house. When I am angry at my boss or my pride was hurt, I go to him and tell him directly how I feel about it. I have said stuff like "How dare you" to "You can't scare me with those tacticts".

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posted February 22, 2013 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Orange, Mars in the 12th house damages the assertive qualities.

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