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posted February 22, 2013 09:27 PM            

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Saturn isn't about a lack of something, it's about where the individual needs to instill limits and create structure. Not where they may be limited, but the area of their life where limits may be necessary.

It seems some people are either under the impression (or giving the impression) that Saturn is about lack rather than a concentration of energy needing limits and structure.

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posted February 22, 2013 09:36 PM            

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cool. what about retrograde saturn in scorpio?

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posted February 22, 2013 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by northvirgo:
cool. what about retrograde saturn in scorpio?

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"Saturn in Scorpio retrograde can be very secretive and extremely intuitive."

From this site: http://www.astro-vision.org/audiocharts/monroe/03saturn/03saturn.html

Putting this and what I said above together, my only guess at the moment is that the individual may need to make sure they don't get carried away with their intuition (intuition in general), and that they don't keep secrets at their expense.

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posted February 22, 2013 10:04 PM            

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and what about when transit retro saturn conjuncts natal venus?

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posted February 22, 2013 10:06 PM            

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Originally posted by northvirgo:
and what about when transit retro saturn conjuncts natal venus?

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Which house and sign? (Scorpio? ...since you asked about Saturn Rx in Scorpio)

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posted February 22, 2013 10:08 PM            

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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Which house and sign? (Scorpio? ...since you asked about Saturn Rx in Scorpio)

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Yes, retrograde saturn conjunct natal venus in scorpio

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posted February 22, 2013 10:18 PM            

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Originally posted by northvirgo:
Yes, retrograde saturn conjunct natal venus in scorpio

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Not sure yet. I'll have to get back to you unless someone else steps in to temporarily take the reins.

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posted February 22, 2013 10:19 PM            

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ill wait, I cannot find much online.

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posted February 22, 2013 10:28 PM            

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I have saturn in aquarius, I read aquarius is suppose to be the mooltikona sign for saturn.

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posted February 22, 2013 11:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I have saturn in aquarius, I read aquarius is suppose to be the mooltikona sign for saturn.

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It's the traditional ruler, yes.

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posted February 22, 2013 11:32 PM            

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In Vedic astrology its suppose to be the strongest placement for saturn besides libra

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posted February 22, 2013 11:39 PM            

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Not Capricorn, too? It's been a while since I've read up on Vedic astrology.

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posted February 22, 2013 11:45 PM            

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According to vedic
Exaltation - 100% strength
Mooltrikon - 90% strength
Own Sign - 80% strength

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posted February 22, 2013 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
According to vedic
Exaltation - 100% strength
Mooltrikon - 90% strength
Own Sign - 80% strength

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Found a site that describes this a bit: http://en.allexperts.com/q/Astrology-2205/2009/5/Exalted-Vargottama-Mooltrikona.htm

but the site doesn't appear to explain the difference between Mooltrikon and Own Sign. The way Mooltrikon is described, it sounds like what you'd think Own Sign would be.

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posted February 23, 2013 12:01 AM            

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Yeah its is the same thing but think about it like this. Venus ruled by Taurus and Libra but venus in libra always gives better qualities for venus.

Mooltrikon is like the upgraded estate a planet owns

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posted February 23, 2013 12:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Yeah its is the same thing but think about it like this. Venus ruled by Taurus and Libra but venus in libra always gives better qualities for venus.

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Well, I've actually heard that it's not a matter of better qualities from one sign versus another, but that the planet rules one sign during the day, the other at night. Even that, though, feels too compartmentalized to me. Too left-brained. I think there's a greater flow to astrology than that. But, that's me.

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posted February 23, 2013 03:36 AM            

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In the 7th house, saturn gets directional strength in vedic astrology.

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posted February 23, 2013 10:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
In the 7th house, saturn gets directional strength in vedic astrology.

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Fair enough, but what does Saturn getting directional strength in the 7th house have to do with Venus having better qualities in Libra over Taurus? (if that's the connection you were making). The thread is about Saturn, and Venus in Libra vs. Taurus was brought up, but I'm not seeing your connection here.

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posted February 23, 2013 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Fair enough, but what does Saturn getting directional strength in the 7th house have to do with Venus having better qualities in Libra over Taurus? (if that's the connection you were making). The thread is about Saturn, and Venus in Libra vs. Taurus was brought up, but I'm not seeing your connection here.

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oh I was just putting a word about Saturn.

The natural 7th house Libra is ruled by Venus, wherein Saturn is exalted..According to Vedic, Saturn, Venus and Mercury are what they called 'Friends'. But the relationship of Saturn and Venus is special, they have an inherent connection between them.It is said that they have come to each other's rescue more than once and they usually watch over each other's back, of course according to Hindu mythology. Venus has two rashis, taurus and Libra, one represents 'bhoomi' ( earth) and 'vayu' (air). Saturn is not exalted in taurus because it has total control over air (Libra). There is also the possibility that Saturn is exalted in 'kumbh rasi', i.e aquarius since the latter is of 'vayu' element.

The overall character of Saturn coincides with that of Libra "tula', both are judicial in their dealings. Libra rules the west direction, that is the 7th house,wher Saturn achieves 'digbala' directional strength and becomes really powerful.

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posted February 23, 2013 09:50 PM            

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S-turn is great, and people need to step up to plate when they're challenged by his transits or natal placements. But then again he's like a butler or guardian or something to my Venus, so...

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